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    Fallout NV runs slow on my GX60

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by ayylmao, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. ayylmao

    ayylmao Notebook Consultant

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    GX60/GX70 owners, does the game run this bad for you or is it just me?

    I've got a little problem with my GX60. I honestly do not get what's wrong. I've got a A10-5750m and a freaking 8970m and the game runs like crap considering my specs. Powerplay is set to maximize performance. It's playable and I've been playing it on this GX60 for over 200 hours. I should be getting over 60 FPS and I should be able to max out the game, but my frames hover in the 30-45 region on medium settings and even drop to 20 when I stumble across fire in barrels or lots of action going on. I have the draw distance on characters, actors and whatever set to half-way. In furmark, I get 45-50 FPS at 1600x900 and 4x AA. I've installed NVSE and all those performance enhancing mods and still nothing. The game is utilizing the 8970m according to msi afterburner. For the record, the system is not overheating. With turbo fan on, it never gets over 60 on the GPU and CPU.

    Just today out of curiosity, I installed the game on my Medion laptop which has much weaker specs, GT 555m i5-2450m, and what shocked me most is that the game runs flawlessly and easily gets over 60 fps on HIGHER settings with nearly maxed out draw distance and it never drops below 50 fps. It runs so much better on it. Does the game hate AMD CPU's?

    The question is, how on earth is my msi getting such bad frame rates with NV? Is it that the gamebryo engine hates AMD cpus or are my drivers bad? I have the catalyst 15.6 drivers installed. Are those drivers bad or something? I'm getting big framerates in furmark but terrible framerates in new vegas. What the heck is wrong with it? Might be something wrong with the game, I dunno. Furmark points me towards that direction. Help would be strongly appreciated.
     
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    Well, when running the game, how is your CPU/GPU clock speeds and utilization? Fall out New Vegas is fairly old, and as far as I know it only needs a low level dual core CPU to run.

    There are indeed games where the CPU will definitely bottleneck you but it does sound like you might have a performance issue here. How well does it run in vanilla no mods at all?
     
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    I'm running it vanilla with no graphic mods at all. Only the performance enhancing ones like the stutter remover and a few weapon fix mods. I have these exact mods on the Medion also, but I want to play it on my msi :D

    When action happens, the GPU utilization sparks to 70% but rarely. It usually hovers in the low 30's when wandering the wasteland. Furmark it's 99% all the time. With the CPU and action going on, one of the cores goes up to 70% but it seems that the second core never really gets used. I rarely see it go over 20% and that's only for a brief second.
     
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    And what are the speeds of your GPU/CPU when it happens? The GPU utilization suggest a CPU limit somewhere. Maybe the clocks are not running properly?
     
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    According to HWinfo, the average CPU usage is only 27% and the maximum is 52%. I just went to Vault 3 with all the fiends. That's where it's most noticeable.
     
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    Are you running in full screen, or windowed? Also what are the clock speeds? Not utilization but the actual speed of the CPU? It does sound like a bug nonetheless because neither your CPU nor your GPU is taxed. According to some research, your machine should be even be able to run skyrim ultra settings ar 38-40fps on average, I would assume FNV would less taxing somewhat. Hows your performance with max settings and lowest settigs?

    Also as a reminder, do not include profanity in your posts or titles nor try to bypass the language filters. Consider this your only warning on the matter. No need to use profanity to ask for help or argue/debate points in the forum.
     
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    The clock speeds go up to 2.7ghz. The average is 2.3ghz. I think those boosts happen when I launch the game. I can't seem to get afterburner to show the clockspeed of the CPU. Only the utilization. I can get the GPU clocks to show though. When action happens, it clocks itself to 1250mhz on the memory and 900mhz on the core. Should've mentioned earlier that I am running Windows 8.1. I do not have the game in compatibility mode. I am running it in full screen.

    When I first installed the game, I had to lower the settings from "Ultra High" to medium due to how poor it was running. On ultra, I get frames in the 20's. That's about it really. Honestly, I haven't tested any other games on it. I only got it recently and have been playing NV to death. I'll try another game in a bit and report back with the results. If the next game runs poorly, I will then wonder why furmark runs so well.
     
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    I was under the impression that your CPU could reach as high as 3.2ghz, how odd. Does CPU-Z allow you to monitor your clocks? Maybe there is another setting we are missing that is holding the system back? how weird.

    I know AMD CPUs lack performance but I would think they should be enough for fallout nv.