~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

I just temporarily reseated it myself and it booted up with driver installed.
I guess it is still alive, will have thermal paste and remover tomorrow to properly reseat it.

Edit: Working great again with nice temperatures.

 

Good to hear

 

Hi guys,

I wonder if someone came across similar problem.
Recently my fan started to behave awkward. Just after powering on the laptop the RPM is on its highest level and remains all the time at that point. Even after rebooting the laptop the fan runs at it highest speed.
SpeedFan, MSI Afterburner or any other software do not detect the fan at all.
I have tried reconnecting the fan on the motherboard, but without success.
Is it likely that it is broken or BIOS flash could solve the issue?

Thanks for your help.

 

A bios flash (more importantly ec too) is a good starting point.

 

Thx for the reply.

Unfortunately flashing the bios did not help...

 

Have you tried cleaning up the heatsink and vent, and repasting of thermal compound?

 

Thanks for the reply.

I'm doing the cleaning on regular basis so it is not the matter of dust or any other obstacles.
The temps are completely fine. I did the repasting few months ago.
Everything just started out of the sudden. After powering the laptop the fan kicked straight in on high rpm, stopped like five minutes after and remained in its normal state for the next few hours of using (running only on higher speed when the gpu/cpu were under stress).
Now, when I power the laptop on, the fan is just running crazy starting from the bootscreen on max speed all the time...
I do not know if it can be related or not, but in the same time when the laptop is being left plugged in, the battery LED is flashing blue. Sometimes it can boot itself just form the battery, sometimes the charger has to be plugged in. So I asssume the battery is worn out.

Should I start ordering a new fan or there is something else what can be done?

Thanks for your help.

 

What software did you use to monitor the temperature? Can you check both to make sure that they are fine?

 

Thanks for reply.

Usually I use HwInfo. I have installed MSI Afterburner and SpeedFan just to check if the first one is doing its job properly.
Each one shows the same temps (around 31C/GPU and 40C/CPU).

New fan is on its way. Will see if that will solve the issue...

 

Best keyboard led indicator program (free):

Keyboard LEDs
Free Keyboard LEDs software shows state of Caps Lock, Num Lock, and Scroll locks.



Consumes just 600KB when running.

 

mSATA SSD into GX660. What do you think about this?

 

Why use msata? If you are thinking of the super raid adapter board it won't fit.

 

thats true... for the MS-16F1, MS-16F2 and for the MS-1761 there is no Super Raid mSATA adapter. Only the "noname" SATA -> mSATA adapter would work, but that does not make sense because you can install the same as a normal SSD.

 

Did not know that Super Raid exists. Was thinking about installing mSATA as an only SSD in GX660 ( have got 2x320GB HDD + 1x500GB HDD in DVD bay ) so my only choice for 4th drive is the mSATA. But will it work in GX660 ?

 

You can always go for a smallish (128GB -256GB) SSD in one bay and a 1 or 2TB HDD on another bay. You would have more space that away than your current setup

 

That means that I need to buy new hard drives. OK. Thank you for your answers, will sell my old drives and buy new ones + SSD.

 

Well the ssd alone is the large investment. TB drives can be found cheap nowadays, specially if you aim for deals. You would hardly invest more money and you would have a superior setup, compared to trying to slap in a 4th drive.

I see no reason to waste space on your notebook with several small hdds. But that's just me.

 

dell 8970m 4GB on 2gen msi gt780dx, i7-2670QM
http://www.nhl.pl/index.php?showtopic=78011&view=findpost&p=869754
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gpu-z with bios
http://www.nhl.pl/index.php?showtopic=78011&view=findpost&p=869602


some screenshots of card with thermopads
http://www.nhl.pl/index.php?showtopic=78011&view=findpost&p=869302

 

gpu-z with bios
http://www.nhl.pl/index.php?showtopic=78011&view=findpost&p=869602


some screenshots of card with thermopads
http://www.nhl.pl/index.php?showtopic=78011&view=findpost&p=869302[/QUOTE]

Have you ran any benchmarks to compare versus other systems with the same GPU? This is to verify whether the GPU is bottlenecked by the processor or not.

 

its not mine MSI - then i cannot guarantee benchmarks

but what exactly bench you need or prefer ?

 

Like 3DMark 11/2013.

 

AMD Radeon HD 8970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2670QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-1761

 

gtx 970m works in msi gx660 ?

 

We don't know, but we would try if we could. We know they work on previous GT60/70 series, but we don't know how far back they do support it. As far as we know, due to users testing it, HD7970m/8970m was the latest it could support unofficially.

 

i think the 970M will works perfect. Because in a MS-1761 and in MS-16F2 works the Card without any problems.

 

It's going to be hard due to the following possibilities.
1. Untested platform.
2. Insufficient power design.
The GPU is 5870 which uses 50W TDP and 970M is like 81W.

 

Nah I doubt it will have a power issue at all. I had a 920XM OC and 7970M OC as well running in that laptop without any issues at all. I think that card had something like 100W TDP.

But untested yes. Give it a go! I'd love to see that old girl still kicking and hanging tough.

 

It's mostly related to bootcode problems. The question is: does the BIOS read the correct INIT value on the 970m? If yes than OK! If no than it's a NO GO! Problem is that we don't know the answer unless someone tries

 

My hd 6990m is 100w , 81w is Works fine my laptop.

Problems is low clock core i7 720 ...

 

If 970m does work with this machine, it's longetivity will be outstanding. Several years of use, 920xm still being a good CPU thanks to its fully unlocked nature, and 970m... The GX660R refuses to die I miss my GX!

 

Hi any one uses Solid State Hybrid Drive with MSI GX660 ? If so how you made it to work in your GX660 ? Because i can not make it to work properly with original MSI bios (non modified one)

 

There was an unlocked BIOS which tweaked support for SSD.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...-msi-unlocked-bios-xmp-support-thread-43.html

Or, you can talk to Svet over at MSI forum for assistance to create such BIOS.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148273.0

 

Hi Guys

I have had a search around the lounge and I think I know the answer to this, but I wanted to double check before I go forking out more money for nothing.

To put you in the picture, last year I bought my son a GX660R 2nd hand, and it has been fantastic, he loves it. Unfortunately, 3 days before Christmas the Power Jack on the Motherboard has freaked out and has actually melted the motherboard around the rear pin of the Jack. I replaced the Jack with a new one and soldered it in and it no longer smokes but is still blowing the fuse on the Power Supply and not charging the Battery. I assume the IC Circuit is fried because if I take the battery out, charge it and put it in, it fires up and works.

I am trying to locate a replacement board now but I am really struggling. The Warranty Crowd in Coventry, Henry's, don't do parts unless I send them the Laptop, then pay them to check it out, to then tell me the board is knackered and it needs a new motherboard, then dig out a price for the motherboard which will include installation, etc., is nuts. There is a slim chance they will be able to repair it as I believe it will probably just be the circuit that has split where the plastic has melted but I don't want to waste anymore time as I purchased a shed of gaming gear for his Christmas this year which he cannot actually use. Caught him doing a bloody jigsaw this morning!!!

I understand from searching that the motherboard can be replaced with the similar looking 16F2, and that the sensor board has to be replaced also, I assume this means the one for the power switch etc along the top of the keyboard.

My questions thus are as follows:

Does anyone know where I can locate a replacement motherboard, an MS-16F1?

or if these can no longer be gotten, is there anything else which needs to be replaced, other than the Sensor board for the F2 board to work?

Worst comes to the worst I might have to resort to sending it to henrys or using a local shop to have a look. My soldering iron isn't the greatest so the solder might not have gotten all the way through the board.


I think I have an Asus G74SX kicking about somewhere he can use atm although something rings in my mind that my daughter has it at uni, but I have gotten him new games, a new Surround Sound Headset, an Elgato HD60, and a Yeti Mic, but now he has no laptop.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Lennie

 

MS-16F1 and MS-16F2 are completly same, only the Chipset (HM55 vs HM67) and the CPU Support (Arrdandale/Clarksfield vs Sandy Bridge) are the different. You can use all the parts from the MS-16F1 on a MS-16F2. MSI has change from the MS-16F3 any things, like the HDD Boards and the Power Sensor Bar.

Maybe i sell the next weeks a MS-16F1 Motherboard from a Medion Erazer X6811. At this time i sell the hole Laptop in a Marketplace from a german Forum.

 

@iTzZent

Cheers for that. I must have read it wrong I thought that elsewhere in the Lounge, MSI Majster said that the sensor board connection was different or something so you needed the Sensor board from an MSI which ran the F2 Board, and the Sensor board from a barebones, etc, would not work. If that is not the case and it is a straight swap then I have a wider pool of options available.

There is a place in Germany, web site is http://pcspezialist-regensburg-notebookservice.de/ who offer to replace the board with warranty for 129 euros including collection installation and delivery back to you, but I know nothing of them. Obviously these will be repaired ones, but any decent length warrant is better than none.

Cheers


Lennie

 

yes you need new sensor board + second odd for hdd - like majster msi said

 

I have tested it myself. Currently I have 2 MSI GT70 (one is mine and the other belongs to my wife), one with a MS-16F3 and the other with an original MS-1762 motherboard. Before the two devices I had a Medion Erazer X6819 (MS-16F2) and my wife a Medion Erazer X6811 (MS-16F1). Thus, I was able to test everything perfect, because the MS-16F2 motherboard I had even been operated in GT70 housing.

MS-16F1 and 16F2 MS are identical except for the CPU socket (Arrandale vs Sandy Bridge) and the Ram slots (3 vs 4) . MSI has changed since the MS-16F3 the power sensor bar (because for Optimus and the 2 colored Power Button) and the HDD boards (for mSATA support with adapter).

I have the MS-16F1 barebone are still completely assembled here, I like to test next week the attachments from my old MS-16F2, because I still have lying around, as I have only sold the motherboard. Since I will sell the X6811 in parts, that would be no problem. When HDD1 board I'm not so sure, because there is the MS-16F1 still the ExpressCard slot off the MS-16F2 there is nothing there. The HDD2 board (next to the video card) and the sensor bar, but at that time I had ever tested.

Are you from Germany ?

 

hmm
f1 to f2 no problem at all ?

personally need f3 from f1 then need sensor board adn hdd2 odd or what ?

edit
thanks for confirmation

 

When you want upgrade from a MS-16F1 to a MS-16F3 than you need a the power Sensor bar and both HDD Adapter from the MS-16F3 or from the MS-1762. Parts from MS-16F4 / MS-1763 are not compatible with the MS-16F3.

So, I've even got the X6811 and took some pictures. Furthermore, I also have the 16F2 sensor board (not surprised it is of the White Book) tested in the 16F1, the unit turns on, but it lights up the 2nd button permanently (with the unit for LED lighting in charge). At that time I had the 16F1 sensor board at my old 16F2 and there were no problems.

Furthermore, I have the 16F2 HDD1 board built (next to the video card) into the 16F1, works perfectly. The Board HDD2 I can only test later.

 

They really look alike!!

 

@iTzZent

No I am not from Germany, I am in Scotland, but their advertisement said EU Wide, not just Country Wide, Delivery and Collection, so I have kept it as a last resort. I am not an Intel Fanboy, and I have always used AMD Chipsets, basically due to cost, but I assume the F2, being an uprated chipset, will not allow me to transfer my CPU from the F1 board to the F2. My Sons GX660R has an i5 460m(glad I didn't buy that 920 upgrade for him now), which I assume is an Arrandale. Am I correct in assuming that the F2 will only take a Sandybridge, so will also need a new CPU if I swap motherboards?

Ta muchly


Lennie

 

yes f2 works with sandybridge cpu only
f3 works with ive and also sandybridge

Intel crush amd in any way except price

 

The F3 works only with i7 Sandy Bridge CPU´s. i3-2***M and i5-2***M don´t work. This i´ve tested.

 

Hey what's up everyone... Seems like this is the place for all of us GX660/r owners.

Well I'm having a few problems with my 660r as of late and can't figure out what to do...

1. Will randomly hang and BSOD. Memtest came back with clean results, new and previous GPU drivers didn't fix the issue. Something wrong with one of my SSDs? Suggestions?

2. My bluetooth won't work! It comes on and off in the device manager, states the drivers are installed and functioning ok but does nothing. No notications in the tray and when I go to my bluetooth menu, it says "the attached bluetooth dongle is not supported". Device manager said my drivers were up to date. Anyone have different drivers or suggestions?
2a. Oh I should also note that since my BT hasn't been working, I've been using an external USB BT dongle.. Could the drivers be conflicting each other? Wouldn't this also show up in device manager?

3. My battery won't last 5 minutes off the charger, it hits some certain percentage and just shuts off. No BSOD, warning, or anything. Just a hard shutdown. I assume one of the battery's cells has gone bad (battery is only a few months old though and has worked perfectly before). Do I need a new battery?

4. Where can I get a new charger for this thing? Mine is getting pretty beat up. I'm told that the voltage, amps, and all that jazz should match.


Thanks everyone!

EDIT:
Should post specs:
Typical GX660r specs other than
12GB RAM
3x120GB SSDs

 

Hi mate

First whats your windows version?

1. I don't think your SSDs are the problem here. Mostly a driver related issue (not only GPU but also sound and chipset drivers might be at fault). Try cleaning the drivers and re-installing them under safe mode.

2. Usually BT dongles don't conflict with internal BT adapters (at least in my experience). Have you tried using the generic MS BT drivers? Google how to modify the "bt.inf" file and add your HWID.

3. Battery cells are connected at blocks of 3-series in parallel, to reach the designated 19v 9.5A (180W PSU) or 19v 7.9A (150W PSU). Sometimes a cell gets damaged/worn out on a block, and once that cell fails to deliver, all the battery goes down and its internal circuitry disconnects it to prevent further damage. Try an EC reset/battery calibration, even though I'm a bit sceptical it would work. Worst case you need a new battery.

4. Amazon.com has compatible chargers with the correct voltage output 19v

http://www.amazon.com/9-5A-180W-Replacement-adapter-Notebooks/dp/B007X8CY1U

 

Interested news about 970m and Clarksfield platform. Guy from Alienware forum informs that he`s got to function 970m on Alienware M15x with 920xm CPU and P55 chipset.

 

Yes. It works. Please look on eBay Germany. You have Screenshots from benchmarks in auction...

 

Hi all, been a while since Ive posted in here. Probably cos my 7970m is serving me quite well, but I'm getting a bit itchy to upgrade to a 970m

Has anyone gone down this route yet?

Am I right in saying that the only thing stopping us at the moment is the lack of suitable heatsink, or can one be modded to fit?

Looking in the Official GT60/70 970/80 upgrade thread the 970m can be bought from RJTech for $450, although this is for a clevo, is there any reason it wouldnt work in our laptop?

When I fitted my 7970m I flashed a modded Dell bios and bought the correct heatsink from Majster in the FS section. And its been faultless

Cheers
Mick

 

@iTzZent

I have discovered I can get an F1 board x6811 from Medion. Can you confirm that this board is the one that is in your x6811?

Thanks

Lennie

 

Yes, the X6811 is a MS-16F1 Barebone like your GX660. Only the Powerbar is different.