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    The Official MSI GT62VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Talon, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Talon

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    After some digging it looks like the MSI GT 15.6" in flavor is making a return in the form of the GT62 VR edition. This appears to be an actual GT62 and not that unbranded barebones with a desktop CPU that we've seen in the past. An official GT62! So far I've seen 2 SKUs with the 6700HQ and 6820HK but GPU and screen is unlisted.

    Other laptops inbound include the GT72VR, GS73/63VR, GS43VR, and GE72/62VR.

    Hopefully we know more soon, but good news for anyone that wants the 15.6" GT chassis back.
     
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  2. Kevin

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    Where is this info coming from, exactly?
     
  3. Talon

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    Look on the internet and search it. Welp looks like its been removed.
     
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    GS43VR

    Take my moneez.

    Edit: Actually I have reservations that 'if' it comes with a GTX1070m it 'may' not be as good as my overclocked 980m :(

    Edit2:

    GT62VR
    GS43VR (no dynaudio??)
    GS63VR
    GS73VR
    GT83VR

    Hmmmm.
     
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    Yes I posted these photos earlier but decided to remove them after I realized that maybe they weren't exactly public info yet? Its sort of a weird site and seems like a backdoor or something to an MSI page. Either way it looks damn sexy. Seems like there will be a GT63 as well. MSI is smart to go back to the 15.6" chassis IMO. Those 17" and above laptops are ridiculous to lug around, even the GT series is depending on weight. At that point just get a laptop for work, and build a desktop for home. It's a niche market but I can't see how it's very profitable.

    The website I use to sort of track up coming SKUs has already removed them. My guess is someone saw this thread and someone got yelled at for posting them.

    http://www.startlr.com/msi-is-preparing-to-release-a-new-gaming-notebooks-gt-vr/
     
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    A GT63? Does that 3'mean it's a 15" SLI machine? Whoa if so.
     
  7. MiSJAH

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    Incremental model numbers, nothing to do with SLI.


    Edit: Spec for all new models (well to some degree) available here.
     
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    why no desktop cpu model? this makes me very sad.
     
  9. Talon

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    Nice! My vendor source showed the model numbers yesterday but they have since removed them. It didn't list the specs or GPU though, only CPU actually. Seems 1060 and 1070 is going to be offered in the GT62 which is fine with me as long as the 1070 spanks the 980m and desktop 980. It should as the 1070 desktop keeps up with a 980 Ti. I would assume we will get a slightly cut down 1070 and not a full 1070.
     
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    I've only seen the GS43 listed with the GTX1060m, that's a disappointment as I wanted to drop down from the GT72 in size yet keep performance. Sad times. (May go for a GT62/3 if the GTX1070m stock hits 10k+ on firestrike).
     
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    That GT62/63 looks a tad thinner than the older GT60 models and defnitely thinner than the Gt72 so I am hoping it comes in around 5.5lbs or less. My current laptop weighs around that and is easy to trek around with me on 3 and 4 day trips. I am aiming for the 1070 GT62/3. I think we will see it soon.
     
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    More than that it has a more uniform thickness distribution back-to-front. The GT60 is thicker on it's back and thinner in front, making it a bit of hassle for those who like to use a backpack as you have to store it from the side rather than vertically. A compromise one has to make when considering lugging around this notebooks :rolleyes:

    Let's see if some more additions can be made to the GT60/GT70 upgrade thread :p :D
     
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    GT62VR some available options:

    NB-MGT62V7Q6H GT62Vr-6rd i7Qu+1060+H+16
    NB-MGT62V7Q6HD GT62Vr-6rd i7Qu+1060+H+Dw+16
    NB-MGT62V7Q6HDT GT62Vr-6rd i7Qu+1060+H+Dw+Tob
    NB-MGT62V7Q7H GT62Vr-6re i7Qu+1070+H+16
    NB-MGT62V7Q7HSB GT62Vr-6re i7Qu+1070+HS+Bw+16

    And specific RU models:

    GT62VR 6RE(Dominator Pro)-048RU Intel Core i7-6700HQ, 2.6GHz 16GB(8GB*2)
    GT62VR 6RE(Dominator Pro)-047RU Intel Core i7-6700HQ, 2.6GHz 16GB(8GB*2)
    GT62VR 6RE(Dominator Pro 4K)-029RU Intel Core i7-6820HK, 2.7GHz 32GB(8GB*4)

    3 above direct from http://amigo.msi.com/specification_black.aspx
     
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    Going back a little bit here on the posts... but that "GT62" barebones was odd with the desktop CPU, as not any of the other models offered that. Not sure why just one model lineup got that, and none others (or if it will be returning in future models).
     
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    Kaby Lake CPUs have started shipping to OEMs. Looks like it's mainly a bug fix for Skylake with some performance enhancement. Big thing will be the chipset as TB moves to native support within the chipset rather than a bolt on with another chip.

    I'm thinking Skylake is going to be short lived at this point. My money's on Kaby with a 1070/1080.
     
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    When do you guys think these new MSI laptops are coming out?
     
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    Still under NDA and there is no official dates. Any dates at this point are just guesses.
     
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    I think I'll be waiting for either a Skylake refresh or Kaby Lake on the CPU side and pair it with a 1070. The i5/i7 base models available now suck IMO. Intel purposely cut their clock speeds to have a refresh worth upgrading for. There is zero reason they were clocked as low as hey are. Maybe Zen will be a mobile option as well at a cheaper price.
     
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    Yeah, the newer ones are looking like they're worth the wait. I'm glad I wasn't able to afford a new laptop earlier on this year. :D

    I'm not sure what to make of the Skylake platform in general the moment. I finally started messing with my wife's 2-in-1 Yoga last night and I'm quite surprised at how warm the chip gets. It has an m3-6Y30 in it. Just upgrading Windows and loading stuff, it got quite warm on my lap - almost like my GT60 kind of hot. Makes me wonder what the bigger ones are like, as these are supposed to be the "cool" ones. I'm hoping they get heat more under control with Kaby.
     
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    Are any of these going to have G-Sync?
     
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    Probably, even though some leaks suggest 120Hz panels. As powerful as newer Pascal GPUs are sometimes playing at Max settings makes G-Sync come in handy :)
     
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    Alleluia finally a new non-slim 15" from MSI :).

    I wasn't expecting the 1080 for entering a 15" anytime soon ^^. but it's a relief to see a 1070 in a 15" ;)


    I guess I know what I'm ordering then..now let's wait for gamescom.
     
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    I am also looking forward to the new Pascal Cards and new Laptops. The 1070 (if the "leaks" are correct) seems to be more than enough for mobile Gaming.
    Hopefully it will be 80W TDP or so meanwhile offering only little less performance than its big desktop brother 1070. The 850M is struggling to deliver good framerate and good quality in recent games, but its enough for me to get through 2-3 months for the new cards and laptops to be available.
    15" "regular" laptops are very rare, so some additional competition is appreciated.
     
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    80W is the 1060, the 1070 is 100-122W
     
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    How are we sure the GTX 1060 is 80W? Either way we will all know more very soon about the new GT62s. ;)
     
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    So is a normal MXM slot going to be able to handle these cards? MXM is capped out at 100W power draw.

    Unless MSI and others are doing something funky like an external plug or something like they're doing on desktops ...
     
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    It's all rumor and supposition based on the recent 'leaks' found anywhere on specialized websites, but who knows if those infos are legit ? But a 1060 will be included in msi slim GS series (according to retailers listing) so I don't think it will be >100W


    So basically you have your MXM board + an extra power pin you connect to your card offering extra watts ;), you are totally right but the cards have an independent power source in conjunction with the mxm board power (you can check the 980 (desktop) mobile version MXM board.
     
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    I hadn't seen a 980 GTX MXM before, so I wasn't aware that they were doing that. I thought they managed to get it down to 100W power draw, but it makes sense they're providing some external juice.

    I also see the card's bigger than a 980m as well.

    How much extra power does it suck down compared to a 980m? And are we going see bigger power bricks as a result?

    I'm looking at mainly a 1070, unless prices are good on the 1080s.

    Looks like Tuesday August 16th at midnight EST is the magic time:

    https://gaming.msi.com/promotion/alter-your-reality

    So if we want anything more powerful than a 1060, we're going to have to go up to a GT series, huh? I was liking the GS series, but if it's a no go on a 1070 ...
     
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    All of MSIs new laptops can be purchased beginning Aug 16th. :)

    After reading that the 120hz displays can only be had on the 17" models I am now changing gears and my next laptop might just be a GE72VR or a GS73VR with the 120hz display. I really don't care if I get a 1060 or 1070 TBH. I have a GTX 1080 for home use and a 1060 for the road at 1080p will suffice.
     
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    I don't care at all about 120hz, but response time grey-grey < 5ms + G-Sync is important for me.

    120hz are good, but seriously I don't care about >60fps, I won't stress more my gpu for increasing the FPS count beyond the 60fps bar, above that it feels 'unreal'. I'd rather have a G-sync 15" 60hz 1440p screen ;).

    120hz is important for VR goggles ! That would be perfect

    GS series are prone to throttling and I approve MSI's choice for not trying to fit a lion in a rabbit's cage ;).
     
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    How prone to throttling? I remember reading it was pretty bad during the Kepler days, but I thought Maxwell improved on that a lot. Doesn't Pascal? And if Pascal is running a good bit cooler, is the 1070 still too hot despite them getting a 970m in there?

    I would like something upgradable, and if that can be done by a TB3 eGPU, I'm ok with that. My home's been getting away from desktops, so good graphics is a bit more important for me at least. I'm not sold on the whole VR thing or 4K, but I can't say I've used either to really be convinced either way.

    I'm curious as to how MSI's pricing these. I'm also surprised that we haven't seen more leaks on specs. A lot more was leaked on Skylake laptops last year.
     
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    Thanks for the link. I know what you guys meant by throttling - I just thought the situation had improved more than it had in that the GPU didn't throttle as much under Maxwell as it did under Kepler.

    I'm looking forward to seeing the full specs of these and hoping they aren't too overpriced. I'm liking the GT73VR. I'll have to check them out when they start showing up at MicroCenter.
     
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    you are right but regarding the CPU the throttling is still present ;), the GPU side was clearly improved with maxwell.
     
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    Geez. You're pushing me more toward the GT72/73VR now. :)

    I liked the idea of the thin laptop with good graphics. But if it's going to throttle on me and the thicker one won't, well, it's turning out to be a no-brainer.
     
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    Under intensive load (big gaming session) you'll experience slight throttle, if you're planning on playing Battlefield 1/Deux Ex/etc. ultra for several hours go for a GT7xVR, you'll get better stability and performance. Bear in mind that the MSI GS will still run your game very well, just that the cooling isn't as efficient as a thick laptop and might affect you in big game sessions.
     
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    Very good points. Thank you. :)
     
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    And to be honest, the GT72 doesn't feel as heavy as it looks, I imagine the next gen will be the same. Even the systems that aren't as thin seem lighter.
     
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    What about the thickness Tanner?
    Did they improve it in this generation over the previous? Is it more uniform from front to back? The GT60/GT70 series has this non-uniformity where the back is thicker than the front. For those like me who use a backpack it becomes a hassle as the backpack doesn't lay flat on my back and one shoulder has more wheight than the other. I "fixed" it by balancing stuff on other compartments but the non-flat rest issue still remains.
     
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    You do realize that Xotic won't reveal confidential infos on the MSI Pascal lineup ;), and it's a good thing. Read between the lines... that should be enough if you want your answer.
     
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    Yeah I know, no problem. I asked in general terms about thickness without going into specific numbers and/or specs ;)
    I just wanted to confirm what I already know from others :D
     
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    The changes should be minimal, because how much can they change besides the form factor, size, and weight? Just the look.
     
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    Remind me after they're out and I'll grab some calipers measure one for you. :)
     
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    Thanks guys :)
     
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    damn, now i'm thorn between MSI GT62 or Clevo P650RS-G.

    i was going to get P650RG-G because it's the only 15.6" laptop with GTX 980M and I thought the successor, P650RS-G, will have GTX1080.
    But now that the NDA is over and we have clear specs, turns out P650RS-G will come only with 1070 and that make it on par with MSI GT62.

    Hmm, MSI or Clevo??
     
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    GT62VR is a bit disappointing, IMO.

    My main gripes:

    No Thunderbolt
    No 120 Hz LCD
    M.2 SATA SSD

    It's more tolerable at the $1500 starting point, but up at the $2000 end? It should have all of those IMO.
     
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    I have the GT62VR in hand right now. Typing on it. I'll be testing it over the next week or so and deciding if its worth it over the GS73 with the 120hz display. It has G-Sync and I've been able to overclock the display to 63hz. Something I've already noticed is the space bar is trash. I am constant missing it to register. My old GE62 did not have this issue and the keyboard was identical. This laptop will be returned and swapped if I can't figure this out.

    This space bar issue is pretty bad actually, I just noticed while typing and it's very very noticeable and not responsive. Either I got a lemon or MSI seriously screwed up when designing this keyboard. Like I said my GE62 with a very similar steel series keyboard did not exhibit this issue.
     
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    Anyone spot the difference between the GT62VR and the GT63VR?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    LOL, yeah, i also trying to decide whether to get the slim and light GS73 but with only 1060 GPU or GT62 with smaller screen but more gpu power and cooling.

    There is no GT63, but there is GS63. So, GT62 for heavy build and GS63 for slim n light build.
     
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