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I also ordered mine from GentechPC and have conductonaut on both the CPU/GPU. I tried a -140 mV undervolt as well with no luck. Still throttling when I'm benchmarking. However, games like league and GTA I hit temps below 80.

 

How can you access those settings in the bios?

 

Not sure on that. What utility are you using to monitor throttling? I’ve been using HWINFO

 

Same thing I have been using HwINFO64, benching with LoL, GTA 5, Firestrike, Aida64, Prime95, and Cinebench.

If it aint too much trouble, can I see your settings for Throttlestop?

 

When unlocking the BIOS menu:

Look for Overclock -> Enable OC -> Memory -> Memory profile choose custom profile ->Tweak your RAM.

I don't have the exact name now, but similar meaning.

This is stable for the Samsung ram DDR4, if you have other brand then you need to test.

If it turns on for more than a minute and does not boot into MSI logo, unplug your power cable and hold down power button for 4 sec to force shutdown and continue pressing down the power button, do not release the power button for 1 min for CMOS clear. At this moment with no cable plugged in you should not be able to turn on the GS65 on battery by pressing the power button. So now plug in the power cable, press the power button, you should see it turns on, it'll repeat on and off and boot into logo, you'll find your ram setting is replaced by the default ram setting but still on custom profile. And then you can continue trying for your desired settings.

I have not been able to get the Samsung ram to run at 2800MHz or 2932MHz, I guess maybe 2666 is the maximum speed for it.

 

Awesome thanks! What do you recommend for fan speed settings if I delete dragon center?

 

This concerns me because I'm on the purchase page on the website with the exact same setup except with pads...

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Check your aida64 benchmark scores.
You may have better scores running your RAM at timings of 15-15-35 (the three primary timings), command rate 1T (Nmode=1), @ 2400 mhz and setting tRFC to 270 and tREFI to 32767, rather than using much looser timings for 2666 mhz. Especially check the "ns" rating for the main memory scores. Faster is not always better. You gain a huge benefit in "write" speed from the faster raw speed, but timings influence read and copy speeds greatly.

 

Just bought my gs65 best buy version. Is it normal for the power led to turn from white to amber on it's own? At first i thought it was the charging indicator, but it just switches between white and amber on it's own... If this is a problem i'll have to RMA this quickly.

 

Yes it is. When white it's using the internal GPU and when it's amber it's using the dedicated graphic card.

 

Good morning everyone,

I have a temperature problem with my GS65, I unistalled MSI Dragon Center 2 and applied the tweaks at the first page of this forum. I saw the temperature raising and i put the bios settings to default and reinstalled the dragon center.

Now my CPU temerature at idle is 50°C with -130 mV undervolt MSI profile on turbo CPU usage between 2 and 8 %

If with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility i do a stress test i get:

Max core freq between 2.30 3.00 ghz (with -130mV undervolt core voltage offset)

http://vvcap.com/7uODvI1iSn9

I have repasted the notebook with artic silver V and i didn't get pratically any improvement.

Is there something that i am doing wrong or are there any suggestions / bios tweaks that could get my temperatures lower and maybe throttle the cpu less?

Thanks for the help and sorry if I made some technical mistakes.

EDIT: Normal chrome usage of this forum gets me 60 / 65°C

 

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Yea... I'm not sure what I may be doing wrong. I mean mario64 and me are having two different temperature readings despite having the same exact machine from GentechPC.

 

Do you mind me asking how long it took (from order date) to revive your laptop?

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Ordered it on 6/13 and got it on 6/24. Takes them like 5 business days for custom builds and then shipping was another 4-5 business days.

 

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Nothing really to see but I've attached it

 

Hey there,

Can you attach a pic of the cable you're using for SPDIF?

Also, do you have Nahimic installed, apart from the device driver (by Realtek)?

 

It's a toslink to mini-toslink cable. The exact same one I have currently working in a GE63, and before that a GE62

nahimic and the realtek console are both installed, and both seem to be operating correctly (except for this issue)

 

anyone know what type of screw the bottom cover uses? I see
to be missing one

 

Me too! No idea how I lost one either.

By my calipers, M2.5 x 6mm

 

I'm also wondering what CinebenchR15 scores people are getting? I have two 8 GB samsung dimms

With stock thermal paste, stock voltage, dragon center uninstalled/bios optimized defaults loaded, fans sets to a constant 150% (6400 rpm CPU, 6800 rpm GPU), on the first "from idle" run I get a score of ~895 and that decreases to ~795 on subsequent runs. And these are obviously a lot worse without the fans unsafely already cranked to be at constantly 150%

With the same as above except voltages at -150/-50/-100 (core/cache/intelgpu) I get 960 decreasing to 860 on subsequent runs. If I drop the turbo multiplier to 36x, i'm still hitting thermal throttling temps and getting the same scores.

Even in the firestrike physics test I'm getting thermal throttling on the cpu.

My scores seem pretty far from some of the 1050+ scores I'm seeing. Some of them even seem to be running it totally stock. There is an 1125 here https://www.msi.com/blog/gs65-stealth-thin-the-slightest-powerful-gaming-with-8-hours-battery-life

I'm kind of debating whether I should try to apply thermal paste or return the laptop and get a aero 15x. (I went with the GS65 over the 15x because of the spdif output that the GS65 doesn't actually have)

 

So where do you put the tape to silence the creaking? The one guy who did didn’t really descibe where he put it

 

Has anyone had problems with dead pixels on this laptop? I’ve gone through 2. First one had a stuck pixel. Second had a dead black pixel

 

I'm really interested in this laptop, but 250 nits is not enough for me unless it's an x220. Windows Central says their model had a 350 nit screen -- I want to know if there's a different SKU out there with a brighter screen.

 

It's harder to get anything above 250 nits without paying more. IMHO, the screen works perfectly fine in an indoor environment, and its color/contrast are great.

 

That is the correct cable.

MSI definitely sold you a defective unit. Raise hell.

 

Yeah, but I do a lot of work outdoors. I found 300 on a matte panel was the bare minimum.

 

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Nice reviews on some laptops with GS65 also...

2 of the best guys on youtube to check laptop reviews

 

I'm going to pick up my MSI GS 65 Stealth tonight (512 SSD + 1070 max Q with stock past).

I'm living in Sweden. Is there any difference in how much I can undervolt, or can I go for -150 which seems to work great for forum members?

Also, I have no pre experience with managing stuff like undervolting the CPU/GPU or lower the turbo multipliers. Also, the post on reddit suggest changing it down to 39/38/37, do you guys agree with those settings?

As a newbie, should I go with TS or XTU for changing the settings stated above?

Sorry for asking questions which may have been answered before, greateful for any tips.

 

150 is a good start. And yes, changing your clock multipliers is also a good thing to do. I just turn the 6 core down to 37 and that's it. To change multipliers, you must use TS. Probably for the best because you can schedule it to start with Windows and configure it differently while on battery.

 

So, I downloaded MSI Afterburner and tried to "undervolt" the GPU. This is a GTX 1060 and I'm not really sure which clockspeed I should use. But I plugged it as the last dot which was 1911 MHz. Does this looks okay or? Because I can't really notice any difference at all. I'm like only playing Fortnite and the temps still run up to about 77c as a max. The reason I want to "undervolt" it is because i hopefully can drag down the vents.

So after some games with this curve im getting highest temp 72c, but what I don't understand is that; GPU Power limit, GPU Temp limit and GPU voltage limit is always set to 1, but still I was able to play the game. For some reason it's running constant at 1886 MHz even tho it's set to 1911 MHz.

Update, now it's trying to change the resolution by itself, (some windows pop-up) even inside fortnite the resolution was changed.

Any thoughts? Is the power throttle?

 

You should smoothen the curve, an abrupt drop like this one leads to a performance loss

 

That's not an undervolt. That simply prevents the card from exceeding 1911 mhz because the curve is flattened. So it won't exceed 0.881v @ 1911 mhz. A GTX 1060 will still easily hit power limit at those settings. Even a GTX 1070 would hit power limit at 0.881v @ 1860 mhz. Not sure about a 1060, but it would require 150W TDP limit to avoid hitting power limits at 1860 mhz @ 0.881v on a 1070.

If you want to undervolt, you have to limit the clockspeed at a lower voltage point Flattening the curve at the 0.825v voltage point will help a little. There isn't exactly a graceful way to undervolt. You basically have to overclock it at a lower voltage point and lock the voltage down.

Another thing you can try is pressing "L" at 0.800v which will prevent the card from going past 1500 mhz (on your graph).

 

Hey everyone. First time poster but been lurking for a while. Got a GS65 from Bestbuy last week. Accidently left the laptop running idle when I put it in my case and in my backpack for many hours (6+). Took it out later and it was very hot with only 5% battery left. Am I looking at any damage to any internals or screen resting on the hot keyboard surface? Everything looks OK so far. Temps are still the same, idle is 37-40c and under gaming it still goes up to 75c max. Thanks for any input. Just some $2000 purchase paranoia haha

 

How is that possible?
The laptop should be in suspend mode (at least S3 if not S4 or whatever connected standby is) if the lid is closed. It should not be running. It uses no power in that configuration, just RAM is kept refreshed to maintain data integrity. That is if it doesn't enter hibernate.

 

Made an account just to say this.

HIDEVOLUTION for the love of God, please offer the MSI GS65 with a 512GB SSD when paired with a 1070.


Thank you
Love Y'all <3

 

It should be fine, because if the system was overheating it would have shut itself down already. But how come the system didn't enter sleep mode when the lid was closed?

 

Thank you for the input. I have now configured the fans and undervolted CPU and cache.

Is there anything else I should configure with my laptop besides CPU, cache and fans?

Edit: What's your take on disabling turbo through TS?

 

Disable turbo on battery, leave it on when plugged in

 

No. Should be no damage. If it got too hot it would at least throttle, at worst immediately power down.

I've seen mice, apps, and other things depending on how you are configured able to wake a system up from sleep.. hopefully it's just a one off occurrence but I wouldn't worry about damage.

If it keeps happening I'd start trying to find the culprit that keeps waking your unit up with the lid closed.

 

Does anyone know how to disable automatic turn off of the wifi card when the laptop goes to sleep? In Ubuntu, whenever I put the computer to sleep, upon wakeup, it says "wifi hardware disabled'. Toggling the airplane mode doesn't seem to fix things. I always have to reboot to get connectivity again. Does anyone know if this is a BIOS setting? I tried looking around but couldn't find any names that sounded correct. I also tried disabling the setting in Windows in case that was the issue.

 

MSI laptops do not wake from Suspend on internal trackpad or keyboard press. Requires pressing the power button or an external keyboard or mouse attached. If you had something attached to it then that can wake it up. If not, well...I tested it and it sure doesn't happen to mine...

 

So mine got a scratch on the screen, and it wouldn’t enter into the computer system at geek squad, so they just pulled one off the shelf and moved my driver over (for free, kudos to them). I don’t know if this one is from a different batch, but it’s supporting some ridiculous undervolts. Currently at -.200 on core and cache, prime 95 blend test caps at 69 C. Holy moly

 

Edit:eventually got a crash at 299, dropping to 195

 

Wow, that's awesome!! Keep working it and see if you can keep it somewhere between 200 and 299.

-100mv gives about -10c at 100% all core load, which drops most from thermal throttling in 90's back to mid-80's or lower, but -200mV stable would be a first seen here on NBR.

I think the highest mentioned was -220mV, but stable around -170mV to -180mV, but they didn't come back with further numbers... sigh.

It would be interesting to see just how much lower the temperature drop is at 100% all core load (stock speeds), and how high the OC can go with undervolt cooling it.

Congratulations.

 

That was a mistype, it was supposed to 200, which is still great, but 299 would be insane

 

If your interested, although it’s slightly unstable at 200, my cpu downclocked to 3.6ghz never went past 70 C in a prime95 blend test, which is INSANE

 

Ok, on a prime 95 26.6 burn test (maximum heat), at 3.6 ghz and un underfoot of -.195, max temp after 10 minutes is 75 C, dropping to 73 after fans kick in. Holy **** that’s cold, I’d expect those temps from a LM repaste, gonna try it at 3.9 now
Edit. 3.9 is only 82C, where I’d expect to see throttling. Gonna try at 4.1 now

 

Wow, I though we'd broken through some process barrier with that one.

Like someone forgot to put the limiter doohickey in place, and it was running wild and free.

-200mV, or even -195mV is still a record, I think we've only been seeing predominantly -150mV to -170mV, so -195mV if stable is golden.

As you drop the multiplier on core and cache - remember dropping cache multiplier down lower than core saves power and has little effect on most work-loads, so it's worth a try to find the lowest cache multiplier and cache undervolt as well.

The iGPU has settings as well, but IDK - it might need testing on iGPU work loads to see how it affects performance. That iGPU takes resources that the CPU could use; such a succubus of an appendage.

Please let us know how it works out, no rush, these things take time.