The Official MSI GT70-2OD Owner's Lounge

I hope so for our sake

 

Fast sequential transfers is not the same as snappy. What speed the SSD is capable of doing on the 4K-512K sizes and latency time is what decides if a SSD is snappy or not.
But I`d love to try out Raid 3 x mSATAs. Loading big maps in games is one scenario I can think of where the new Raid system comes in handy

 

So with all this being said; what would you guys say is the "better" SSD then? Is the 840 pro no longer the best option?

 

Samsung 840 Pro in normal scenarios like booting up the laptop, shutting down, opening programs, multitasking etc will be just as fast, if not faster than that Raid configuration by MSI. After all, its the fastest SSD out there right now.

Raid0 will beat 840 Pro when loading big maps in games, transferring files from and to the SSD, working on big files/projects. If you choose to Raid the fastest mSATA SSDs, you will have a pretty quick setup. I don`t think MSI ship the very fastest mSATAs with the GT70.

 

The samsung 840 pro is a great SSD for general. the difference in loading times from raid setup to a 840pro will be minimal, because the raid 0 super extra speed will come in handy with much more demanding workloads that the average user never needs

I want the GT70 right nowwww so much I want to test!

 

Sorry, that was a joke and a tease on my part..... my excitement and anticipation talking, but it would be nice, wouldn't it?

I think the 'better' option really depends on the individual, and your usage of the notebook. If you are purchasing the notebook solely to game, perhaps the Samsung SSD is a better way to go. Folks promoting this are really focused on the 4K benchmarks, and without such benchmarks, I do not believe the 4K differences will be in the realm of real-time human perception. There will always be those who question a manufacturer's configuration, hardware choices, or intent..... and always those to say how it could be better. I believe more in a balanced approach. If you are looking at the overall picture, will be working with large files, such as video editing, compiling, etc., and you wish to take full advantage of the HM87 chipset, then I would suggest going with Super RAID 2 (x3 SSD's in RAID0). Either way, your system is sure to be SMOK'IN HOT (and 'snappy', LOL!) with the latest tech.

Admittedly, I am optimistic regarding Super RAID 2, because MSI did an outstanding job with it's first round of SuperRAID (HM77 chipset & x2 mSATA SSD's in the GT70 0NE), but at present we are dealing with unknowns. You see, the performance measure of the 840 Pro is pretty much a given, but as with Super RAID 2, we still do not know which SSD's will be utilized, and have no solid benchmarks to reference. Super RAID 2 will be a good thing in theory, but if the original equipment SSD's do not measure up, watch how fast I swap those puppies out! Again, MSI is focused on our interest, they did a great job in the last round, and I have every reason to believe the GT70 2OD will be their best weapon yet.

ME TOO! I CAN FEEL IT..... I CAN TASTE IT! Soon Brother, SOON! LOL!

 

I can imagine you smelling the @ss (vents) that exhaust the 780m XD.

Edit: I meant "imagine" not "imagining".

 

AHhhhhhhhhhh, yes, it's wonderful, isn't it? Such aromas......

 

hahahaha Striker you're one of a kind

 

hahahaha the worst part is that I do that to test for temperature hahaha Just to check nothing is burning I swear!

 

I actually kinda like the smell of new unused laptops.

 

Lol be careful or your GT70s will take restraining orders out against you

 

Unless he has a kinky GT70 XD

 

Well it's about time MSI put alienware in their place

 

I don't think we are allow to do that.

 

This is a lot of scrolling, about 30 pages worth, but lots of fun

 

MSI forums seems to be more of a brotherhood than other forums, way more relaxed atmosphere. I like it !

 

I'm not talking about forum pages *presses page down* gotta love that blank arrow

 

Hahaha, These are some lively forums. But man, this is somewhat recent. I still remember how barren these were when MSI didn't have many GT/GX series laptops. They were almost unheard of.

I wonder if MSI will ever plan for a dual GPU laptop? they could certainly make one hell of a beast!

 

I'm afraid of the price of such a notebook
MSI is competitive because it offers many unique things for what it asks
It would enter in Alienware and High-end Clevo territory.

 

Hey I would not argue with another dual GPU barebone option.

 

I'm with Meaker on this one. Sure they would be directly competing with AW and some Sagers, but hey, competition is good

I always had a thing for the old Asus W90, even if it wasn't a successful machine. It was a nice try but instead of ironing out the issues with dual GPUs, they went away with it and focused on single.

Now, I traditionally prefer single GPU solutions, but I wouldn't mind the option for dual GPU, specially with how awesome MSI has been releasing machine lately.

 

I sounded like I was blaming MSI
What I really meant was: I hope it does not go as high on price as Alienwares and dual-gpu Clevos. A dual-gpu with Dynaudio, Turbofan and the mSata RAID would be great!! Sorry for the misunderstanding guys

 

I am sorry if it seemed like I was attacking or something, not at all! I do understand your point and it's correct, that the price of such a machine would be higher. But for now we can only dream

Dual GPU with multiple monitor support? *drools*

 

The new clevo one with thunderbolt could offer that.

 

Oh I thought that multiple monitors was purposedly disabled by nvidia/AMD with certain brands. I mean I think even my HD5870m already offered eyefinity support but I couldn't really game on multiple monitors.

 

I find mSata Super raid idea pretty lame

I rather go crucial m500 960gb

 

He1p, are you really interested in this notebook? Please say, 'No'. (I know this guy has a reason for leaving his GT780/783 sandbox)

MSI will have GT70 2OD models, with and without SuperRAID. It's really simple...... buy one without!

 

Heh, I'd probably never shoot as high as dual GPU... unless they release a dual #970m for AMD and if AMD's Enduro becomes as good as optimus. To be honest; I think a 2x 8970m would cost the same as one 780m given nVidia's stupid pricing xD

 

Dual card systems dont support optimus or enduro as they saturate the pci-e bus too much.

 

It would be cool if it was possible to completely turn off one of the cards at a push of a button and only run off of the other(with optimus/enduro). Then you get the best of both worlds, able to run both GPUs and be a beast, or actually get more than 20 min of battery life.

 

Thats what you can do on the m18x.

 

Most likely they have been trying to work on that for some time. As thye develop a sustainable solution, they will introduce it. Maybe like Optimus Plus or something like that.

 

Updated the OP (No.#1 post) a bit..... much more to follow, so stay tuned!

Enjoy!

 

This NOS feature seems a bit odd. It probably means that the laptop would be shipped with a lower rated PSU, but when extra juice is required it would get it from the battery. While it would be lighter from transportation point-of-view, it would be pretty hard on the battery. If you game heavily you can expect ~20% battery wear after half a year. That's just my opinion. The current GT70+GTX680 PSU is 180W. We'll see soon.

 

The PSU is still 180W..... NOS is a new improvement feature, and this does not mean a lower rating. Also, NOS and better power management aids in the prevention of throttling.

 

It would be interesting to see it in action then. So, if you overclock HEAVY this would save you from looking for more powerful brick. That's nice

 

NOS... hmm hope there's more info on this. It seems weird that we'd need to drain from the battery while on charger. And as the guy above me said; wouldn't that incur unnecessary battery usage and drain?

 

Well, since -=$tR|k3r=- confirmed that it's going to be 180W PSU, it would use the battery far less, than if it was say 150W. If you don't overclock it is possible that it wont use it at all. We shall see. Among all of the features I'm pretty interested how this particular one would work in real-life, since we already know what to expect from the rest.

 

Hmmm depending on how aggresive the overclock is, it might diminish battery life as if you normally use it unplugged. I guess this feature was designed this way becayse these desktop replacements are used far less as mobile laptops than stationary, so they can use the extra juice for a good oc!

Since the only thing that would drain the battery is the OC itself, let's say you require extra 15watts due to OC, the battery can last well over 5 hours easily gaming continously OC'd and it would just count like a single discharge.

It's an interesting feature!

 

On theory yes, but the load is not constant. Even if you do overclock to a given level, the watt meter still jumps through the digits depending on the actual load. Same as the frame rate, you can't get constant 60FPS for example - it would drop a bit here, it would increase a little there. The battery MUST have pretty good management, just as the SSDs, in order to decrease the uneven wear. As I said I'm pretty interested how it would turn into the real world.

 

So is this an enhanced version of TDE or completly different?

 

there will be a different version TDE + a easter egg.

 

Oh Ken your words are so mysterious
You sort of answer questions but then add more intrigue, can you explain how NOS works if you know.

 

when is it coming out and how much

 

Soon..and don't worry for the price

 

-=$tR|k3r=- you are the man! You got me checking for updates on this everyday. This is defintely the next gaming laptop on my list.

 

MSI is going with Sandisk mSATA SSDs this round

I'm curious, is it possible to update the firmware of the SSDs in a SuperRaid setup?

 

Well, keep checking, because I am thinking this glorious battleship will sail (pun intended) early June..... SOON! If you want to be one of the first to be on-board, I'd suggest getting with your favorite reseller.

Sandisk? This was not the case in the last round of US SKU's, but if so (depending on the Sandisk model used), they should still perform to levels advertised. If performance is not to my liking, watch how fast I swap these out. We'll see SOON!

As far as firmware updates, this will depend on the SSD manufacturer. Firmware updating was not available for the MemoRight MS-701 SSD's, while it was with other manufacturers.

 

They use Sandisk SSD X100 series this time.

They use Sandisk SSD X100 series this time.

It's a hidden overclocking feature that is not officially supported by MSI but it's there. MSI will not mention this feature and I am sure -=$tR|k3r=- will figure it out how to enable this hidden feature.