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    Are my GPU temps normal? (GT70 Dragon Edition 0NE-609US)

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by xtx89, May 9, 2013.

  1. xtx89

    xtx89 Newbie

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    During Bioshock Infinite, temps are steady at 71-73 degrees with turbo fan. Without turbo fan, it very slowly works its way up to over 85 degrees! Obviously, I do not game without the fan, but is this normal? Temps aren't vastly different with less graphically intense games, either. It performs admirably, temps aside. I have heard from an Alienware owner that his temps (same GPU) never got above 70 something. Could have been BS, though.

    If this is not normal, would it be worth re-applying thermal paste? Or are there any other measures I could take? It's not overclocked.

    Thanks bros.
     
  2. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Cooling is very different between manufacturers. Alienware migth have a better cooling solution.

    At any rate, the GPU is rated at up to 93 degrees celsius before it self downclocks. Did you just receive your unit? You can reapply paste to improve temps somewhat. Mine are usually around 72 degrees C without turbo fan which I never use. Only games like Crysis 2 have pushed my temps up to 80 degs, overclocked.

    Maybe the paste was done improperly, and it has too much applied? 85 is not a red flag by any means but it surely is running on the hotter side. You should consider repasting to bring down the temps a bit. Also, clean your fan and exhaust from any dust buildup.

    Keep in mind that ambient temperature has a huge rol on your overall temps. anyways, clean the laptop, if you are worried (85 is a bit high but still manageable and under the limit) you should definitely repaste.
     
  3. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Ryzeki nailed it. No need for concern as far as damaging your system with those temps at this point but they are on the high side of things. I'd keep a close eye on those temps like you have been. Clean the dust out and see if that helps, you should see a pretty good drop in temps from that alone. If you still see higher temps, then look into buying a tube of ICD compound and reapplying it.
     
  4. davidkwan

    davidkwan Notebook Consultant

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    oh.... my new 1762 climb up to 85-87c without turbo fan while playing BF3..... the ambient temperature stay around 20-22c

    sounds abnormal???
     
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    Those are a little high but as we referenced in the OP those temps aren't dangerous. The same advice can be used by you where you'll want to make sure your system is cleared of dust and if you're still seeing high temps reapply the thermal compound.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    Make sure the area is clear and you can raise the back a little.
     
  7. xtx89

    xtx89 Newbie

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    Thanks bros. Very useful information. I suppose I will re-do the paste in time. I'm wondering if I should wait til I get a new screen (like, are there overlapping procedures between the two so I can kill two birds with one stone, or does it not matter?).

    In truth, 85 is just where I drew the line in my experiment and enabled turbo fan. It probably would've continued to climb at least a little bit.

    Also, thanks for the suggestion about lifting the back up. I hadn't thought of that.

    One final question: Although it can handle temps this high (and higher), do such temps shorten the lifespan of the GPU? If so, to what degree? Does anyone know any studies/data on this topic? This laptop was a huge investment for me so I would like to keep it running perfectly for a long time. It's an awesome machine.
     
  8. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    The GPU you have is working under the specifications it was designed for. It should have the expected life of the manufacturer. Sure a cooler running GPU can probably last more, but it doesn't mean your's will fail immediately. The lifespan shouldn't be affected to severely between 80 to 85 degrees, and considering you game with turbofan on, you are not really affecting your GPU whatsoever.

    You can wait if you want, to repaste and change the screen. Keep in mind those are two very different operations and on completely opposite sides. Repasting doesn't really take long. If you are careful, changing the LCD should be a quick job too. Just do it without pressure and take your time.
     
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    Make sure you take the bezel off from the inside edge.
     
  10. sbdjaro

    sbdjaro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just got my 1762 about a week ago. My GPU temps would hit 93C in a matter of 10 seconds after starting any game and would throttle down to under 200mhz even with turbo fan. I took the heatsync off to find that there was a basic thermal pad such as found on the RAM instead of thermal paste. I removed pad and used a thin layer of some cheap white Dynex paste that I had laying around. Now my temps will gradually climb to 93C over the course of a few minutes without turbo fan and will hang out at about 87C with turbo fan enabled. I ordered a tube of arctic sliver 5 high-density from newegg. Hopefully this will help out, we will see...
     
  11. GenTechPC

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    we found some new shipments they all uses thremal pad on GPU instead of MX-2 thermal compound, was quite surprise but we removed it and put IC diamond instead.
     
  12. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Those termal pads for the GPU certainly do not work. Arctic silver will work well enough, just remember to apply the correct amount. I tested out my unit with different amounts of paste to see at which point the temps would start to raise, and it was interesting to see that even a slight amount of extra paste worked against you.

    Originally my unit from Gentech came with IC24 and it worked excellent. I just repasted on my own accord to see what I could do :D but I managed to shave off 1 or 2 C. Your temps with properly applied paste should not exceed 80°Cs in gaming normally, but as long as you have sub 90°C you should be able to game at 100% performance.

    With my previous laptop, when I changed the CPU to 920xm I didn't have IC24 or AS5 so I used a cheap dynex paste I had too, and my CPU worked, but got up to 100C haha. thankfully I stockpiled IC24 back then to fix it.
     
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    I decided to cancel my order from the egg and reorder a tube of MX-2 after doing a little more reading. Have you noticed a huge difference between between IC24 and the normally stock MX-2?
     
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    I would order MX-4 if you are getting it separately or IC diamond.
     
  15. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Well, it might have been the way the paste was set, but I reduced around 4 degrees celsius on average, with properly applied IC 24. I have the best temps I have ever had right now, with my last repaste.
     
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    Antec Formula 7 and GELID GC Extreme compounds also are good alternatives.