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    The Official MSI GT70-2OD Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, May 13, 2013.

  1. G0DfAtHeR

    G0DfAtHeR Notebook Enthusiast

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    Reputable dealer with MSI GT70 & GT60 2ODs in stock at a great price

    I found this and thought I would share.

    Here is a reputable dealer in business since 1987 and has the following latest MSI GT series in stock with free shipping:

    • GT70 2OD-001US I7-4700MQ 2X8GB 128GB + 750GB BLU-RAY 17.3IN W8 - $2208.34
    • GT70 2OD-019US I7-4700MQ 3X8GB 2X128GB + 1TB BLU-RAY 17.3IN W8 - $2400.47
    • GT70 2OD-039US I7-4700MQ 4X8GB 3X128GB + 1TB BLU-RAY 17.3IN W8 - $2592.58

    Do a web search for NothingButSoftware for the links.

    Less expensive than a lot of the dealers by $100 or so compared to what I have seen advertised for exact same models. :thumbsup:

    They also have the GT60 model:
    • GT60 2OD-026US I7-4700MQ 2X8GB 128GB + 1TB BLU-RAY 15.6IN W8 - $1938.66
     
  2. ryzeki

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    Oh, don't worry about that G0FfAtHeR, since resellers here pricematch and also have their own promotions/discounts like gentech with free ram :)

    The thing is, you can buy a laptop anywhere, but the support resellers give? Priceless :)
     
  3. kh90123

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    Hi all I am thinking of getting this GT70. Well either this or the Asus G750 or the Alienware new M17x, but I hate Asus' SKU. We need a $2k option on that. Then I will give my brother this Lenovo Y500 that I am using right now :D

    But anyway, I am wondering what ac connector is on the GT70's ac adapter. Is it the standard 5.5mm x 2.5mm DC plug? I have a Dell 240W ac adapter and an adapter cable and I hope it will work on the MSI.
     
  4. felix3650

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    Nice choise for a 17.3" the GT70 won't disappoint you ;)
    I went with GentechPC on my purchase (GT60). I can reccomend them on a personal experience. XoticPC and PowerNotebooks also based on their reputation here. The 3 of them offer great support for your product.

    Regarding the Dell adapter: Meaker did make a thread in which he showed how to modify it to make it compatible.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...ctor-around-lets-do-properly.html#post8847888
     
  5. kh90123

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    I don't want to modify it as of now because I already have the cable which converts from the Dell 7.4mm x 5.08mm connector to a standard 5.5mm x 2.5mm connector. After all I might still get the new 17inch Alienware, I just have to wait till E3 where it will be announced.

    I am curious if the Asus G750 will cool as well and as quiet as the GT-70. From reading first impression on Notebookcheck seems like it's not bad.

    Nvm, I found out that both MSI and Asus use the same dc connector. It's standard 5.5mm x 2.5mm so I will be fine.

    I also wonder how a higher power ac adapter will work with the NOS function on the GT-70. Anyone tried this out yet?
     
  6. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    That's a good question, I wonder how the laptop measures the max output of the PSU it can demand.
     
  7. WhatsThePoint

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    IMO MSI didn't want to have a larger/heavier power brick like a Delta 230W since many have complained about the size and weight of the 180W Delta 180HB B.

    Thus they opted for the NOS.

    I think most 17.3" gaming notebook owners don't buy them for portability so I'd have liked a 230W brick instead of NOS.

    How much extra power can be drawn from the battery while gaming remains to be seen but it's certainly not good for battery longevity over the ownership time.

    NOS sounds a lot like a marketing gimmick.
     
  8. iceman25c

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    Looks much better now, Fire Strike errored out. Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-1763

    Thanks!!
     
  9. Hellblade

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    You guys are lucky, I've still got to wait :(
    My reseller says they don't have an ETA for the (AU) models yet, but it'll probably be a few weeks.
     
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    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    felix3650 Notebook Evangelist

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    Does the Intel AC offer THAT much performance over a KillerN 1103 450Mbps? :)
     
  12. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes, considerably more, but don't forget you'll need a wireless-AC router too..... like the Netgear 6300 (which is very nice, BTW). PLUS, it's a BT Combo card, wherein the Killer-N 1103, is not.

    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260

    Here's a place showing 200, In-Stock:

    Computer Consumer, Rocklin, California $31.32 (OEM Brown Box)

    ALSO, Ken ( GenTechPC) is showing these as an available upgrade, for only $15.00!

    :)
     
  13. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thanks, that's more like it :) I'm not in a rush or anything, I'll wait and see if there would be AC-73xx (3rd antenna probably) and if it's going to be Bluetooth-less, like the current top offering 6300AGN.

    I've played with the configurator, saw the price, it's really nice, but requires a $2000 machine as well :D
     
  14. Axell

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    Hi! new member here, and waiting for my GT70 20D and my regret on choosing this vs other brands is completely gone after reading all of this wonderful infos and posts from u guys,,
    btw i have a question, a local shop where i order this gives this spec to me, and from what i have been reading, there is no configuration like this, shame it was too late,,

    750GB HDD + Super Raid 2x64GB,
    NVIDIA GTX780M,,

    that ssd is the most confusing part
     
  15. colatruck

    colatruck Notebook Enthusiast

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    Welcome Axell (Im kinda new myself)

    Your local shop must have switched out the ssds themselves to be able to offer it at a certain price or something along those lines. If your happy with it just make sure you do a complete once over of it once you get it and return it if anything is amiss.
     
  16. felix3650

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    Those 2x 64GB SSDs suffer a bit in regards to a single 128GB unit. The notebook comes with 3 mSATA slots by default. US SKUs have a single 128GB drive in them. And you can choose between a 750GB 7200rpm hdd or a 1TB 5400rpm one. Don't worry about it :)
    You can get better and higher capacity SSDs if you want and swap with the old ones. That should give you a nice boost down the line ;)
    If you got it for a good price keep it. It won't disappoint you!! :D
     
  17. Axell

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    oh wow very fast reply ;D! thanks all gurus,
    oh i see, its swap-able huh,, its great news then thanks ;) yeah im sory im just new regarding all this ssd thingy, yep the price works out for me and this is my first time buying an msi and i know i wont regret it, (used to rule alienware, but the high price hits my wallet hard)
    MSI rocks!
     
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    Welcome aboard Axell, you won't be disappointed :) MSI has gotten better and better lately, and seeing all the news in computex, I think they are aggresively fighting for the best single GPU gaming machine in most, if not, all, possible categories.

    I wonder how other manufacturers will respond. Competition is good!
     
  19. MidnightTundra

    MidnightTundra Notebook Guru

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    About to purchase the new GT70 but I have a question. If the reseller has to remove the warranty sticker to fulfill my ordered customization of the laptop, is my warranty actually void? I've been reading conflicting stories on the subject so I'm unsure. I've read that "it's there for a reason" and some others have said that MSI doesn't mind as long as there isn't internal damage.

    Any clarification would be awesome :).
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    If you have anything customized by resellers your warranty still stands, as the resellers respond to MSI.
     
  21. MidnightTundra

    MidnightTundra Notebook Guru

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    Awesome, thanks for the quick clear up.
     
  22. felix3650

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    Even if you do it yourself it won't void your warranty as long as you don't physically damage any internal components. Confirmed by MSI technician and also customer service to me on a phone call I did some months ago. I don't think anything has changed ;)
     
  23. gschneider

    gschneider Notebook Evangelist

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    Just seen these for pre-order in the UK now

    over clockers.co.uk

    GT70 2OD dragon edition 4930MX, 780m, 16gb, 3x128gb msata+750gb HDD. £3399.95
    GT70 2OD-099UK 4770MQ, 780m, 16gb, 3x128gb msata+750gb HDD. £2399.99
    GT70 2OD-200UK 4770MQ, 780m, 16gb, 2x64gb msata+750gb HDD. £1999.99
    GT70 2OD dragon edition 4770MQ, 770m, 16gb, 128gb msata+750gb HDD. £1699.99


    Only thing is I cant find the 4770MQ on intels site so I am assuming they mean the 4700MQ. The 4930MX is interested in the Dragon system, It commands a £1000 extra price tag for the extra processor and the red dragon design.
     
  24. felix3650

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    Certainly a typo. 4770MQ is 4700MQ ;)
    The extreme model costs almost half of the notebook's price :p
     
  25. WhatsThePoint

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    The 4770 and 4770K(unlocked) are desktop Haswell Socket 1150 CPUs
     
  26. Axell

    Axell Notebook Enthusiast

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    okay after bit of reading, found out ssd have a lifespan! (sory im just new into this ssd thingy),, so will bigger size gives better lifespan?,, all i know is that it depends on amount of write/read, any way we can check this?
     
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    Not really related to MSI but since I am watching the MSI closely I will reply.

    Your laptop will die before the SSD dies, if you get a decent SSD. I only had Intel and Samsung SSD, none has given me any problems. I prefer Samsung though.
     
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    I have pre-ordered the the option highlighted in the quote above.

    When I am looking at the RRP from MSI, and peering at e-tailers across the atlantic, I can't help but feel that these units are somewhat over priced, even after VAT and import duty has been paid. What are other peoples views on this? Are any of you in my position and if so, would you look to import the laptop?
     
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    Things to consider.

    1. Laptops are not subject to duty, only vat + handling charge.
    2. Msi give you a 1 year global and 2 year local warranty. So a machine from the us gets you 1 year.
    3. Shipping is in the 150 dollar range for these machines.
     
  30. MatTheCat

    MatTheCat Notebook Consultant

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    And if I were to cancel my order at OcUK, and order instead say from your company, how long would I have to wait until my laptop was put together and shipped.....and then how long on average would shipping to the UK take?
     
  31. gschneider

    gschneider Notebook Evangelist

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    If your in the UK stick with things from the UK, as if it breaks you stand more protection rights in the UK with there warranty. Also if you buy it from outside UK as Meaker says you only get 1yr warrenty not 2yr.

    If anything I think the £2399.99 is good value.

    I am still waiting on my Alienware M18x-R2 and its costing me £3150. inc vat.

    Though in total its cost me more as I added hard drives myself, got a 18inch backpark, mouse and an extra charger. Its more like £3550.

    It was one of the reasons I was looking at MSI, I can afford to upgrade every 3yrs at £3500 a laptop. Or I can upgrade every 2years at £2500 a laptop.

    I like to get my monies worth of out a system. £1000-ish a year is okay. I could upgrade yearly but I think that doesn't equate to getting any value from a system seeing as laptops are hard to sell on for a reasonable price.


    I am debating still if its good value to have 680m Sli and 3740qm or get a 4700mq and single 780m.
    my only real concerns are battlefield 3 and 4 when released. I want 60fps and ultra settings. After all why bother to game at all if you can't see it the way it was intended.

    Also I like the design of the MSI over the new Alienware if that design is true.

    Its something I find unique about consoles the game is as intended regardless of hardware. Though I can abide consoles at all.
     
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    Absolute Beast MSI ^^, however the price is slightly higher than a CLEVO/M17r5 (I suppose) with the smae config,

    I'll wait for the 15" cheaper declination.
     
  33. gschneider

    gschneider Notebook Evangelist

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    Currently I have an M18xR2 on order. I canceled my M17xR4 as I felt a single 680m wasn't enough. Also 15inch is to small to a gaming laptop in my opinion.

    I got 680m SLI as I wanted to top a single 780m.

    I could never bring myself to own a Clevo there like the McDonalds of gaming laptops everyone re-sells there stuff which only leads me to one conclusion there cheap.

    I am Wonder what the new M17x-R5 or M18x-R3 will be. I am just not won over by the new design pictures it seems very square and lacking flair. No real thing makes it look different from MSI, or Asus so it makes me wonder if its false economy now. Saving money and getting a single 780m system and upgrading more often or getting 680m SLI system and upgrading less often.

    I am not into vbiosing my system just straight software overclocking for me, I know I can eek out more performance from my 680m's.
     
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    Hi everyone, I'm totally new to MSI, and gaming laptops in general.
    Was going with Sager (NP9370) until they ruined the design complitely, so I had to change my order and I thought MSI was a decent option so I went for - MSI GT70 2OD-019US - which I am extremely happy about now, since I read all the good comments in here :)

    My order from XoticPC just went into production, and now this 'waiting' process begins :)
     
  35. MatTheCat

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    @gschneider

    Everything about the tone and content of your posts suggests to me that you are not someone from whom I would take either laptop buying or financial advice from in general.
     
  36. gschneider

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    @MatTheCat, thats fine I am not giving you my advice on laptop buying or financial advice.

    I am asking for other peoples opinions of value against performance vs. what I am after in a laptop.

    If your gripe is at my Clevo comment then this really is the wrong area of the forum to take issue with,this is after all the MSI section. That said this is just my opinion I am sure they are fantastic machines but in my opinion I simply do not like them, in my visual opinion they look cheap. Especially when compared to MSI or AW. I would never disrespect a person for there choice if they did go with Clevo as it might be that it suited there taste better.
    They after all might feel that AW is cheap build yet overpriced. From a business point of view you have to understand that resellers are buying from Clevo so they have to be able to make a profit, there are more companies taking a profit slice therefore the components need to be of least expense to maximise profit.

    example: Reseller - Clevo - parts manufactures. All these companies need a profit slice compared to.
    Alienware - parts manufactures.

    I respect both MSI and Alienware for their products, I am asking opinions of owners on here for there point of view on the MSI laptops they own vs Alienware. In a performance per £ scenario. While you must appreciate that I am not simply going to throw my money away, however much or little I have of it.

    Given that your only post to myself of the 4 you have, has been to subject me to a derogatory comment about my financial or technical intelligence, I find this highly insulting and wish you all the best in your future endeavours. I do hope that this post has enlightened you to some key Business attributes and you feel humbled by the growth in knowledge base you have just received.

    Take care and all the best
     
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    I don't like Clevo either....nice sleek plain looks, but lousy build quality...shocking track pad and awful sound.

    But myy comment was more aimed at your blurting...

    " But 2500GBP is a good deal!" Based merely on the fact that you are opting for some form of überoverpriced Alienware configuration at 3500GBP.

    2500GBP is not a good deal if I can take my custom to the states and after VAT, shipping, and customs fees, can get the exact same thing for some 350-400 GBP cheaper. Oh, I lose 1 years worth of warranty? As though I have ever used warranty much beyond the 1-3 months mark on any computer device or component. So for the OcUK laptop to be a good deal, in your eyes 400GBP for an extra years warranty must be a good deal....

    "EXTENDED WARRANTY! HOW CAN I POSSIBLY LOSE!?"

    You give the impression of an obsessive gamer whose wallet is burning a hole in his trouser pocket. Just not the sort of person I would take PC buying advice from....no offence intended.
     
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    first of all sorry for my english
    i really need help in this so please if you know anything about it just help me
    i am from saudi arabia and i want to buy GT70 from Amazon Amazon.com: MSI G Series GT70 2OC-065US 17.3-Inch Laptop (Black): Computers & Accessories
    the question is does the laptop come with a global warranty?and for how long one or two years?
    fdg.png
    is these locations where you take your laptop to if it get failure so they will fix it for you because you have the global warranty,right?
    I captured the picture from this link MSI Global - Global Warranty Service
    I know it may sound stupid but you know this laptop cost 1400$
    so please any evidence?
     
  39. ryzeki

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    I have used the Alienware M18 and M14 variants. Personally, while I like their overall build quality, I personally don't think I would go for their price. My main concern has always been performance and price. MSI not only has excellent performance and price, but their build quality, support and overall products have been outstanding.

    My initial thoughts on buying MSI were that maybe I was skimping out on something, but I got great build quality, great temps, great sound, great screen and great performance at an amazing price.

    I would only consider alienware for the crossfire or SLI setups, but that's only because only them and Sager make those.
     
  40. gschneider

    gschneider Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Ryzeki:

    My 18x is this
    Nebula Red,
    i7-3740qm,
    16Gb (2x8gb) 1600mhz ram,
    Dual 2gb Nvidia 680m,
    Killer Wireless 1103,
    Blu-Ray,
    Windows 8 Pro
    500GB 7,200rpm HDD (I shall be removing from day one)
    3year next business day warranty
    3year Accidental Damage cover.
    Cost £3150

    Also bought myself
    256gb Samsung 840 pro SSD,
    750GB Seagate Momentus XT,

    bringing the cost to £3418.

    so for pretty much £1000 more than the MSI GT70 (with 780m) I got an extra 680m, 1 extra inch of screen, 3 yr Accidental cover and a further year of warranty.

    Its still in pre-production so its not like I cant cancel it if needed.

    Concerns are longevity of system say 2-3 years playing all things on Max, BF4 and BF3.

    Thanks for your help
     
  41. Breyl

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    Am I right to understand that you measure prices in (£) ? I ordered my MSI for $2700 but thats with upgraded screen, overclocking / boosts that XoticPC offer - dont understand why your prices are so high oO
     
  42. gschneider

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    Yeah I measure in £ as I am in the UK.

    We only have limited resellers here in the UK. Also our VAT is 20% so that doesn't help.
     
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    VAT and limited competition.
     
  44. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    My GT70H-80M4811B just shipped today so i should have it in a couple of days.

    Already got some Vengeance 16GB KITs and a couple Samsung 830 and Crucial M4 SSDs waiting for this beauty ;)!

    The MSI reviews just impressed me enough (and Clevos disappointed on the other hand) to switch over this time round. I hope i made a sound choice :)...
     
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    I don't think an owner of either would feel hard done by.
     
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    Unless the AC adapter cord to the laptop has 3 wires in it, negative positive and data, I don't think the laptop knows how it is getting power. So, a higher capacity AC adapter won't help anything, Hybrid power (NOS) will still kick in at 180w power consumption or higher probably.

    Does anybody that has the model with the 780m want to whip out the kill-a-watt meter and measure power consumption with furmark+prime95, just one or the other, and just gaming? Eco-off and Eco-off->gaming mode?
    Then we can assume an AC adapter efficiency of about 85% and then we know how much power the laptop is consuming and therefore how much headroom there is if any. Battery charging would obviously throw the numbers off.
     
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    Evanescent Notebook Deity

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    Finally got my GT70 2OD Dragon Edition. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the keyboard. Feels much better than that of the Alienware.
     
  48. BlackGhost

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    any one, please help
     
  49. felix3650

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    For us non-US customers buying in the US warranty is only one year. Two years is offered only for the country you buy your notebook in. If that service point is listed as authorised at MSI's website I think you should give them a call just to confirm. Usually MSI service centers are only service depots. These means you ship them your product. Then they send it to the central service point for repair/replace. After that the repaired/replaced unit gets shipped back to you. At least in Italy it works this way. You ship the defective product to the service depot located in Milan. Then they ship it to Poland (central MSI service center). Once processed it gets shipped to you from Poland.
    However as I said before give them a call just to confirm and be sure before purchasing :)
     
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    Hi guys! so my 20D arrived finally just now :) n agreed on the keyboard feels much much better than alienware,,, okay so I check the system properties on dxdiag, n it for the display part, it shows intel HD 4600,, ok I know that this thing does have 2 cards equipped, one is the intel, and another is the gtx 780,, my main concern is,, do we choose the main primary card, or will it only switch to the secondary card when we're on battery mode?,, right now im using AC mode without the battery
     
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