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    ~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Affirmative Inaction, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. genocidew

    genocidew Notebook Evangelist

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    guys any of you changed the lcd screen of your gx660r?? i cracked mine and looking for new screen replacement :(
     
  2. qloony

    qloony Notebook Guru

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    @genocidew

    Some of the forum members did change their gx660r screen. Mine is gx660 non R version and i changed mine. What do you need to know?
     
  3. genocidew

    genocidew Notebook Evangelist

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    i would like to know where can i purchase the screen from, how much and if possible i want to get a matte screen full hd :D

    also the process of dismantling it will it be hard?
     
  4. qloony

    qloony Notebook Guru

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    @genocidew

    Well if you aren’t looking for a specific screen brand or type, you can buy any from eBay or amazon. Just make sure the screen physical dimension, the type (LCD or LED) and the resolution is the same as your original ones.

    I bought my AUO B156HW01 v.4 from kuzotronic.com (forum id: barlow00); his service is excellent and he's well known in this forum. The screen is really rare and lots of fakes roaming around the net, so I was pretty critical on finding trustworthy seller. Fyi, its Matte Full HD LED with High Gamut Color.

    Dismantling the screen is actually pretty easy, compare to looking for the right screen and cable. You just have to be careful with the LVDS cable when you dismantling it, coz it’s really fragile.

    The LVDS cable is another thing you need to consider, some cable don’t support Full HD resolution or LED. Since your original screen already at Full HD resolution, you only need to check whether your original screen is LCD or LED. Some cables only support one type or the other.

    If you could, dismantle your screen and get the brand and type number, and find the datasheet from this link http://www.yslcd.com.tw/Docs.aspx , then compare it to what you want to buy, or simply give it to the seller and ask them for advice.

    Remember though, if you are looking for a specific brand and type, make sure to the seller to send you exactly what you ask, and not compatible ones. Just read around the forum to find some of the seller that forum members have had bad experience with.
     
  5. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    I'm a little late to the discussion, but in case you wanted pictures...

    Copper can't hurt either.
     
  6. qloony

    qloony Notebook Guru

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    @forge

    Which one is more helpful? The holes or the copper?
     
  7. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    You know what? I decided to deal with some dust a couple of days ago, and as my laptop is a desktop replacement, not a mobile device, I'm using it with the bottom removed. Boy, what a difference!! In my building they already turned the heat on, and my entire apartment is like an oven, because there´s no way to stop a little flux of hot air that keeps blowing from the convector 24/7. So the laptop was inevitably getting a lot hotter. Bottom removed, 10ºC drop. It´s reaching lower temps it used to do with air conditioning maxed out. Two minor problems: to fix the fan and to maintain the laptop stable, what I managed to do successfully. I'll have to buy some extra cans of compressed air, though. :rolleyes:
     
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    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Both would be optimum. Barring that, I'd say holes.
     
  9. ejvgold

    ejvgold Notebook Enthusiast

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    How do I get the turbo mode and the hotkey working after a fresh Windows 7 reinstall?
     
  10. childofsaturnmusic

    childofsaturnmusic Notebook Guru

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    There's a small partition dedicated to the native drivers that will allow all your touch-sensitive button settings to remain intact. Just make sure you don't reformat that small drive :).
     
  11. Holic

    Holic Notebook Guru

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    I just installed System Control Manager and updated my .net runtime for windows.
     
  12. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    Simply reinstall System Control Manager found in the provided CD of drivers and utilities.
     
  13. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Just finished installing my new LG screen and man is it a world of difference! I actually now have blacks!!

    Colors are great, viewing angles much better, and blacks... are blacks! :D :D :D

    Ken from GentechPC helped me obtain it, forgot the model for the panel tho...
     
  14. kokop

    kokop Newbie

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    Hi all,

    This is my first post with my brand new gx660 that I bought today. Here msi local sale making clearance stock for gx660 and I bought with 700 $.

    So, i start reading this thread from first page. 127 pages makee me nightmares. So I like to ask u guys for my laptop necessary things directly.

    What should I do for my laptop for the best performance for gaming and long live the laptop life?
    What kind of implementation, upgrading, tweaking are suitable for me?
    Please kindly help me in advance.

    Thank you.
    Best regard.
     
  15. Holic

    Holic Notebook Guru

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    i say just use general laptop care. dont do any tweaks and mods(unless there is a problem to begin with). MSI did a very good job designing this. it can play anything at 1366x768 all at maximum settings. it runs naturally cool and can maximize performance with a touch of a button.

    i downloaded MSI afterburner and assigned it to the P1 button. whenever im gaming i just keep a tab on temps. gpu runs very cool. the cpu gets hot 90C+ but only while playing bf3.
     
  16. kokop

    kokop Newbie

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    @Holic
    Thank you for your advise. Yesterday i tested PES12 and Fifa Manager 2012 with both Turbo and fan On around 3 hr. The GPU is around 55'C , sooo cool .
    Game play is dang great. I love it.

    But I got a problem when restarted the notebook after installing some windows updates, drivers. My touch pad is not working properly. Firstly i think that was driver issue then tried to re-install driver from Driver DVD and from msi web site. Secondly, i figured out that touch pad is not 100% problem because of Right click is still working and touch pad can use for pointing mouse but Left click is not working and tapping on the touch pad is not working too. I checked all drivers and synatic touch pad options Finally i understand that was the hardware problem and better to contact to local distributor.

    I feel so sad, cos today is Friday and here is 3 holiday till Monday. I need to wait till Tuesday in order to go local service.

    Thank you.
    Best regard.
     
  17. hybelkaninen

    hybelkaninen Newbie

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    anyone know if the 32600-004700-RS from ICPEA Industrial PC Accessories will work on my B156HW01 V.5 screen? my cable is broken and i need a new one. sorry if this is not supposed to be here!
    its a MSI GX660 non R
     
  18. Terabyte2000

    Terabyte2000 Newbie

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    Hello

    Does anyone know how to disassemble the Display cover?


    thx
     
  19. qloony

    qloony Notebook Guru

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    @terabyte

    you mean the bezel around the screen? you just pry it open, it doesnt have any screw, its a snap lock. just start from the sides, then the top, then lastly the bottom
     
  20. hexaae

    hexaae Notebook Consultant

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    Mmmh, the other day I've re-applied thermal paste to the 5870M GPU....
    Now I'm monitoring temps with GPU-z and HWiNFO or AIDA64 and they all report very high Temp #2 (GPU-z, VMEM for the other two) that can reach also 105°C!!

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Temp #1 never goes over ~70-77°C. What scares me are Temp #2 and #3 I didn't notice before, very high! I'm not even sure it's always been like this... so I'm asking you to confirm please, or probably I've to re-open and carefully check where's the problem... Thank you guys!
     
  21. Captain Razer

    Captain Razer Notebook Evangelist

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    thats weird! at least the fan should be 60% when the card gets THAT hot!
     
  22. hexaae

    hexaae Notebook Consultant

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    As you can see 'fan speed' has not been locked to MAX temp indicator while shooting in idle desktop mode (hence 30% load)... When you select GPU-z to show you MAX temp reached it will display those results. Obviously fan speed was higher while running.

    The question is: is it normal? Are those temp too high? Are the differences (10-20°C) between Temp #2 and #1 normal?
    Catalyst for example uses what GPU-z calls Temp #1 and so reports much lower temps... then I've noticed those other two high temps with GPU-z!

    Please post your sshots in idle, and MAX mode (after you played a game for 5-10mins).
     
  23. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Those temps differences are NOT normal and there was probably a mistake in the repasting. My temp differences are around 1 degree, not that much!

    you should check what went wrong because those temps are just too high. Even when overclocking I dont get over 85C with massive OC.
     
  24. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    Repaste again. What compound are you using? No matter, the method is the same: one pea size (maybe a little bigger than a pea, but A LITTLE) drop on the middle of the die, fix the heatsink and you are done. There's a problem with the popular spread method: chances are high you have air bubbles when you spread the compound. I've just repasted my GPU and CPU with IC 7 Carat using the pea method, recommended by the IC manufacturers. Incredible results!! Artic Clean 1 & 2 are very good as well, to remove the old grease and to prepare the surfaces for reapplication.
    Good luck.
     
  25. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Hey guys is there a particular VBios you use?

    Have any of you gone beyond 1.15v?
     
  26. hexaae

    hexaae Notebook Consultant

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    Mmmh... ok, thank you! I'll re-open/re-paste again then... maybe something went wrong sliding in the heatsink before applying...

    @ryzeki
    I've read you changed monitor too! That's great... Always wondered if can be done: about the original.. I like it's brightness and clarity but blacks are horrible (in particular if you want to see a movie switching off all lights) and top/bottom view angles actually scarce. Was it very complicated?

    @velho
    So you suggest to put a pea in the center and just remount the heatsink? Without spreading it over the die first?
    I've bought a Scythe 1000, some reviews said it was a little better then Arctic 5...
     
  27. hexaae

    hexaae Notebook Consultant

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    Repasted:
    [​IMG]

    Ok, now Temp #2, #3 are much better... anyway I still have a 10°C difference with Temp #1 and I think it's been always like this.
    Just like reported by Zelgradis here (pic): http://forum.notebookreview.com/7054917-post572.html
    Are you sure your difference is just ~1°C?
    I've seen the square chips (vmem?) on the gfx board have no thermal paste for me, just some thermal tape. Did you paste them too to the aluminum heatsink (just the part over the die is in copper)?
     
  28. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    Yes. When you spread with a credit card or any plastic or metal "tool", it's impossible to achieve a perfectly even layer, free of air bubbles. You can't see it with naked eyes. If you apply the pea drop and mount and screw the heatsink, its pressure will be enough to spread the compound evenly. It's not necessary to cover the entire die surface, as it's on the middle that the heat is concentrated. If you cover all the die first, maybe the compound will overflow when you screw the heatsink. Obviously a dumb*** like me hasn't figured it out by himself :D :

    Application

    What I can say is: it works and saves time.
    Have a good one.
     
  29. hexaae

    hexaae Notebook Consultant

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    Following your advice indeed this time I've used that technique... ;) Temp #2 looks good now (at least on par with the standards as reported by other users like Zelgradis). Thanks!

    Now waiting for other users reports about the difference (10°C?) between Temp #1 and #2 in GPU-z for our 5870M after a full load...
     
  30. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    You're welcome, dude. I'm glad to see that it's not a simple matter of luck. Because one thing is READING it works and bla, bla in a review, the other is to confirm by yourself and to get a positive feedback from a forum mate.
    What I liked about IC is the fact it doesn't need a time to cure. 10 min is enough. AS5, for instance, takes about 200 hrs to achieve its maximum cooling point.
    Problem solved! Now close your rig, have the "working man" canned :p and enjoy your awesome laptop!! This is what I tell myself when I start to pay too much attention to parameters and forget the purpose I bought the machine: to play and have fun.
    Take care.
     
  31. SoundOf1HandClapping

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  32. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    Man, thanks God his char is Soviet. Maybe he lives soooo far from here ;)
    Excluding the fact he is a little full of himself, his arguments are good. He just haven't noticed that one can apply some pressure on the heatsink as well, as I did, and thus I need to apologize to hexaae, as I forgot to mention this step. Well, it worked, at least for me and hexaae it did. But I'm not the truth holder, of course. Spread method may work, too, you are a living proof! :D In fact, maybe all methods work, and all that is said on the matter is just an endless ego battle. I made a mistake, because I spread someone else's ideas without even ckecking if it is really wrong. That's what all of us do all the time... we really don't know anything by ourselves, do we? Shame on me. :eek:
     
  33. hexaae

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    Figure 9-10 from the Link posted by Velho persuaded me that's the less risky method to avoid micro bubbles, and it works fine indeed. Scientifically tested with transparent plexigas experiments ;)

    My personal opinion: it may depend also on the thermal paste density, and the pea+squash method is probably recommended when the density is medium/high, but if your thermal paste is quite liquid probably the spread method is very good too.

    Still waiting for other users posting their GPU-z Temp #1 (displayIO), Temp #2 (VMEM) max difference after a GPU full load. Looks like this laptop has by desing VMEM running at +10°C, when in full load.... This means that tools like MSI Afterburner, Catalyst panel, HW-Monitor, etc. will report 70-80°C but VRAM is actually running at +10°C as reported by GPU-z, Aida64, HWiNfo etc.
    Maybe removing the thermal tape and adding thermal paste on those mem-chips too could lower the VMEM temp?
     
  34. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    Leave the thermal pad alone, pal. I almost removed it, but then I read a Forge's post right in time! :)
    It's very logical: if it's there, it must be replaced only by a new thermal pad. Where there is paste, put paste, where there is pad, put pad.
    By the way, are you having a blast with the laptop? This GPU may be just the 40º in the rank list ( http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html), but it's still a killer, isn't it?
    Take care.
     
  35. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    None at all! I was worried I might break the LVDS cable as everyone always says it should be done very very carefully so I was a bit paranoid. But to be honest, it was all fairly easy and simple. Removing the bezel was a breeze and the cable itself is the only "hard" part but it just require gentely removal of the yellow tape holding the cable in place, and a second tape holding the connector in place.

    This new LG screen is quite superior in every regard to the old AuO15 stock that came with the laptop. It has much better viewing angles, rich colors and actual blacks.

    I love it!
     
  36. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Waiting for my 6990M to arrive from Canada... I bought it for like £295 and plan to sell the old 5870M if all goes well.

    I am a little worried though - the procedures for installing it on a GX660R are the same as installing a 6970M... right? D:

    After all it is the same MXM 3.0 Type B card.

    By procedures I mean stuff like new PSU, decent thermal paste/tape, trimming heatsink a little, etc.
     
  37. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    If you search carefully on this forum you will find a guy who upgraded it. I can't really remember who. When you find him, send him a PM. I'm sure he will answer you promptly. People around here are really nice and supportive.
    Congratulations, by the way. Post here after a few days with the "monster" :D
    Have a good one.
     
  38. GeoCake

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    Haha, agreed - this thread has been great! I've never had to post because everything has been answered like numerous times. :)

    But I have searched and searched but get no results that include GX660R and 6990M. The 6970M is pretty well documented, and the thread for it is great, but like I said I've no idea if the 6990M is any different. Most likely it's more or less the exact same.. still, I wanna be sure I don't ruin anything.

    I noticed a guy on another thread upgraded his MSI GT683DX(R)/MS-16F2 to a 6990M but how different is that unit to the GX660R? - I think I will go and ask there :p

    Thanks!
     
  39. abaggie

    abaggie Newbie

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    Hi guys,

    Im trying to overclock my GPU, but to push more out of this in need to increase the voltage. I downloaded msi Vbios, broadwayfile and HP boot ulititle.
    Cuz I need to make a bootable usb stick but I'm stuck at making a bootable usb.

    The HP tool gets stuck at formating and won't work. So can any help me making a bootable usb stick so I can enter the files in dos.

    Thnx

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/561860-incresse-voltage-msi-gx660-5870m-3.html#post7277084
    (Followng this but stuck at step 1 as you could read)
     
  40. Holic

    Holic Notebook Guru

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    I was in a similar situation except I just didnt want to install one time use software. So I used a different computer to format the usb using HP usb tool.
     
  41. Talon

    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    GeoCake, I bought a 6990m from Canada as well. So it looks like we will be going through this experiment together. I think we bought from the same guy, did you get an OEM or ES? He didn't have any OEM left for me so I picked up an ES for $370 shipped. Seems like a good deal to me! I hope this thing will fit! Otherwise I'm screwed.

    Next upgrade is my screen to 1080p before I leave for the sandbox. Just have to locate that cable, get the screen, and my system will be complete for awhile!
     
  42. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    I got this one: ATI Mobility Radeon? HD 6990m GPU MXM 3.0 Type B | eBay

    And yes, it is a damn pricey experiment that will be pretty damn fubar if it doesn't work. Tbh the unit looks almost identical to the 6970M so it can't go wrong.. the only thing that worries me is that we might have to remove some 'back faceplate thingy' extremely carefully :/ Check this thread

    Anyhow, the next upgrade for me is the 920XM or 940XM.. which will be probably be in a while since I don't think my current 740QM will bottleneck the most powerful AMD mobile GPU out there :)p) that's if all goes well
     
  43. elisons

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    I replace my HD 5850m (is dead) for HD 4870m is working in MSI gx 640!!

    HD 6990M working in GX640 ?? is best VGA game!!
     
  44. hexaae

    hexaae Notebook Consultant

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    What's your exact display model (Aida64, HWiNFO etc. should report it...)?
    I'd like to change mine for a matte display, but with rich color/brightness and deep blacks...
     
  45. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Well I am sure there are some better displays out there, but this one is amazing on its own, and specially compared to the stock one. I literally love it specially since it didn't cost that much!

    the model is LP156WF1-TLC1 according to HWInfo.
     
  46. Keith

    Keith Notebook Deity

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    I can second that! :D
     
  47. abaggie

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    Hi guys,

    Got some questions,

    first of all I did increase the voltage but it keeps saying 1,05v. Im almost sure it was a succes flash. Because if I do it again its says ''already did this flash'' or somthing like that. So what went wrong? Followed the steps.

    Second question is I monitored my temps with 3 diffrent programs but wich one is the correct one or should I look at? (77 or 86c ??)

    Also GPU-Z doesn't monitor my voltage? (see picture bellow)
    [​IMG]
     
  48. hexaae

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    You have fixed choices. 1.05 (orig), 1.10, 1.125 should be accepted AFAICR (1.125 for sure, I'm using this)...

    Good question. I'm asking the same but nobody replied...
    Programs like Catalyst control panel, some benchmarks, HWMonitor etc. will report only what GPU-z calls Temp #1 ("displayIO", for Aida64 etc.). The fact is that GPU-z also monitors Temp #2 ("vmem" for Aida64 etc.) which is usually 10°C higher on this laptop!


    Quite strange: it should report voltage. It does for me and everyone else...
     
  49. ryzeki

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    Always take notice of the highest temperature. Mine has a difference of about 2 or so degrees C, so it doesn't matter much in my case. I confirmed it yesterday and I can probably post a picture tomorrow if needed.

    as for the voltage mod, I will have to check if any software mentions it. I know it was a success because I can oveclock way more and I literally consumed more power.
     
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    Hello,
    I have a question for those who upgraded their CPU to i7-920XM and i7-740M. I own GX660R with i5-460M CPU and I wonder will it give me some additional fps in Battlefield 3 if I upgrade it. Right now I'm running it in full hd on high settings with shadows on medium and AA and blur turned off and I get between 25-35 fps ingame which may be enough for campaign but not enough for multiplayer. Have you tried it yet?
    Also I wonder if my temp will rise significantly if I upgrade and will I need anything except new cpu to make it work?
    Sorry for my english, I'm from abroad.
    Thx guys

    BTW how much did you pay for your cpu?
     
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