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    1070 Laptop Missing Performance

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by plcg, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. plcg

    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello everyone, I hope you could help me. My team was an Msi ge63 VR raider 7r → 7700HQ + GTX 1060. After a problem I sent it to repair and returned to be an MSI ge63 VR raider 7RF → 7700HQ + GTX 1070. So far, so good. The loader is still the before 19. V 9.23 A = 179.985 W.
    The computer yields more than before but if I have a 1070 I want to yield as a 1070, but I do not get it. Before reaching 100% (almost always) of use I obtain limit voltage or power limit, or both. But it is very rare because I read that the card should work at a frequency of 1442-1645 MHz and Mia does it to reach 1845 MHz with VCore of 1.05 v. (limited). In games like Witcher 3 if it yields well (100%) But in Resident Evil 2 remake No (80%). My question is: how is it that my GTX 1070 does not yield as a 1070 of laptop with such high frequencies?
     
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    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Appears to be normal laptop 1070 behaviour.

    The card is heavily constrained by its 115W power limit, within that limit it runs as fast as it can. It depends on the game, under a gpu bottleneck it might drop as low as 1600mhz (at the extreme, 1100-1200mhz in furmark) , under cpu bottleneck or frame cap it can sit 1850mhz

    Look at notebookcheck game results or run some benchmarks for single mobile 1070 and compare.

    That 180W adapter may be an issue though, 115W gpu + 45W CPU + power to run the screen & the rest of the system sounds like it's at the limit, look/ask in the owners lounge for your model (I have no direct experience with it)
     
  3. plcg

    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you very much for answering. Ok but I will give you some information. in resident evil 2 remake the portable 1070 gets 100-110 fps when entering the police station at the same point, mine only gets 86. and in the farcry 5 benchmark it is well below other 1070 only gets 64 fps on average with the same parameters.

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  4. AirTortoise

    AirTortoise Notebook Geek

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    You are using the 180w power supply that came with your original 1060 laptop? I believe the 1070 ge63vr shipped with a 230w supply. To the previous poster’s point, if you use something lower it wil prioritize the cpu and throttle the gpu.
     
  5. plcg

    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes. I am using 180W for 7700hq + 1070gtx but the processor does not reach 35W because it has done undervolt. I think the graph is getting the voltage it needs (1.05v the core). I do not know what may be happening.

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  6. AirTortoise

    AirTortoise Notebook Geek

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    The firmware might not care what your actuals are on your cpu, if a 180w psu is used it could power limit the gpu.

    How many watts does something like hwinfo64 say your gpu is consuming under full load?
     
  7. plcg

    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'll look at it this afternoon

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    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for giving me an idea. It seems that it can be the 180w power adapter the gtx 1070 sometimes needs up to 128W and the processor is left with 24-25W. Besides that by lowering the quality of the resident evil remake at the minimum the fps are the same as 100% (funny). Do you think that changing to 240W will have more fps? [​IMG]

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  9. plcg

    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    can someone with a 1070 tell me how many watts do you consume looking at hwinfo64?

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    Would using anything more than a 230W PSU do anything in terms of performance?
     
  11. plcg

    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    I do not know, that's why I'm asking about the consumption of a 1070 laptop to see if mine is being strangled by the 180w power I have.

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    willhub Notebook Geek

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    My 1070 hits the power limit and that with a 230w
     
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    plcg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you, but can you see how many watts consume, see in hwinfo64 please.

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    In case someone is interested, the problem was the single channel ram.

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    PSU isn't limiting the 1070. Exceeding PSU draw will cause the PSU to trip itself to emergency shutoff (requires unplug to reset).
    Embedded Controller limits total system draw to 230W, increasing battery drain (NOS) as draw gets closer to 230W, then the CPU will become heavily throttled by the EC, overriding any bios settings.
    This AC limit is based on video card detection, not on PSU.