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    Applied IC Diamond, see no difference gt683dxr

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Flapo, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. Flapo

    Flapo Notebook Consultant

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    hey guys,

    i applied IC diamond to a secondary laptop with is the same as my signature, with no results in temp drop.

    did i do something wrong?? has someone applied and has got positive results???
     
  2. Geekz

    Geekz Notebook Deity

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    what were the temps to begin with (same with the ambient temp)?
     
  3. Flapo

    Flapo Notebook Consultant

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    im more concerned on GPU Load temps. before @720 84c, after same
     
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    hmm, average at best on load (if it's furmark). ICD7 could be better, did you put the icd 7 tube in warm water first when you repasted? (if not it may be end up being too thick and less pressure from the heatsink to the die, although ICD 7 excels at this it's still better to have it as thin as possible)
     
  5. Flapo

    Flapo Notebook Consultant

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    how important is the thickness??? i mean, i had to use line method because the nvidia chip is rectangular and maybe overapplied. if i take it apart how do i know if i applied to much paste or too little pressure?
     
  6. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    I use IC 7 myself. Due to the nature of the paste being very thick its self the best practice and for best results i have found is to warm the Paste tube either via water or using your central heating.

    Make sure your Heatsink and CPU have every last bit of old paste removed and the heatsink shines. Now using the IC7 warmed paste apply a pea size amount on the GPU in the center. (you can whilst its still warm spread it about i don't personally) then put the Heatsink back on and firmly apply pressure equally when rescrewing the screws back in. Now on the CPU you do the same but with a line in the center from one end of the CPU die to the other.

    I have about a 5-10c difference on IC7 to normal MX-2 or TX-2 which in my eyes are *&$*.

    It takes practice to get it perfect but just remember if you warm the IC7 up there will be at least a 2 hour cure time for the paste to really work.

    As for your question about how can you tell if you have over pasted. There is a simple test using MSI Afterburner EVGA look at the temps now run the benchmark tool of your choice. If you have over pasted the GPU will not cool as quick as a thin pasted GPU. If when you remove the HSF you find that the paste has leaked over the die on to the packaging that is another sign of over pasting.

    Rule of thumb is size of a pea on square dies and a very thin line on reqs. Pressure wise if you screw the screws in equally the pressure will be spot on which you will see this if there is paste on the heat sink if you remove the HSF.
     
  7. Flapo

    Flapo Notebook Consultant

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    so removed the HS and indeed overapplied and needed more perssure. repasted and got better results -5c off old mx4.

    STILL i believe my pasting tecnique can get better but i wasted all my icdiamond so ill have to order to try again
     
  8. WhatsThePoint

    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    5 degrees C is the normal spread between the best and worst of the TCs classified as quality products and is what is usually found on testing in professional reviews.

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2012/1490/5

    Saying 10 degrees C is a bit of a stretch but I'll refrain from going as far as calling it BS.

    The best" I've " ever used is Tuniq TX-3 with Artic Silver 5 close behind.

    I found no difference between MX-2,MX-3 and MX-4 which are excellent and easy to apply.These TCs had an average of 3 degree C higher than TX-3 and 1 degree C above AS5.

    In my examination of several new notebooks with the factory applied MX-2 including my own I found all to have an excessive amount of the TC on both the CPU and GPU.After removing the excess with the straight edge of a credit card held low on each side in a squeege like motion the operating temperatures went down a few degrees C.

    My supply of TX-3(discontinued) is exhausted and TX-4 is nowhere's near as good(4C~5C higher) so I've asked Ken of GenTech PC to ship me some IC Diamond;he's a great person to work with and the #1 source for great information on these MSI forums. :) :) :)

    Sorry -=$tR|k3r=-,you're #2 :D :D :D