~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

Sorry man, hadnt got any time yesterday really, will do before midnight tonight guaranteed
pls be patient

 

Ok! Simply I asked about progress in order to support dialog

 

hi all
i have gx660 here
planning to get a 7970m as an upgrade.
any suggest??

as far as i know only intel 320 series SSD work only in gx660
am i to flash a new bios for other SSD?

 

Where on earth did you hear that? I know sandforce drives have had issues, but I know that the Crucial M4 and samsung drives have been pretty compatible thus far.

 

what suggestion you need ?

 

about choosing dell or clevo?

 

Hi Guys, Just installed the 7970m.
BUT i have issues. No crashes and windows registers it as a 7970m but it is super slow. Like shockingly slow. 5.5 score on windows experience. GPU Z doesnt register any temperature or on board memory on the GPU. Anyone know what this could be? I installed with latest drivers from amd site.

Could it be a power issue?

It also stopped my USB wireless device from working which is making me think its a power thing? I have a 120watt psu that came with the latop. And still running the i5 460m

EDIT just updated GPUZ and now it registers everything properly. Temps are good 35 degrees idle but sill crap performance as noted above. Any help much appreciated.

 

Have you checked to make sure the clock speeds are correct when in 3d mode? May need the clock speeds adjusting in the vbios?

 

Actually no they are not. Core clock is 300mhz mem clock is 150mhz. How do i do that mate?
Also pci express is running at 1.1 not 3.0 Does that matter? and if so how do i change it?

Update
I now have the card running at correct speeds. I didnt do ANYTHING it just settled in?
Anyway it seems to jump from max clocks back to the base ones listed above speradically. Anyone know what would cause this? Its as if it is declocking itself thinking i'm at the desktop when actually i am playing games.

 

You need to google find 12.5 7970m mod driver and use that only.
I suspect your card is running less than 1.05v vcore when in full load (if so you need flash your vbios to moded where provides at least 1.05v in 3D clocks BUT FIRST GET 180W POWER BRICK), identify that trough gpuz - max voltage reading when your gpu is full load.
Your 7970m is 100w rated, your cpu is 35w rated you still need power to feed the rest of the system, youre out of power!!!!!!
Your cpu needs upgrade fast too but get powerbrick first!!!!!!!!!!!

 

As always thank you Ultra. Yeah i downloaded msi Kombuster and its running at 1.0v in 3d clocks.
I ordered the same 180watt psu off ebay as the previous chap posted . Sorry cant remember his name .

I will download the modded driver now.

 

I am getting ready to order a new BIOS chip and have it replaced due to a bad flash when trying to flash t a modded BIOS so I could rny OCZ Vertex 4 SSD drive. Now I don't know if I want the seller to program the chip with the modded BIOS so I can this drive or stick with the manufacturers latest BIOS. Thoughts?

If I go with the manufacturers BIOS, what are the better compatible SSD's that will not require a modded BIOS? I am not going to be flashing the BIOS myself anytime soon.

If I go modded, can someone share a link to the proper modded BIOS I would need to run an OCZ Vertex 4 SSD in a GX-660R-US laptop so they can flash it before installing the chip?

Thanks!!

 

Thats not cool what you just said

Just because you bricked your laptop bios chip because you've done something wrong this does no way mean MY MODDED BIOS bricked it, it was you who bricked it due to some error

Any bios you will flash WILL BRICK YOUR LAPTOP because most certainly you will do same mistake over again, so dont flash your bios, and dont blame bad unlocked bios,


Too many users have downloaded with no bad reports bar few which cross-mixed models.

Good luck with your laptop

 

Relax, I did not mean it to come across that way. I am quite certain it was my fault on the bricking the board. If you feel like I attacked you I apologize for that as I surely did not mean it. I just want to make sure that the modded BIOS I provide to the chip seller is the one I need.

 

I dont take it as a personal attack or similar but just as an accusation as my bios is INPROPER, however, there is no other way to mod it than the way I did it, and also I just unlocked little more features than previously "majester_msi" , so call I unlocked every available option in that bios. I suggest you order two chips and ask seller to flash offcial BIOS versions on both, so you can save on postage and chance your arm again on flashing any bios you like.

 

I have flashed many BIOSes and never had an issue. I am sure I did something wrong as I used the BIOS I was pointed to in this forum, which has been proven to work. The seller said they would be able to flash the new chip with the modded BIOS. However I don't know if I want to use a Vertex 4 drive in the laptop. Instead I put that drive into a ASUS G74SX with no mods needed.

 

I know, I have used vertex 3 120GB SSD without need of modifying the bios on my ex gx660r, and heard people used Crucial M4 SSDs without need of modded bios.
Vertex 4 is great SSD but its 50% limited due to old sata controller in GX660R , I would personally recommend getting two SATA2 rated SSD's that performed best at their time and RAID them so it will be also cost effective and approx same performance as out of more expensive SSDs which still be limited, where as older SSDs would perform to the motherboard characteristics, just a suggestion (unless you already own two SATA3 drives)

Here is absolutely fully unlocked including all hidden features , unlocked BIOS for GX660 (NON-RAID VERSION)
There are absolutely all features enabled, so be very very cautious what you do inside BIOS, enabled all hidden sub-features and options, there are so many of those shown now, you may want to enable your turbo fan while browsing via your new unlocked BIOS menu as it will take you some time , and while in BIOS settings your CPU is always is set to MAX TDC/TDP and max clocks, so it will heat up alot and may cause you laptop to power down if not cooled off properly(note: this ain't no bug or new feature its the way CPU behaves while in BIOS for a long time) Be warned.
I have'nt personally tested this BIOS but Im sure it works perfect.
I have taken standard latest GX660 NON RAID bios and I have not touched absolutely any of the settings but I have only enabled/unlocked all to the very last features of the BIOS menu&features content.
Some fields may not contain any useful settings or may not make sense but just use options you feel needed, like enable certain features in SATA options to get your new yet unsupported SSD to work, XMP profiles now are enabled to control regardless of memory supports it or not, so please be very careful.
Of course in worst scenario if you mess up your BIOS so much that you cant power on your PC, you just let it cool off for approx 10mins, and take out back panel of your laptop, and then remove unplug your laptop from power cable, remove laptop battery, remove BIOS battery and press power button on laptop several times, so BIOS/CMOS clears the settings, then wait few minutes and reinsert BIOS battery, laptop battery, and reconnect power cable, BIOS will initialize setup defaults and you're good to go again.

If you feel this BIOS upgrade is worthy say thanks/+rep me

Thanks

https://rapidshare.com/files/1764507561/GX660_NON_R_COMPLETELY_UNLOCKED.zip

 

Can this be used in a GX660R if I am not going to be running a RAID setup?

 

No .

RAID is an option you can disable or enable in your GX660R bios, unlike GX660 non-R bios where it is absent (present after complete menus unlock but Im nearly certain it remains inactive no matter what you select)

 

UltraGSM, thank you very much!It works)))flashing well done

 

No worries,
now go find ACHI/SATA port configuration screen and select ENABLE on: Hot Plug and Port Multiplier for the appropriate SATA port where your SSD is installed.

Good luck

 

Hi Ultra, what benefits are the modded driver to the latest AMD drivers? As i said i installed the latest from the site and the drivers seem fine? I think the only issues im having is power and hopefully when the 180 watt psu arrives everything will be fine? I dont really want to flash the Vbios as i have never done this but of course i will if the power increase doesnt fix the issues.

 

^^ I really think this is the only reasonable explanation for your lack of performance as for now. Even I was having just 5870m + 940XM CPU I could not run full potential with 120W PSU!!! That was just 10W bump in power consumption and since it was XM it would keep turbo clocks constantly higher than non XM cpu, so before I got my 7970m I got my 180W PSU and by the time 7970m arrived I was all set, but my first 7970m would not work well most because vbios was runing max 0.975v on full load(3D clocks), and later I got sorted with another 7970m which was factory running 1.05v on full load(3D clocks). Easy to watch vcore load while runing MSI combustor test.

Your i5 should be 35W rated, and 7970m is 100W rated 100% sure, so you already outrun the power from your stock PSU, and remember there are power needed for your HDD/SSD/ODD/Wlan/Bluetooth/LCD/RAM/Motherboard with all its components built in such as LAN-USB-AUDIO and etc/Fan... YOU MUST get 180W first before troubleshooting any further.

Even after the PSU, I am most certain your CPU is big limit to your 7970m, I had 7.9 windows rating for 7970m.



EDIT: While I had unexpected issue with my 7970m freezing whole laptop random times while in low usage and etc like flash playback and heavy internet browsing, I have tested and found 12.5m would cause least issues with my card but would still make something terrible to happen no matter what, and performance in all benchmarks was the best on 12.5 7970m modded driver. However loads things may have changed since and as for now I may be wrong too. you will need to research yourself which driver will work best for you

 

I agree 100%. Thank you yet again. Psu should arrive tomorrow. I will install and report back.

 

hmm
need advice to 920xm and TS and of course changing multipler because i had max 15 and nothing more ...
gt660
bios set to enable extreme
tdp/tda at this moment 50/50
core limit for all to 0

 

^^ dont mess with bios settings only TS, have you flashed GT660 unlocked bios yet?

 

it original bios from msi
then i reset to default in bios

 

you should be able to OC only via TS even on original unmdded bios, and in case you try everything and fail let me know I will try find time today and will post GT660 unlocked bios if that will do any help (I doubt)

 

still ts show only 15max
in tpl dont have option to change anything


tp tda to 90 in TS

 

This is odd, very weird.... wanna try quick try on CPU features only unlocked GT660 bios flash?

EDIT:

Ok I have actually went and tried downloading GT660 msi bios from their site and it is exactly same download link as GX660 - NON R version bios, so youre good to go with bios given by me yesterday for GX660 NON-R edition

 

maybe that es version isny really XM

im always open for anything interesting

some place i have yours or majster msi unlocked bios - i will flash [already done it few times without any problem]

 

I think my bios has every possible title unlocked to be editable to user in bios settings, more than majester_msi , feel free to chose either


Regardless its ES or QS boths should overclock and must have unlocked multipliers, unless your motherboard firmware is somehow locked but shouldnt be, also I had QS 940XM which was reported as ES 940xm but had print on cpu as OEM 940XM cpu all went fine

 

that's more than strange ...
your v3 bios

that's weird

 

Try GX660 non Raid version bios I have unlocked here:


https://rapidshare.com/files/1764507561/GX660_NON_R_COMPLETELY_UNLOCKED.zip

if this continues to be locked move trough all bios fields and disable all C states you can find and try again but first get it flashed to GX660 bios I have posted link here

 

it's works on yours older V3 version
or simply reflashing bios helps resolving that problem

but temps and difference between cores makes new problem - first looks like i buy super low quality paste ... CM v1 ic value [and yes it looks like garbage ,,,] but i dont expect on 21 and ts bench to get power off with temp >100C :/
looks like mx2 [that i used on 720qm] it's much better or something wrong with heatsink ...

 

works? you mean can you manually set multipliers and TDP/TDC via TS only?

 

Hi Davey, Did you get your PSU? does it work out the box with no mod?

I bought the same one.


Ultra, Can i use your modded Non raid GX660R bios? I am always annoyed at how there are no options in the bios. I am used to using the bios.

Also what kind of temps should i be getting under load and idle on the 7970m? I am currently getting 65-75 under stress and 35-37 idle and i havnt even got it running full yet.

Also fyi to everyone on here. The 3 heatpipe gpu heatsink doesnt really fit in the 2 pipe GX660R, it seems to push the heatsink up away from the gpu and bends the plastic case of the laptopn on the outer edge. You can still TECHNICALLY get it in as I have but its forcing the heatsink to sit up a little off the card and MUST be effecting the cooling. I will dremel my own 2 heatpipe version next weekend and re seat.

IGNORE THIS COMMENT SEE PAGE 234 FOR EXPLANATION OF WHAT WAS WRONG.


Thanks

 

yes after flashing to v3 bios TS works like it should be - i see on screen or not ?

 

2 or 3 pipe it fits, because its 3 pipe its wider and its tight fit in the case but its the same part as referring to case and just different heatsinks but all made for that chassis. I recommend you dremel the chassis where need to make it fir max it neds 1-2 mm shave off plastic inside if its a must and just continue using the 3 pipe heatsink.

Your temps are amazing thats what 7970m should perform temp wise

You can use non-R bios if your laptop is GT660 GX660. And if your laptop is GX660R you want to use bios posted few pages back that I used myself for GX660R


@ debianik: I see your all fields are grayed which I reffer to locked unmodifiable. Where you see your multipliers 24 23 21 21 you should be able to raise the value there , that would mean you are allowed to release the beast from 920XM chip lets say just set all multipliers to 23 or 24 and run wprime or tstop bench and see how you cope with temps

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/524083-gx660-r-owners-lounge-232.html#post8927703
in this post is TS with 21 multipler but at this moment it cannot test with so high multipler because 1core goest to 100C and shut down :/

and of course fast testing
nfs most wanted fhd max graphic options before he drops to 18fps [and even litte more ] now biggest drops noted is 24-25 in collision when before it almost always get 18Fps
that's only 21multipler and game dont really used fully any of these cores

civ5 works better but stil [must be badly engine ]gpu shows 60-70% or even lower usage
but i feel that it reacts much better

max Wattage on the wall in game 170W

 

Phew, makes me feel better about my temps. Thanks Ultra, i will shave off 2mm when next weekend when I dremmel out a part of the back plate and fit a metal mesh for extra cooling.
Glad i dont have to re aplly the heatsink. It was VERY fiddly.

 

Ok as you went XM cpu way I would highly recommend the best thermal compound available and SOFT-POLISH to mirror shine cpu heatsink core plate that seats on top of CPU when fastened.
I have used Phobya He-Grease Extreme compound, expensive but works better than MX4. Also I havent tried but I heard very good things about ID diamond 24 carat.

I was able to run I think 21 x multipliers on all cores non stop for over 12h run with just turbo fan on, and back cover in place no extra cooling temps never hit more than 94c ambient room temp ~20-24c +

since you have applied it already I know its tight fit and you basically have to slide it under the side of the frame before it seats on the card, if you already have done this and thats your temps - DONT TOUCH A THING! DONT DO ANYTHING ANYMORE! JUST USE IT THE WAY ITS THERE AND ENJOY!!!

I thought you fitted it and its force touching the frame still, but I do remember it only touches it while you place it on, but after fitting its there perfectly and you should be able to see 1-2 mm gap now between heatsink pipes and frame where it used to touch when youve been fitting it. Nothing to worry about now!

 

soft-polish and new paste that the priority for me

but Im woonder why i suddenly getting some big differencies between cores- almost or exactly 20C difference thats not normal

 

Yes it worked perfectly... arrived next day too

 

thats so called a bad paste job! maybe your heatsink has been fitted un even not by the sequence, and maybe if you have replaced thermal pads on ICs and mosfets beside the heasink maybe you have used too thick pads ...

I suggest you fit the heatsink as many times as it needs, temperatures I had were never of more than 1-2 degrees max between cores!

 

Its DEFINIATELY still touching. As its forcing the case to bend outwards a little so it must be putting stress on the heatsink? I will take pics tonight to show you.

 

cool. if its the case one easy way of shaving off without taking out the heatsink is hot-blade, good choice is narrow hot knife preheat with candle or fire torch and slip in between where it touches

 

Perfect I will do it this way. Far easier!

Amazing thanks Davey.

 

Ive got a gx660r which has a 3 pipe heatsink. There is no way they would make the casing different round the heatsink area for the 2 / 3 heatpipe version. It is a very snug fit though.

 

i checked heatsink and it looks like I tighten the screw too much [one is good but two are too much]
then start ts bench, get the screw I fix on live
then final is below [repaste don't neede because is very good ]


1st time mounted 20C differencies between cores
after remount heatsink it near 10C
now after combinated with screws i get not the worst differencies and most important 23x not only 19x

edit
of course some day i will try to polish heatsink but now i can test that cpu

120W on the wall with 23x and ts bench on 4cores if someone interested