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    Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 issue with G-SYNC? (Confirmed: it does support G-SYNC)

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    So I just received my MSI GT73VR Titan Pro which has a Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 screen supposedly with GSYNC

    I checked in the nVIDIA Control Panel but there is no GSYNC option.

    What gives?

    I installed MSI's official 376.39 driver by the way

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    Edit:

    Here's an image of this same model with GSYNC so people, don't be scared of buying this laptop, it does have GSYNC. My system i being replaced as it was an anomaly

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    MSI models have been super sketchy with GSync. I've heard reports of this before where they expected GSync but it wasn't there. I know unlike some makers they released the models first without GSync while waiting for GSync certification.

    Have you asked @Donald@HIDevolution about it yet?
     
  3. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    I haven't but he isn't a technician.

    Hoping for other users to give some feedback

    Here are my screen details:

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Rynaus

    Rynaus Notebook Consultant

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    This laptop and the screen definitely supports G-Sync. Have you checked both Vertical Sync and Monitor Technology under the Global Settings ?

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
  5. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Try using a driver other than what came from the OEM.
     
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    there is no monitor technology like when you do have GSNYC, and no GSYNC tab.

    The V-Sync has a few options like managed by 3D App or on, or Fast, nothing of that has anything to do with getting GSYNC
     
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  7. Rynaus

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    Then perhaps you just need a driver update or reinstallation of the drivers, but I'm sure you have already tried the latter.

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
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    Ill try reinstalling the driver, the laptop was already using the nVIDIA Graphics Driver maybe it's because I didn't install the Intel driver first this happened?

    I'll try now
     
  9. Rynaus

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    While reading through the MSI forums, I found this and some users stated that doing this brought back the GSync option in the Nvidia control panel. I don't know, may be give it a try :

    1. Windows must be installed in Legacy Mode (settings in MSI BIOS).
    2. Reboot and go to BIOS, change to UEFI. Save and reboot. Windows don't start.
    3. Reboot and go to BIOS, change to UEFI with CSM. Save and reboot. Windows don't start.
    3. Reboot and go to BIOS, change back to Legacy. Save and reboot. Windows start and G-Sync should be visible in NVidia panel

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You're in Optimus mode? The G-Sync control panel won't show up for the internal display if you're running it this way. Same thing happened on my P670RS when I was using the MSHybrid setting - G-Sync only appeared for my compatible external monitor, not the built-in screen.
     
  11. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    oh I did press the button on the right to switch from Optimus to dedicated only

    this laptop has Optimus but they don't run together at the same time so I don't think thats Optimus

    I even tried the new driver 378.49 but no luck
     
  12. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Is there something in the BIOS that allows you to switch between hybrid and discrete?
     
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    nope, it's only with a key on the right next to the numpad. You press that button, then Windows reboots and switches the graphics

    When in discrete mode, you don't even see the Intel HD Graphics as it's not there so it shouldn't activate Optimus and make GSYNC not work

    I guess this screen has no GSYNC :(
     
  14. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Just sent MSI a support ticket
     
  15. saturnotaku

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    Did you run the G-Sync test from NVIDIA to see if it is actually working?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    no, can you tell me how to do this or where to get it?
     
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    I have the same screen and it has G-Sync.
     

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    ok that's good at least

    I installed Windows 10 in Super RAID 4 mode / UEFI / Secure Boot = On

    what can you suggest?
     
  19. saturnotaku

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    Look up G-Sync pendulum demo. It's available for download on NVIDIA's site.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  20. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    I installed it but when I click on the GSYNC Icon on the top left, it goes back to VSYNC OFF right away
     
  21. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Post a GPU-Z screenshot
     
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    [​IMG]

    Also note, that even though Secure Boot is enabled, when I enable the Fast Boot option in the Boot options and save, it reverts back to disabled after I reboot
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    That's also the right GPU. Since, unlike the other user, you have KabyLake you may have to update your BIOS for g-sync license. Different CPU breaks g-sync license.
    See if they have an update for your model. Also make sure to use the latest NVIDIA driver, since older ones won't have the required code either.
     
  24. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    BIOS is the latest bro, E17A1IMS.308

    I hope MSI responds to my ticket with a new BIOS then :(
     
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    Don't you have a button that switches GPU? It's on the right hand side.
     
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    Sorry its the second one down.
     
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    yes offcourse, that's what I've been saying in my previous posts, I did switch from the Intel Graphics to the GTX 1080 using that button and then I no longer see the Intel HD Graphics

    I think it's as Prema said, since I have a Kaby Lake I may need a new BIOS update
     
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    Here is a shot of the manual.

    gpuswx.jpg
     
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    Oh, I would think it would have the correct BIOS with all the prep they did for you.
     
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    Maybe try installing the entire driver?
     
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    tried that, I was skipping the 3D Vision Driver initially but even with that, no joy
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    HIDevolution is not responsible for the BIOS, MSI provides the BIOS and it does have the latest one
     
  33. Atma

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    I have the same display on the GT73VR 6RE. It has gsync.
     
  34. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    ahhh because you have a Skylake CPU. I guess I need to wait for a BIOS update
     
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    Oh .. yep. Hope they can get it to you quick.
     
  36. Maineiac12

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    My 7RF had kaby lake and the same screen and I had GSYNC. I returned it to Newegg otherwise I'd take a screen shot.

    I had to enable it in the nvidia control panel but the option was there.

    Do you know if HID modified the image from stock or did a windows clean install?
     
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    I did a clean install myself bro

    anything you can suggest?
     
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    Did you have gsync before the clean install or did you not notice?

    You can try checking under "manage 3D settings" in the nvidia control panel and make sure that "monitor technology" is set to gsync.

    You could also check your windows monitor drivers. I'm using the Microsoft driver 10.0.14393.0

    Another thing to try is use the MSI restore USB and set it back to the factory install. There's not much bloatware and it can all be removed by uninstalling.
     
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    I don't have the MSI restore bro I ordered it with a clean install

    Do you remember if the MSI factory image was setup as UEFI and Secure Boot on?
     
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    Yeah, that's one of the problems with getting MSI / Asus laptops from Boutique shops, they are responsible for the OS install / config, and you don't get the efforts of MSI in the OS config or installation.

    I always thought that was kinda weird, why would MSI not want to put their best configuration forward - the software / hardware work closely together, and why would MSI not want their tuned image to follow their hardware.

    I think if you contact MSI - register your laptop through MSI here:
    https://register.msi.com/home/login

    You can get support through MSI as well, ask questions, get specific downloads (likely not the OS image), and even RMA - they might let you RMA the laptop to them to get the official OS image - if you are interested :)

    Otherwise you can go to MSI support locally in Dubai, and take a 32GB flash drive with you, give them the puppy-dog eye's (tearing up a little), and ask kindly to run BurnRecovery on the same model laptop in their stock. Maybe they will be kind and restore to your boot drive the standard image / recovery partition, then you can run BurnRecovery yourself from your newly imaged boot drive / recovery partition.

    AFAIK the boutique shops never get that image, all their laptops from MSI come blank.
     
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    I already registered and creates a ticket

    I'll wait for MSI to respond
     
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    @Phoenix this is likely the issue, and I see you trying to verify that the production units from MSI are set up like this, maybe also ask in the main owners thread for the GT73VR.
     
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    Yeah, you'll probably get a quicker response from the NBR GT73VR owners thread, I've seen this problem come up a couple of times when people do a "clean install" and didn't note the BIOS settings before "load defaults" or making their own settings changes.

    Someone there will likely give you what you need before going 3 rounds with MSI support :)
     
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    Oh yeah, I meant to mention that if you have a boutique shop MSI you are supposed to get support through the shop, not MSI, but MSI will honor the warranty - 2 years I think even for the boutique model.

    I'd word things such that you don't mention the shop, just go in cold as a new MSI owner, say you did a clean install and you don't have G-sync, what configuration changes do I need to make it work loading the OS from MS media.

    Maybe you already did that, but figured I'd give you a heads up to save you time.
     
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    Probably. Because the new models isn't listed.
    upload_2017-1-30_4-47-55.png
    https://www.msi.com/faq/notebook-2415
     
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    Same laptop as yours GT73VR 7RF

    same display, even same production week lol ) have g-sync
     

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    Whats your BIOS version?
     
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    They all come with the same bios as there's only been one release so far.

    I'm 99% sure it's the something to do with the clean install of windows.
     
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    BIOS Ver. E17A1IMS.30A
    BIOS release 2016/11/17
     
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