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    Breaking News: MSI GT60 3K Edition!!!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Cloudfire, Jun 4, 2013.

  1. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Really important news for everyone:

    MSI have done it again. The newest laptops brought many new features to the GT-brand. Cooler Boost 2, with improved cooling. Support for 3 screens. Super Raid 2 with 1500MB/s speed, Newest GTX Nvidia card along with the newest CPU architecture from Intel.

    Now MSI is proud to present Ultra HD (UHD) 3K display for the GT60. That is a 2880x1620 display to fully support the powerful hardware GT60 boasts.


    :eek:



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    Source #1: MSI Global – News
    Source #2: MSI's Haswell laptop comes with a 3K screen | Reviews - Laptops - CNET Reviews
     
  2. Talon

    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    What!?! That resolution in the laptop?!

    Thats it, I'll either be selling my laptop for this display, or upgrading it myself. We'll maybe. That will definitely hit my FPS hard.

    Ok kidding, I can't buy this beast now. I think my 1080p screen will do fine for now. Although I am already looking at CPU and more mSata drive upgrades.
     
  3. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    YES!!!

    OMG I`m shocked.
     
  4. colatruck

    colatruck Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good thing I ordered my GT60 already or else I might have burned an even bigger hole in my pocket...
     
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    This is exactly what I thought when I saw this lol.
     
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    Wow. MSI is pulling out all the stops.

    Wouldn't you really need SLI to manage those resolutions? I'm curious how they managed the three displays with Optimus, or does it not use Optimus?
     
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    I'll have to get Haswell if I can't install that myself.
     
  8. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    There is a ton of games you can play at 1600p. After all you get a GTX 780M which is very powerful.
    GTX 780M is pretty much equal to a GTX 580. Look here for game benchmarks and see how GTX 580 perform. The newest games, Far Cry 3, Crysis 3 however you will have to reduce the resolution or graphic settings: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2 GB Review | techPowerUp

    Its not just gaming where a screen like this is welcomed though. Think about the sharpness when doing office work or looking at photos, or just watching movies?!

    Oh how I wish they also make a GT70 3K edition. Now I`m really tempted to go down to 15.6". This is so awesome :)
     
  9. R3d

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    Man, looking at the specs I'd expect that model to be at least $3k. :eek:
     
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    Of course I don't expect this machine to be too portable. That screen likely will draw lots of juice too. But for a portable gaming/workstation, it's great. Clevo has some catching up to do, and so does Alienware.
     
  11. AlwaysSearching

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    I am thinking even more than that. The cpu alone will be 1k upgrade.
     
  12. R3d

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    agreed, that was more of a pun on the name :p
     
  13. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    The price is certainly going to be interesting to see.

    There are a few uncertain factors here:
    - Is a 1600p display really a lot expensive than a 1080p display? The stock display MSI use is pretty good. If yes, maybe MSI got a good deal on it?
    - That XM processor might not just be the only CPU choice.
     
  14. Micaiah

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    You can pretty much guarantee the 3K edition doesn't just stand for the horizontal resolution alone, but very likely the price as well.
     
  15. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    We don`t need XM processor to run 1600p resolutions. The 4700QM is better than a lot of desktop CPUs that is part of gaming systems with 7970 and GTX 680. What counts is the GPU power and a CPU that doesn`t bottleneck it
     
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    aban714 Notebook Evangelist

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    LOLWUT?! ......... ill just shut up, maybe try some nutella to get this outta my head........damn....
     
  17. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    It can`t be done. I tried. I have to buy it. The force is strong in this one :D

    Still hoping for a GT70 with a 3K display though
     
  18. Micaiah

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    From CNET's article, it's implied that MSI will be including the 4930MX in this specific GT60 SKU whether you want it or not. Unless a reseller is offering a service to install the screen on the regular GT60s or a remote chance that MSI will offer a barebone version, you're pretty much stuck with it. I'm sure it's a $800-$1000 upgrade over the 4700MQ if it was available as an option.
     
  19. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    And how many SKUs can you find from GT60? Or GT70? Right, not just one. If I were MSI and decided to present a state of the art notebook, I would have used 4930XM too myself to make it seem really insane. ;)

    Worst case scenario is to sell the XM processor and install a regular 4700MQ yourself :)
     
  20. Micaiah

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    It seems counter-productive to not just buy a regular GT60 and just replace the screen via reseller or DIY.
     
  21. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    How is it counter productive? Still involves changing out parts you don`t want
     
  22. AlwaysSearching

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    What is the most expensive msi you guys have seen?

    If I start with a gt60-20 and add the cpu, 32g ram, 384 msata it is $3350. A 95% high gamut is $195 so have to think
    1600p is probably a little more than that.

    Although of course I want one ( who wouldnt ) that is most likely going to be a very expensive machine.
     
  23. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    With this resolution, it's probably (reads - MUST BE) eDP, where the "ordinary" GT60 is LVDS. Awesome one MSI, awesome one, indeed :D

    Edit: Just in case you wonder what this means - forget about replacing the display easily, unless there are two connectors on the MoBo (I think M6600 and M6700 have two, but they are 17"). Even then you'll need another cable as well.

    Edit 2: Another thought, so far all of the ultra-res displays are IPS, what are the chances for this one :D
     
  24. Micaiah

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    Because you stand a much better chance of getting the end product you want and with less out of your pocket than selling the 4930MX and then buying the 4700MQ. No one is going to pay more than $500 for a 4930MX especially when an Engineering Sample will likely be available for a fraction of that price.
     
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    Try Asus G750 for $2499, Nothing special about it, but very expensive :p

    Also, why should this machine have 32GB RAM and 384GB mSATA? There are SKUs with 8GB and without SSDs...
    The only difference is the display. If a SKU without that XM processor is offered, it will cost less than $3k. Try $2499 like that Asus I mentioned :)

    Seriously, so much negativity from you. Getting really tired from hearing you.
    XM are sold at Ebay all the time. If you`re a good salesman, you can get a lot back for what you paid for it.

    Good point. We don`t know if the displays can be changed. We don`t know if they fit the current machines.

    As for IPS, who knows. That be an awesome bonus :D
     
  26. KCETech1

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    I cant see screen transplants working, LVDS maxes out well under that resolution ( 2048 x 1152 ), a dual link LVDS can boost the maximum display resolution to 2048 × 1536.

    this will be eDP and very few currently released laptops outside of workstations have support for it.
     
  27. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Saw it listed as 15,5"?! Probably a typo, but we shall see.

    If it is, they'll kill two ducks with one shot - ultra-res and IPS :)

    My thoughts exactly.
     
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    My apologies if you find my posts tiring, but there's always the ignore feature in vBulletin in which you are more than welcome to use. I'm not trying to be negative, but from my personal experiences with selling and swapping eBay CPUs, it doesn't quite work out as well as you would like. When you're selling on eBay, there is no salesmanship, you list the item, describe whether it works or not, and then you're at the mercy of whoever comes across it and bids on it.
     
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    I think its this panel MSI is using :)

    AnandTech | Acer Shows Off 2880x1620 Panel

    Asus Possibly Rolling Out UX51VZ with 2880x1620 Display | Custom PC Review
     
  31. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Awesome, so it is IPS :D Also it wont have VGA, but it will get one more miniDP, so - 2x miniDP + HDMI, very nice :)
     
  32. AlwaysSearching

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    IDK you have to ask MSI. That is what the published specs are for this model on their site.
     
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    This time next year give me this laptop with the 3K or 4K panel with SLI 880m in 17" form factor and I'm sold. That will be one laptop that will actually last me over 3 years, well as long as I don't break it. :p
     
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    Why can't technology wait the &@#! up?!!! I just ordered a GT60..... and now this, going way too fast I tell ya....
     
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    Ah the meaker edition is now on hold *cough*
     
  36. Cloudfire

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    I hear ya. Luckily I haven`t had time to order mine yet. :)

    Now if GT70 doesn`t get a similar panel, do I go down to 15.6 inch just because of the screen?
    Ah, so difficult
     
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    15.5 inch. I wonder if it could be swapped for a 1080p 120hz panel and if it uses optimus. The external connections dont since it can do surround.

    Time to use the high performance vram.
     
  38. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    noway can 780m drive 1600p screen.. you gotta get SLi for that.
     
  39. Cloudfire

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    Well those two are connected. If it use Optimus = Cannot use 120Hz. If it doesn`t have Optimus = can maybe use 120Hz.

    Its 15.6 inch btw.

    Nah, check out GTX 580 reviews on 1600p. No problemo in a lot of games. The very newest most demanding games however you need to lower settings or resolution :)
     
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    Yeah also remember that a properly overclocked MSI 780M has twice the memory bandwidth of a 680M and 165% of the shading power.

    It practically will be a GTX680M in sli.
     
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    Wow this is a big step for the industry. I hope Alienware and Clevo are paying attention. Though we still have yet to see what res the rumored Alienware IPS panels are.

    Seems like every time I settle on a laptop, a new challenger appears. If a GT70 3k drops, I might have to jump on it.
     
  42. trvelbug

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    Interesting news. Could very well be my next laptop.

    Coming from a clevo, I have to ask, how easy are these laptops to maintain and disassemble?


    Sent from a Galaxy far far away
     
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    Before I switched to MSI, I had a Clevo M860ETU. They're just as easy to disassemble and maintain.
     
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    An ISP 15.6 WQHD+ (2880X1620) screen at UHD resolution is somewhat exciting news.

    Resolution horizontal and vertical pixel count is one part of a screens specs while the refresh rate is another that's not mentioned.

    Is 2 x40pin connectors to the motherboard going to be necessary or is a single 50pin enough?

    An ISP 2880 x 1620 120hz panel would be very very nice eye candy but to really appreciate UHD a screen size of 55" or lager is recommended.

    Let's not forget media.Presently there's very very little to watch.

    Right now I think(IMO) this is more PR marketing than practicality for notebook gaming or video viewing.

    What is 4K? Next-generation resolution explained | TV and Home Theater - CNET Reviews
     
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    With the 780m gaming should work at that res to some degree.
     
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    It's over twice the pixels.

    1920x1080=2073600
    2880x1620=4665600

    = 125% more pixels. That will effectively cut your framerate in half or more. Insane resolution. SLI or let me know when we get 384-bit mobile GPU's. ;)

    Or in Cloudfire style... 125% MOAR PIXELZ!!!
     
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    Streaming 4K or 3K UHD video without Thunderbolt could be problematic also.
     
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    I am guessing a 40 pin eDP connector or dual 40's like I have in a couple of high res coloredge monitors.

    actually doing 4K output through thunderbolt is a major issue currently, as where out through twin dual-link or quad HDMI works much better.
     
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    MSI is really bringing it this year, this res is insane for a gaming laptop, personally I am more than satisfied with 1080p in a 15" laptop and I love that there bringout out great new features but I don't think I need that high a res. Don't get me wrong I'm sure the screen is gorgeous and a sight to behold but It won't be cheap, dragon edition GT60 3K will be drool worthy.
     
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    awesome news indeed, finally high res in gaming laptop) of course sli is much more suitable for such a beast. Anyways, on the pictures from notebookcheck i see only 1920x1080p res in the menu?? I doubt we'll see 17"-18" hir res displays any time soon cause of the lack of the panels around, may be too costly
     
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