***The Official MSI GT80S Titan (w/desktop 980 GPU's) Owner's Lounge***

Ummmmm, ok...... geez, I thought this forum was about a broad range of notebook topics...... and who is going to OC the CPU to max clocks for gaming or framerates, and continuously? Really? Especially given temps! Stock, this notebook is already a gaming beast, and needs no OC whatsoever for excellent gaming frame rates. Also, I know of no game which continuously stresses the system with max CPU clocks, or for that matter, no user who games under such conditions. Valuable info for you perhaps, but again, I see no realistic advantage in this whatsoever, other than testing the hardware's limits. Furthermore, as I have pointed out before, what value can be taken from such as this when there are NO TEST CONTROL STANDARDS.... which is one reason why I was curious about ambient temps, and cooler boost. Sure, users are welcome to risk hardware, warranty, burn their systems, or shorten system life if they like, but not I, and I do not recommend novice users engage in this. My point was.... leave this to the expert testing reviewer's, who have no vested risk, and do test with control standards. This info will be available soon enough, and invested users need not take on the risk.

 

people have different opinion, if you like to keep it stable for a machine worth several thousand dollars then yeah u could do that. i for one wish to push quite a bit over the top and its worth it, also define your term stable lol.

 

Well, personally, I'm OCing because for 30% of my use time, every last little bit of CPU power matters, and for another 50% it definitely helps a lot. Plus I'd hardly call 4GHz a crazy overclock or anything like that, especially since it's still undervolted 90mV. Besides, the main purpose of that test was just to see whether or not there was a TDP throttle, so it's not like I need perfectly reproducible tests with completely standardized environments.
I'm not sure what the ambient temps were, but I'd guess around 60-65F? I did have the fans on 747 mode though. I'd guess with a repaste I'd be topping out at around 85 or so across the board for non-P95 stress tests and 75-80 for typical uses.

 

hey meaker, got a few questions here the gt80s come with three M.2 slots which two are pcie NVMe SSDs and last one is SATA III right? what happened to the fourth M.2 SATA III was that removed?

what test did you run with to stress your cpu? prime 95 of which version?

 

Doesn't fit cause it overlaps with the other drives, which now have huge thermal pad bricks on them, so they removed it.

The screenshot you quoted is OCCT, not P95. I do have a P95 run from earlier in the thread where you can see the version, but it's only 4 minutes long because after that the power shoots up to 90+W and the temps get way too high.

 

Unityole, Please READ! I think you are probably bright enough to get the gist of the message, so why try to pick apart, and debate? Do you OC your CPU to MAX clocks and game continuously? There was no discussion of system stability. I have no problem with folks who desire pushing their system a bit.... but for many, this is best left alone.

 

The PCI-E drives get hotter than SATA ones so they added thermal pads and removed the 3rd slot in that area to reduce heat in the area.

 

There is no reason to even start to explain why your response isnt even proper. Some will value the info and others dont and thats all that needs to be said.

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i could say the same to you, read my sig? although not for this machine, i do for hobby and no not for frame rate, just general cpu performance is what im after.

i was wondering if its only a connector missing I can purchase part and add in 4th myself, as for it runs hot i got 1-2mm copper sink for it's controller as well as fijitsu xtreme cooling pad hope it'll help, unless theres no room at all. what are the chances of that happening? 4th M.2 connector or was it missing directly from the mobo, which incase I can solder it myself too if circuit still there.. like the msata in p570wm.

 

Agreed, no reason to explain.....

 

I like to Overclocking as much as the next man, but for this laptop you're not playing with it, you're playing with 6-7k dollars of hardware.

For me I'm into this thing for 7 grand... I take no risks with it lol

 

Well this is what i got with the demo version:

 

can anyone who have this machine do a crystal disk mark test with write cache enabled? i want to know if the 4k random write would increase the way regular SATA III SSD would under new chipset and IRST driver. i know for desktop, pcie nvme ssd does just fine but so far with laptop i have seen doesnt look like anyones done it yet.

 

Yes it was the demo for 3dmark 11. Both Video Card and CPU are over clocked.

Is this a good score?

 

YES, a very nice score..... about 1800 points above 'stock'. I also notice your temps are very good...... Did you use Cooler Booster throughout this test, or was this with the stock fan profile?

 

That was with the max fan on. When i have been over clocking I turn the max fan every time. I'd rather be safe than sorry The CPU got a little toasty at 87c but the gpu im not sure it is was even necessary to have the max fan on for the over clock.

 

is there some sort of fan adjustable software for this machine? aside from the max fan button that is.

 

I was talking about the max fan button. I do not use any fan program or anything. I'm not sure that you can if there is one available.

 

so its either system auto control, or we push that button eh

 

You can most likely use Silent Option from MSI, which I use with my current titan. It allows specific fan table, or a simple +20% slider.

 

I tried this and my system told me it was incompatible.

 

Woo! Finally found a thin enough cable to make this work! Both running at 6Gbps. One's mechanical still, but once those 4TB SSDs come out...

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@lichensoul Did you manage to pull off the bezel on the optical drive? I've managed to push out the little tab that locks it in place, but it still refuses to budge. D:

 

I did not get it off but I did not try all that hard as I did not want to damage the optical drive. I have a a "indention" where the optical drive should be.

 

Got it off! Just had to pull a bit harder. It totally felt like I was about to break it, but then it finally popped out. And now I also have a USB blu-ray drive.
Really wish that MSI would've made things simpler by just bumping up the optical bay to 6Gbps, since 2 of the M.2 slots dropping SATA support frees up the available SATA3 ports... still, happy that this workaround works!

 

hey for those who have raid 0 with PCIE NVMe SSDs sammy 950 pro, can anyone run a CDMark test with write cache enabled? I wish to see the difference between mobile chipset and desktop's z170.

looking for 4k random write, score should be around 350-400 MB/s with cache enabled settings in IRST, pls look at the screenshot below.

 

I think that's the first time I've ever been terrified of repasting. D: So incredibly worth it though!

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Notebook Check has their review up.

MSI GT80S 6QF Titan SLI Notebook Review

Thorough as always.

 

Stock core 1164. Hmm... needs @Prema. I'm still suspicious of throttling.


411 Watt




Key: min: , med: , max: Metrahit Energy

 

I apologize if I missed it, but is there any statements about the designed power usage? I mean 330w doesnt seem like enough, like that article and the poster above mentioned. I wasn't sure if MSI had both cards limited to 140w each leaving barely enough for the CPU and system to run fully on the stock adapter for any length of time.

I don't even care if there isn't enough headroom for overclocking but the stock adapter should allow for the system to run cleanly at stock clocks. Otherwise what is the point of such a powerful notebook if you can't get the full use out of it?

I didn't mind my P35X throttling a bit because it was a top level GPU in a thin chassis. This thing is huge though and if it throttled much you may as well go with the 980m SLI instead.

*One more quick question. Does this notebook use the feature where it drains the battery when more power is needed than the system can supply? I was never a fan of that as it caused a lot of battery usage while playing games on AC. I think it was a GT70 that did that.

 

Hey there guys,

I'm new here and a bit baffled right now. Originally I wanted to tell you how happy I am that I received my GT80s with it's 980 desktops. Now I read that review posted here and something caught my eye:

In the linked review they got a i7-6820HK paired with dual 980 desktops. I swear I was so pissed a few weeks back that MSI only offered the HQ processor for the top-end gfx model. Now my question is... did MSI recently change their mind about this or was it just my fault missing some information back in the day?

Both processors are even listed here now:
http://www.msi.com/product/notebook...H-ANNIVERSARY-EDITION.html#hero-specification

I'm on the verge of returning my HQ-model now, get back my 5000€ and probably just pass.

 

Load Intel XTU, and see what the Tuning Control sliders for the core multipliers range is.

The 6820HK OC is stable up to 40x, or 4.0ghz, while my 5950HQ will OC as far as 42x or 4.2ghz.

The 6920HQ should be able to OC to at least 40x, or 4.0ghz just like the 6820HK, so right there you are on parity.

You could try edging up to 41x or even 42x and see if it will run stable, at +-0mV (default) offset voltage - but for me I need +55mV for 41x and +110mV for 42x.

The 6820HK is actually much less expensive than the 6920HQ, so the 6920HQ is the premium model.

Give the Intel XTU OC a try, and don't give up yet

Here is a view of Intel XTU with everything at defaults except the multiplier sliders are set for 40x, 4.0ghz:

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XTU download
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-

 

Adding to hmscott's comment, users of 6920HQ swear that their system can hold the overclocks indefinitely so it seems, on the GT80, that both 6820HK and 6920HQ are TDP free.

 

good to know, but with enough voltage, would 6820hk capable of going over 42x?

 

I don't see why not. I don't think there are enough owners testing right now perhaps? Because it is literally unlocked. You could fry it if you want hahaha.

It should be not any weaker than any of the high end CPUs so far. What I don't know is how much voltage it would take to have it stable at higher frequencies.

 

Hopefully once @ mason2smart has his system we can sit down and do some testing to publish the limitations so everyone will know for sure.

 

thats the thing most dont push system and are satisfied with what they have, hence we are getting lower and lower performance product, also another good reason why desktop always gets better things aside from having just more space.

 

I couldn't agree more, if I am going to purchase a high dollar system it had better well be worth the squeeze and be able to spread it's wings otherwise regret sets in pretty quickly.

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xtu app isnt applying my slight overclock at startup is there a way to force it to apply the settings and boot up so i dont have to manually run the app everytime i restart the pc?

 

Well, I've got a bit of disappointing news for you then.
Even at stock settings, the cards are already bumping up against the 130W limit under load. You can get around that with a different vBIOS, but with everything going full throttle, you're going to hit the EC power limits pretty quickly. I would love to be able to get one of those Clevo adapters and another PSU, but from what I've been reading the power limits on the EC firmware are incredibly difficult to reverse engineer and modify, so I don't expect that to be possible anytime soon, if at all. On the other hand, if you're playing a game which doesn't support SLI, you can probably get away with upping the TDP cap on your card, as long as you're not afraid of burning out the VRMs.

 

Which is why I did not buy one, instead I purchased a product which has the ability and support to run modified EC/ME/BIOS/VBIOS to get around those limits. Now doing get me wrong as this post could be read in several ways and I do not wish it to be negative or reflective negatively to any owner, I think the GT80S desktop is a cool product for sure it just depends one the direction you wish to flip your wallet open too and how much modifications or overclocking you wish to have in your future.

In regards to you, its nice to see someone actually trying to test the products abilities because several others will search for the information to weight their decision on their next purchase.

 

Are you Save'ing a Profile after Apply'ing your settings? XTU uses the Profile's section to save and load settings.

So you would select a Profile, Apply the settings, and XTU if set to restart at Windows startup, will apply the Profile settings at every boot - until you crash - and then you need to start up XTU manually to reselect a Profile and Apply the settings.

 

I'm still quite happy with the product I purchased! Since the limiting factor for my GPU uses is number of compute cores rather than sustained power, the 33% bump is definitely worth the premium. For people mainly after gaming performance though, there's a very low ROI compared to the 980Ms, especially if you're willing to push the cards to their limits.

 

well we kinda expected that though, 1 psu wouldnt be enough, even if it did MSI likely to restrict it to some extent as their laptop by default comes with 1 PSU not 2.

but seriously.. desktop 980 at 130w limit.. ouch thats harsh

P870DM is a great machine, with GT80S removing another M.2 port loses yet another advantage to P870DM. if what katiecat mentioned is correct then dual 980 would be a waste may as well go for 980m. but then that 18" imho wins over 17 inch anyday.. doesn't seem to have just 1 machine that satisfy all needs.

 

I understand that was my main concern, moving from an 18 to a 17 with gsync and let me tell you in prob one day I couldn't tell any difference and it was mind blowing I honestly was staggered. The P870DMG display is so vibrant too along with the gsync I really have no regrets. I paid less and received more, this would not be possible though without @Prema, @Mr Fox, @johnksss though so buy from a Prema partner store if its even a consideration.

 

It was the right design decision to remove a port, most people were not really using it and it helps the two you are likely most interested operate even under load.

 

maybe they would need a redesign on that but i look forward to see what they have in the future 18 inch machine though it'd be nice to see cpu has its own 12v fan which msi doesnt really do that on their high end laptops.

 

It's a gaming machine at heart so focuses on the GPU cooling.

 

IMO MSI recognize that a 45w cpu is a lost cause and don't waste too much on them.

 

I'm getting the feeling most you guys want a lot out of this computer.

It's only a laptop ha-ha...

 

add that a super expenisve laptop lol. well cpu with higher frequency loads faster too mmmm