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    Catalyst 10.11 Fixes OC issue

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Bearclaw, Nov 20, 2010.

  1. Bearclaw

    Bearclaw Steaming

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    Just a heads up, the Catalyst 10.11 release fixes the issue that when you have an OC clock, the idle clocks are messed up.

    Now the idle clock/voltages are normal even when you have on OC clocks.

    It also seems to really help with temps... I was getting maybe 75-78 before now it's around 70C
     
  2. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Heh. I've had my GPU vBIOS-overclocked, so I never had that problem.

    But damn, these drivers run cool. I've been on the machine for about three hours, doing light browsing, and HWM says my max temp on the 5870 was 36C while it's currently 34C. Yes, I'm modded, it's only 65.7F in my room, and I use a Zalman NC2000, but that's redunkulous temperatures.
     
  3. @tilla

    @tilla Notebook Evangelist

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    Can confirm this.
    Till 10.10 max. temperature on Furmark (1680 FS, 10 min.) at 76°C.
    Now (10.11) 70°C. :D
    Ambient 21°C.
     
  4. Molius

    Molius Notebook Consultant

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    Can anyone update about the automatically set low/high clocks with these drivers for GX640? How low it downclocks to reduce temperatures? I'm still on 10.4 because that's the last version where I can change memory frequency by editing CCC profile.
     
  5. SomethingLame

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    It downclocks to 100MHz as far as I can see from ATI CCC panel
     
  6. Dakins

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    Doesn't work for me. 10.4 and previous would downclock the core to 150MHz when plugged onto my external monitor through HDMI. Even with this new driver, the lowest the core will go is 500MHz. I'll try updating the CCC as well, as the first release would crash and freeze upon rebooting Windows. I'm guessing this has been fixed?
     
  7. Septimus_DSX

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  8. Dakins

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    Well, you know, the thing I liked about the old CCC is that I didn't have to mind it, it would just work magically and change clocks for me. Lazy, I know.

    Thanks for the link.
     
  9. equilibrium1736

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    Could you explain why 10.8 is the best? I keep hearing that but never understood why?
     
  10. Septimus_DSX

    Septimus_DSX Notebook Consultant

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    10.8 is not necessarily the best, but seems to be the latest version that actually installs without a hitch! With 10.11, if you somehow manage to install it, CCC runtime does not work...AT ALL. I was chewing my fingers to bloody stumps trying to get it installed on a brand spanking new, fully updated Windows7 install.
     
  11. @tilla

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    Idk, what you have done. But here installed like all the other driver releases.
    First, uninstall the old package. Then reboot, install the new one, reboot again.
    Tadaaa...new driver installed.
    Powerplay (auto down-/upclocking) works as before.
    Sure, you need the right vBIOS.
     
  12. Septimus_DSX

    Septimus_DSX Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think this is common knowledge. ;)
     
  13. SomethingLame

    SomethingLame Notebook Consultant

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    I'm there too, but didn't uninstall old driver, just installed on top :)
     
  14. Dakins

    Dakins Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, with Windows 7 I think you can just overwrite drivers without uninstalling them beforehand. It's a new feature or something.
     
  15. SomethingLame

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    To be honest I have never uninstalled unless I did a downgrade :p
     
  16. Leythg

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    I cannot install 10.11 drivers to save my life. I tried the mobility and regular verisons. It installs CCC but not the driver. How have you guys been able to install any other version than the one available at MSI's website(which is outdated, i think it's 10.8).

    EDIT: I got it installed off of some Toshiba version I think. It reads 10.11 in GPU-z. So far temperatures look alot better for the first 5 minutes of gaming.
     
  17. Bearclaw

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    Uninstall previous drivers, boot into safe mode then run Driver Sweeper, then boot normally and install new ones, and restart once again.

    The ones from MSI website is 10.5 (if you're talking about 8.732)
     
  18. Leythg

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    I was just about to try the safe mode idea before I got it to work. Maybe i'm seeing such improvements since I've been on the Msi ones and they seem quite old. Either way, i am much happier with the temperatures and performance now.
     
  19. Septimus_DSX

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    My bloody Windows died due to excessive overclocking. Totally my fault. :D

    I reinstalled Windows today and installed Catalyst 10.11. It works fine. I think the problem before was I installed each component separately. This messed up the install. The correct way is to perform all windows updates BEFORE you install. Also, install with the little download/install utility.
     
  20. Molius

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    Hehey, good news. I tried this 10.11 driver package and was very pleased that some issues have been solved. There are 2 main improvements: ability to change memory frequency through CCC profiles (the last version in which it was working was 10.4) and the second thing is better management when downclocking. on 10.4 minimal "settable" memory frequency was 400 MHz - below this mark driver became unstable. Thus now I can perfectly downclock it to 150 MHz without any issues.
    So now my computer idles on 100/150 MHz@0,9V and gpu temp is ~48-49 C. Playing Fallout New Vegas on 700/1000 MHz@1,05V for extensive amounts of time yields maximum temp of 89 C.

    No thermal paste/bottom plate mods, no additional coolers, notebook just lies on plain wooden surface and room temperature is ~22-24 C.

    So far, I'm happy with my GX640.
     
  21. SomethingLame

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    Had to uninstall and reinstall 10.10 since 10.11 gave me weird issues. And I noticed that the only reason the tem went down were because of the better downclocking from ATI but with Furmark the max temp was the same.
     
  22. Bearclaw

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    No, running at same clocks as confirmed by MSI afterburner OSD results in lower temps.
     
  23. NeoGutsman

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    Sorry if this is a question that's already been answered via the 640 thread (it really grew over the last couple of months! :D), but are the new 10.11 drivers worth updating from my 10.7 driver? I don't overclock anything.

    Thanks, and sorry again if this was answered elsewhere.
     
  24. Molius

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    while you don't overclock, you can always downclock to:
    - keep your notebook cooler;
    - make your battery last longer;
    - keep the notebook more silent (because of reduced fan speeds);
     
  25. Septimus_DSX

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    No need to change if 10.7 works. ;)
     
  26. NeoGutsman

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    @Molius: Thanks for the advice. This is sort of my desktop replacement for the most part, so it stays in one place atop a notebook cooler. If/when I do use this more on the road I'll definitely consider downclocking.

    @Septimus_DSX: Sounds good :) I've been running all sorts of games with no problems (Risen, Resident Evil 5, Bioshock, etc.) so I'll stick with 10.7.
     
  27. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    As someone said on another thread:

    "Why aren't you people using these drivers. They drop temperatures."

    And that they do. My 5870 is running cooler than ever.
     
  28. Septimus_DSX

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    True and here is the data to back it up:

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