Does the keyboard of GT73VR with 1070 really get that hot under load?

I have been looking for a laptop as a desktop replacement for a while after having a desktop for my entire life and you all probably know how much of a headache it is to find the one that you're sure is optimal for you.

After changing my mind many times I landed on two options: Acer Predator G9-792 and MSI GT73VR.
Both with 16GB, GTX 1070s, the only differences are cpus and screens. MSI one is equipped with i7-6820HK and 4k 120hz screen and Acer has i7-7700HQ and FHD 75hz screen.

I like a lot about Acer but MSI get better rep on many forums and seems better overall in many aspects (mainly cooling and cpu temps, on Acer they get as high as 98*C) but one thing is really concerning.
Every review I have read mentions how high keyboard temperatures get under load and how uncomfortable it gets in longer gaming sessions.

Is that true?

Besides the keyboard on GT73VR (which I don't really like, but could live with) that one thing could be a dealbreaker as that's the main thing that I hated about the Alienware laptop I had for a while.

Side question: reviews also mention loud fans, are they that bad under heavy load?

 

Keyboard with 1070 never gets even close to hot.
Can't speak for 1080's.
Also why would you get a 6820HK? Get the 7820HK. Overclocks farther most of the time, and unless you get a dog chip, you should be able to reach 4.2 ghz at lower voltage than a 6820hk (which may not be able to reach 4.2 ghz).

 

Can't get it with 7820HK in my price range where I live. Is 6820HK a bad choice?

 

Not a bad choice, but the 7820hk has on average 200mhz higher clockspeeds when overclocked, at similar temperature, and far easier to obtain. I have seen 4.2Ghz clocks "easily" on a lot of 7820hk machines, and sometimes more, while 6820hk seems to settle more on 4ghz, and it requires more voltage.

Clock for clock they are basically identically, but 7820hk can go farther.

 

I'd like to see the reviews that said the GT73VR's keyboard gets hot and uncomfortable. I've literally never seen, heard, or read of anyone making that complaint.

 

Thanks, I'll look for one with 7820HK then.

 

No, if one with the 6820HK is significantly cheaper, you absolutely should not pay more for the 7820HK.

 

How about the right hand exhaust grill? Does'nt the hot air from it blow directly at your hand when using a mouse?

 

I believe it does, as there is a vent there. I don't think I've heard of anybody really complain about that either though.

 

Thanks.

 

I honestly think that 120hz 4k display is too much for a single 1070.

 

Yeah, my thoughts exacly. That's why I ordered one with FHD screen.

 

I have a 120hz FHD screen and my gtx1070 already struggling xD.
I mean, works great, but with 2k or 4k... would be a mess.

 

You're struggling only because of power limits.
Check GPU-Z. I bet your performance cap reason will be filled with green bars right?
Mod the power limits to desktop levels then flash the vbios with a hardware programmer and those problems will be solved.

 

Is that something you recomend to do with every unit?
If so, could you point me to some how to tutorial, or say what exacly to look for?
Thanks in advance.

 

Check the pascal editing thread in the Sager section (they really should move that thread though) and read that forum. This isn't something you can put in a FAQ.

 

Thanks, I'll look into that.

 

I'll just copy what i wrote in my post on OCN:

You'll also need some decent thermal compound like Kryonaut or Nanogrease Extreme. I would not put liquid metal compound on a 1070 GPU. GPU's only show a few C drop compared to Kyronaut, because the larger die means better heatsink contact and thus better heat transfer (more surface area=larger contact), so it's not worth the risk, and the amount of preparation would be much more than a BGA CPU (more compound, larger silicon=more LM to create possible Conductive Balls of Death running over the video card PCB, less safe area, resistors requiring tape or nail polish all over the place). A 1080 would show more benefit because it runs MUCH hotter than a 1070, but it's not worth it at all on a 1070.

 

Nope, it says:

* Reliability. Indicating perf is limited by reliability voltage.
*/
NV_GPU_PERF_POLICY_ID_SW_RELIABILITY = 4,

 

Did you did this on your MSI?

Edit: Yes you did, sorry for the question

 

Got my GT73VRbwith 1070 2 days ago.
The store repasted it before shipping, so the temps are nice, 70 something on cpu & gpu while gaming on ultra (only ran PUBG and Witcher 3 so far) and low 50s while web browsing and such.
But the keyboard is kind of noticeably warm to touch, even after 20-30 minutes of light usage, but it doesn't get much warmer under load, so that's a big plus.

 

I like to ask is the hot air coming out of the right hand exhaust grill bearable on your mouse position?

 

Yeah, depends on how you position the mouse, but I have no a problem at all with it.