Any indication as to when the MSI GT75VR Titan will be showing up?

Hi guys, I'm interested in the MSI GT73VR Titan Pro with the i7 7820HK & GeForce GTX 1080, but just recently I've noticed that MSI have revealed the new GT75VR Titan, which has quite a number of drastic improvements to it over its predecessor, the GT73VR such as New Cooler Boost 5, 3ms 120Hz Screen, Keyboard, Giant Speakers, Per-Key RGB Gaming Keyboard, and more.

https://www.msi.com/news/detail/l-u...W15OsPmQDgtMHxTydwXXvababzsn5wtgywXw0CE0aYw~~

So of course naturally I'm more interested in this new model now over the GT73VR Pro as MSI will have no doubt made numerous improvements to it to make it an all-around better performing machine.

I've done a bit of searching on Google and elsewhere, and I can't seem to find out anything about the release date for this new model so I thought I'd ask here on whenabouts I can go about purchasing the new GT75VR Titan.

Hopefully it will be available to purchase in the next couple of weeks, rather than months. Otherwise I think I would have to settle for the GT73VR Titan Pro, as its really just the super powerful i7 7820HK processor and the GTX 1080 GPU that I'm interested in. Everything else like the new Cooler Boost 5 and the Per-Key RGB keyboard are just little extra bonuses.

Thanks for any answers.

 

There aren't any drastic improvements, except the fully mechanical keyboard (the GT80 Titan had one too but not sure if that was RGB). The GT73 does have per key lighting already, but the cherry MX RGB keyboard is obviously going to be much nicer, with much better RGB as well. The 3ms screen STILL has no ULMB, like desktop gsync monitors have, so that's not a deal breaker. The 5ms TN screen still has excellent image quality (better color reproduction than my Benq XL2720Z, although obviously the ghosting is worse), and the other improvements are really all minor.

The biggest improvement is going to be the Cherry mechanical keyboard. Keep in mind that's going to add to the weight. This is not going to be lighter than a GT73.

 

Yeah I was interested in it at first, but since the specs are identical, same CPU, same storage slots capacity, same GPU, slight bump in memory support up to 2666 MHz. It's not worth it. I'll just wait till they release something which makes it feel like a real upgrade.

If one didn't have a GT73VR Titan Pro though and was in the market for a new laptop, then yeah, it makes sense to wait.

It should probably be available within 45 days, just a guess.

 

Going by what you've said here, I think I'd probably be better off settling with the GT73VR then. If the new GT75VR had a new more powerful GPU, rather than the GTX 1080, then I would consider saving up more for the GT75VR but as it stands right now, I'd most likely be saving myself a ton of cash going with the GT73VR. It's really just the GTX 1080 that interests me the most, it's a huge performance bump up from the GTX 980M that I had in my GT72S which I've sold recently, the 980M is still powerful in its own right, but the GTX 1080 clearly runs circles around that mobile GPU judging from some high-quality gameplay of the latest titles like Battlefield 1 that I've seen on YouTube. Reaching frame-rates of just over 110 FPS in some cases.

See 110+ FPS gameplay of Battlefield 1 running on i7 7820HK & GTX 1080 here:

I've been comparing the performance differences between the Intel Core i7 7820HK and 7700HQ, and I've found that there's really not much of a performance related difference between the two of these processors during gaming other than the 7820HK having the capability of overclocking itself to 4 GHz, which would probably be useful to have in the future. But the price differences between two machines having each processor is an considerable amount. There's a huge saving if one to to purchase a GT73VR system with the slightly unpowered i7 7700HQ, as the GTX 1080 is the real star of the show.

If you take a look at this gameplay below of Battlefield 1 running on a MSI GT73VR equipped with i7 7700HQ & GTX 1080, you can see that the frame rate is rock-solid.



So according to the research I've done, having the i7 7820HK in a GT73VR system only gives higher thermals and slightly more performance through overclocking, but not enough to actually allow the user see any difference in on-screen real-time gaming performance. Not sure if overclocking any hardware in a laptop is a good idea to be honest neither.

The one thing that bothered me most about the GT72S is the light-bleed on all four corners of the screen, I was told by MSI that it's normal, and it can really only be seen during pitch-black dark scenes in movies and games. I'm hoping that the GT73VR doesn't have this small issue or at least not have so much light-bleed. The 5ms 120HZ TN panel, along with G-Sync interests me greatly.

The Cherry mechanical keyboard, while being unique and useful, doesn't interest me as much as it may to others as the one on the GT72S more than satisfied my every-day gaming needs.

 

The 7700HQ will bottleneck a 1080. That's not a good CPU to pair with it. The 7700HQ is locked to 3.4 ghz on all cores and will throttle below 3.4 ghz if load exceeds 45W (and in BF1, it will). This throttling cannot be removed (increasing ICCMax does nothing). The only way to prevent it is to undervolt (-100mv to -150mv).

The 7820HK can not only overclock (some can reach 4.5 ghz on all cores), but you can also remove the 45W TDP restriction.

You should not be choosing between the 7700HQ (bad CPU to pair with 1080) vs the 7820HK. If you're trying to save money, you should be looking at the 6820HK last year's model vs 7820HK.

7700HQ is ok for the GTX 1070, but not the 1080.

 

Thanks for the informative answer. I shall be saving up for the MSI GT73VR with the i7 7820HK & GTX 1080 then it seems.

 

If money is a concern, take a look on the second-hand market for a Skylake-equipped GT73. I got one with the 6820HK CPU, GTX 1080, 32 GB of RAM, 512 GB NVMe SSD, 120 Hz display, official MSI Gaming Series backpack (which is a freaking awesome piece of kit, BTW), and nearly 18 months of warranty remaining for less than 2/3 the price of a comparable new model with a Kaby Lake CPU. The seller was able to provide a copy of the original invoice, which allowed me to contact MSI to have them remove his information from the registration, allowing me to take over ownership.

I will say the build quality on the MSI is not as good as my previous Clevo laptop. It also runs hotter and louder under load. The last points could probably be corrected with a re-paste (that I would have someone else do because I am not comfortable doing it myself), but it's not something that's high on my priority list. Right now, it handles everything I've thrown at it with ease.

 

You can also go for the GT73VR with the 1070 instead of the 1080. That can save you like $500, but if you can get the full 1080 it's worth it.

 

I'd much rather have the MSI GT73VR with top-specs so as to somewhat be future-proof and be able to play the upcoming latest titles at the highest graphics settings, and with very high frame rates. I was completely sold when I saw gameplay of Battlefield 1 on YouTube running at 1080p, 100+ FPS with ultra graphics quality settings on the GT73VR with i7 7820HK and GTX 1080. It's really impressive stuff to see and the desktop replacement seems to be future-proof for the next couple of years. Maybe even more-so.

If the GT75VR comes out within the next couple of weeks, I'll probably end up purchasing that new model instead as I do very much like the new keyboard layout just below the arrow keys, which provides support to the wrist so as to prevent wrist strain, plus the mechanical keyboard will also provide more comfort during gaming. The screen on the GT75VR is also 3 ms, not too much different from the 5 ms panel on the GT73VR, but any improvement at all is nice.

Like yourself or another user said in a previous post, if one doesn't own a GT73VR already then he'd be in a better position to patiently wait for this new GT75VR model to release. Hopefully within the next couple of weeks as I still have quite a bit of working and saving to do, but with dedication and patience, I'll eventually get there, and claim my much-deserved prize.

 

I hope Amazon will get some GT75VR 7RF

 

The GT75VR has the better keyboard (mechanical and per key RGB lihgting), the much better screen (did people miss that it's 94% NTSC and HDR equipped?), and may even have better thermals.

It makes no sense to buy a GT73 right now, before finding out the price and release date for its replacement. The GT75 very well may launch at the same price the GT73 did. That would make it a no-brainer.

 

You are correct. It makes sense to wait for the GT75VR to release if you don't already have a GT73VR. My only two concerns are with how much the model with the i7 7820HK & GTX 1080 is going to cost at launch and when exactly it's going to be released. I have around five or so weeks worth of work to save up the cash needed to purchase a GT73VR and if the GT75VR does show up by the time I've gathered up the required cash, I'll most likely grab the GT75VR instead, simply because I know that it will be a better performing system. Let's hope that it doesn't launch with many defects or issues at launch. I have high hopes for the GT75VR, it looks to be a very promising gaming laptop, much like its predecessor.

 

I wouldn't bank on the GT75 coming in at the same price as the GT73. MSI's been doing some weird stuff with pricing this year - especially with the revamped GE series coming at prices where the GT series normally sat. At least with what I'm seeing, they're generally higher with not much difference (better thermals, slightly upgraded hardware) from last year's models (unless you go for the Max-Q models). It also looks like MSI cut the warranty back to 1 year now instead.

If nothing else, waiting can possibly get you some better prices on the "previous" models.

 

That's what I did when acquired my GT73. For an i7 6820HK/GTX 1080 model, I paid less than 2/3 of what a comparable new 7820HK/GTX 1080 one would have cost, and the seller included the surprisingly excellent MSI Gaming Series backpack that I now take to work every day.

 

MSI is louder than Clevo? I will be damned if that is so!

 

Let's not forget that the new MSI Will have a new screen with 3ms response time and HDR support and a new mechanical keyboard. These Will surely boost the price.
I am betting the MSRP to be around $3199.

And about fan noise...for me the Clevo p775dm3-g was louder than the GT73VR.

 

The GT70 came out at the launch price of the GT780
The GT72 came out at the launch price of the GT70
The GT73 came out at the launch price of the GT72

Do you see the pattern?

They've all had things the previous model didn't (especially in the GT70 -> GT72 leap), but MSI didn't increase the prices.

I've been wrong before, though. I'll be surprised.

 

It's the same cycle all over.

 

And MSI has subsequently gimped the GT72 with the release of the GT73. And the GE series is now starting to occupy the place the GT72 occupied ...

Patterns are starting to break.

 

1. MSI "gimped" the GT72VR, so they could lower the price, allowing the GT73 to slot in at the GT72's launch price.

2. It seems to me that MSI is trying to establish proper tiers. Business wise, the GE series should occupy the current GT72VR space, as there's no point in keeping two GT laptops at once. It's better to elevate the quality of the GE series, than it is to gimp the predecessor when the new GT model is released.

If anything, this is just evidence that the pattern is going to continue.

If I'm right, the entry level GT75VR will be $2,199. Only time will tell.

 

While I'm interested in seeing how MSI have improved things in the new and upcoming GT75VR model, I decided to purchase the GT73VR 7RF-286UK yesterday evening at a price of £2599.97. That's with the i7 7820HK, GTX 1080, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB SSD (2x 256GB SuperRAID), & 1TB hard drive. 1080p 120Hz screen. Along with three years of standard MSI manufacturer warranty.

I suppose I could have waited until the GT75VR eventually releases but to be honest, there's really not that many improvements between the two, at least not in my eyes. And I'm more than happy with what the GT73VR offers with the i7 7820HK & GTX 1080. I also am not a patient enough person to simply wait for this new model to arrive. Thankfully I managed to get the required amount of money saved up, and pulled the trigger in purchasing this super-powerful machine.

Of course like many others with their GT73VR laptop purchases, I won't rest until I receive a system with zero defects. That is I don't want there to be any dead pixels or severe light bleed with the laptop's screen once it's arrived. So if I have to, I shall return units until I receive a "perfect" unit. Hopefully I get lucky and receive a decent unit that'll work as intended, and arrive in "brand new" condition and I can enjoy lots of interference-free high-end gaming while maintaining the machine for years to come.

 

Actually, this started with the GT72S. MSI took the features of the GT72 and put them in the 72S first, and added the unlocked CPU and mobile workstation chipset. They didn't need to remove some things like the hardware GPU switch in the GT72 to distinguish it from the 72S. I remember looking at the GT72 and thinking "wait - where did that feature go?"

MSI has already had the tiers long established. It didn't need to "promote" the GE series to the GT level. GT has been the high end for years, with the GE being mid tier, GS being the slim tier (generally between GE and GT), then you have the cheaper GP and GL lines. I'm all for revamping the GE series and improving it, but I think they muddied the waters at the the GE/GT boundary. I think it would have made more sense to get rid of either the GP or GL lines, then step up the game a bit in the GE and GT lines.

Now, it looks like more versions are starting to trickle out - there are sub-2k versions out now. Before, Xotic only had ones starting in the 2000-2100 range which was a bit high - especially with no Thunderbolt IMO. I think the GE revamp allows them to try to charge more for the GT series without having to do as much to improve them.

True. I think that's a bit optimistic, though. I'd expect it more like $2399-2499, or possibly even $2599. It's getting more GT83 features, so I think it'll be positioned higher, and be the "smaller" flagship below the GT83VR.

The general trend I see with gaming laptops is they're getting more expensive - not cheaper. I understand OEMs wanting to outdo each other for the best high end stuff, but the vast majority of people either can't afford them or won't buy the ultra high-end they're focused on now. In many cases, I don't think the extra features they're adding justifies the amount they're hiking prices.

 

It's worth the wait, every new features is a big improvement, my next gaming laptop if Clevo doesn't have anything new to offer by that time. One year of waiting for a new line up of laptops to come out and finally getting rid of my GT80S.

It's a very expensive toy.

 

LOL, drivers already out for this model, we'll probably see a pre-order next week or first week of August.

 

The product page is on the Canada and German MSI sites, but still not in their GT product finder...nothing in the US site.

GT75VR 7RF-035CA TITAN PRO 4K
https://ca.msi.com/Laptop/GT75VR-7RF-035CA-Titan-Pro-4K.html#hero-overview

 

Wait, did they just took it down?

I also don't see G-SYNC on both the GT75 and GE63.

 

That's why you post the link you find, google couldn't find a US product page...

Do you see other MSI product listings that you know have G-sync, show G-sync on their product page?

I thought MSI took out all the G-sync references from product pages.

 

When I click download it redirect me to this: https://www.msi.com/front_404#!type=download

Oh well.

 

When you have 120hz screen and 3ms, is G-Sync really necessary? Will it have any visible effect?

 

According to most people "no" because they said that G-Sync will only work when your FPS is lower than your monitor's refresh rate, that is true...but in some cases you won't be able to reach 120+ FPS with games like Mass Effect Andromeda even with a GTX 1080, so if your FPS is not in constant 120 FPS = screen tearing, so a 120Hz/3ms goes right out of the window.

So IMO G-Sync is a must have, enabling when you need it, disabling if you don't need it. Plus having it there will give you more future proofing, because 3-4 years from now a GTX 1080 will less likely going to reach 120+ FPS, and during that time you may find G-Sync very useful.

 

@hmscott

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/list.asp?searchname=MSI+GT75VR

 

That's not too bad, cheapest GT75VR with 1080 is 3599DM = about $2145 USD.

I tried looking for Canadian outlets, but nothing yet.

Canada was the other MSI site that had the GT75VR showing besides Germany.

 

@ Enkeixpress @ Falkentyne @ Phoenix @ saturnotaku @ DRevan @ Kevin @ superguy25 @ PredatoR_TR @ DRevan @ Kevin@GenTechPC

https://www.amazon.de/MSI-7RE-016DE...1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500736484&sr=8-1&keywords=gt75

https://www.amazon.de/MSI-7RF-033-G...4?ie=UTF8&qid=1500736484&sr=8-4&keywords=gt75

At least we're getting an early look at the price.

 

It's supremely hard to hold 120+ fps in modern video games, so yes, it's absolutely necessary.

 

for those looking for MSI GT75 Will Arrive On Aug 4, 2017 at excaliberpc store.. the pre-order is open now..
http://www.excaliberpc.com/660922/msi-gt75vr-titan-pro-4k-082.html

• MSI GT75VR TITAN PRO 4K-082 17.3" 4K UHD IPS-Level Gaming Laptop w/ GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X (Kabylake Core i7-7820HK Unlocked)
• 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 2400MHz
• RAID 0 - Stripping Enabled for Higher Performance
• 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3.0 x4
• 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3.0 x4
• 1TB 7200RPM HDD SATA 6Gb/s
• Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (64-bit) (System Pre-Installed)

 

Wow that's a ton of money for it


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LOL that specs, more money for more storage right? I'm not impressed.

 

The new MSI GT75VR 7RF TITAN Pro-202 w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is now available for Pre-order at $2,799 base price with Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK, 16GB + 1TB.

Shipping begins early September.

 

Link ?

 

Notebookreview rules don't allow me to link to our HIDevolution website. Just go there, and put Pro-202 in the search box.

 

http://www.hidevolution.com/msi-gt75vr-7rf-titan-pro-202.html

 

Just ordered:

MSI GT75VR TITAN PRO-202 17.3" 120Hz (3ms) Full HD Gaming Laptop w/ GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X (Kabylake Core i7-7820HK Unlocked)

Upgraded the laptop with 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD RAID 0, and a 2TB Seagate FireCuda Gaming SSHD for storage.

Should be getting it by end of the week. Can't wait!

 

Where'd you order it from man?

 

Excalibur PC

I think they had one more of that model in stock.

 

Never heard of them. Congrats though

 

Thanks!

They sell various laptops on Amazon, as well as direct from their site (I used AmazonPay from there). They appear to be an authorized MSI seller, as the laptop came with all the extra MSI swag (backpack, headphones, gaming mouse, mouse pad, etc...)

I had a phone conversation with someone there (based in California), and they were extremely courteous and helpful. They wanted to ensure I got the system I really wanted.

I'll try to post updates once I receive the shipment.

 

https://www.excaliberpc.com/663121/msi-gt75vr-titan-pro-202-17.3.html

 

EXcaliberPC has been around since 2005.

 

Still no sign of GT75VR here -- and probably the extra price over GT73 will lead me to get a GT73.

 

My gt75vr will be here monday. I just ordered a 500gb samsung 960 pro for it. I will probably get another 16gb of ram for it, too.