*** The Official MSI GS63VR STEALTH PRO/GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q Owner's Lounge ***

MSI GS63VR STEALTH PRO-002 - 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) 120Hz 5ms 94% NTSC Matte LCD w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q - Intel 7th Gen "Kaby Lake" i7-7700HQ - 512GB M.2 SATA SSD standard Up to 2TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe or 1TB SATA III SSD plus 1TB 7mm SATA HDD standard - Up to 4TB SSD - 32GB DDR4/2400MHz Memory standard Up to 32GB DDR4/2666MHz - Windows 10 Pro (Standard) - 0.69" Thin and 3.96 pounds light

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  • Latest 7th Gen. Intel® Core™ i7 processor
  • Windows 10 Home / Windows 10 Pro
  • Most powerful ultra slim 15.6'' gaming notebook with GeForce® GTX 1070
  • Exclusive MSI Cooler Boost Trinity Technology for GPU and CPU to drive full performance
  • 15.6" FHD 120Hz WideView (16:9) Matte-Type 94% NTSC Screen (1920x1080)
  • NVMe M.2 SSD by PCIe Gen3 X4 up to 2200MB/s speed(optional)
  • High-Resolution Audio ready for lossless, high-quality audio
  • Nahimic 2+ 3D sound technology deliver 360⁰ immersive audio experience
  • Elegant brushed aluminum chassis, creating an ideal fusion of aesthetics and performance
  • RGB Gaming Keyboard by Steelseries with full color backlighting
  • Exclusive Silver Lining Printed keys
  • SteelSeries Engine 3 with GameSense to personalize your play style
  • Dragon Center provides six functions to get total control of your laptop
  • Exclusive SHIFT technology boosts performance under controlled noise & temperature
  • Thunderbolt™ 3 for 40Gbps speed, 4K display output, and portable 5V/3A charging power
  • True Color 2.0 for increased color contrast and greater image detail
  • Killer DoubleShot Pro with Smart Teaming and Killer Shield
  • Xsplit Gamecaster free premium license for 1 year
  • WTFast free premium license for 2-month

Now, with GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q

Where to Buy:
- HIDevolution
- GenTech PC
- XOTIC PC

 

Ugh well they're here.

Do we have starting price info? Oh yeah we do, you should post it on the page... Cuz it's awful...

 

I like the fact that HIDevolution and GenTech PC clearly state that the notebook is sporting a Max Q GPU in every instance of the purchasing process. XOTIC PC does this too except at the customization stage. Cheers to them for displaying the information!

 

Any word on whether this version uses a Precision Touchpad driver for the Elan Smartpad? Or if it's the same one as the last GS63VR?

 

It is the same as the GS63VR.

 

Thanks. I really hope they change that in the future.

 

Looks like everything goes as predicted, which means horribly wrong for us customers :
They will make you pay the price of a laptop with a full 1070 in it ; except the 1070MQ is more like a 1065...
And thickness is not a correct argument to justify the price, MSI's GS line always were the thinnest for their screen size. This laptop is only 0.2mm thinner than previous GS63.

I hope prices quickly fall down. Unless tests prove that MQ gpu's are not too weak during games compared to regular gpu's.

 

Have we actually seen proper benchmarks for the MQs?

 

Yes

 

...as helpful as that was, I was looking for something every so slightly more useful to breakdown the different artifical benchmark scores.

When I was checking a week or so ago, there was only one firestrike score for the 1070mq,and it wasn't too impressive comparatively.

 

With the Max-Q being as new as it is, I would check daily.

 

Thank you for the advice.

 

Please share a benchmark mobile gpu vs max q gpu score

 

Dont see 4K version anywhere. Where is it? Stop posting wrong info.

 

It isn't wrong info, it just hasn't been released yet.

Please don't start your community life here by being rude.

 

Community life? LOL. Better post it when it's released then. As of now, only FHD is available. We dont know if 4k will ever be released. Plus, why is the 4K with 1060 available not with 1070? Why dont you just replace the screen like the one already having 4K with 1060?

 

Who peed in your cornflakes this morning?

 

Why is the sky blue?

Ask MSI why they have already released the 4K with the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, and won't release the 4K with nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q until the 3rd or 4th Qtr. It is just a production priority issue with them.

 

I'm not if favor of heavy handed moderation but when a user is reported more times than he has posts to his name, there is hardly a way around it.
Please read forum rules and stick to them - language-wise at least.

 

There are two answers to that question, both of which are correct. (1) Because that's the color God decided to make it; and (2) the day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look towards the sun at sunset, we see red and orange colors because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight.

That was actually easier to answer than why any OEM/ODM does what they do. But, they do seem to enjoy playing god. It's good that they aren't in that role because the majority of their product engineering and marketing decisions provide us with abundant evidence that they lack the ability to make good decisions.

 

Are there published reviews and benchmarks yet? If so, where can I go to read them?

 

Go read them here: MSI GS63VR Stealth PRO Benchmarks!

 

is the screen really 5ms response time or is it some marketing BS? I mean some say that the qhd screens for the aorus and aw are 18ms and not the advertised 5ms. If so i too want to know the response time of the 120hz panel that i am currently using. Any idea how i can find out which screens have the really low response time? thanks

 

I have just received the GS63VR 7RG with the 1070 maxq. I want to exploit this thing. What can I test ?
I'm getting 12500 score in firestrike. I think it can be pushed. If only we could unlock the vbios or shunt mod the gpu.

 

If you have the time to do a bit of gaming, could you see how the avg temps are and what the fan noise is like, please and thank you.

EDIT: Oh also don't forget to undervolt, the video that Gentech PC did of this one showed high temps of 94c :<

 

After gaming for about 1.5 hours in PUBG on Ultra the temps are reading 71 for GPU and 87 for CPU. Very reasonable. It sounds about what my previous MSI did. Very quiet around 43 decibels on my meter.

 

That's pretty decent. Few more questions if you don't mind:

- Did you undervolt to achieve those temps?

- Are those numbers with stock paste? Otherwise, what did you use?

- How is the screen? I get that it's a TN screen so I'm not expecting much, but some TN screens can be rather impressive.
Viewing angles, colour, delay. Just to see if the actual quoted 5ms stands true

- if you play Overwatch, can you do some testing on that to see the highest settings it can handle while still maintaining 110-120fps?

- lastly, how's the battery life on this?

I'm hoping to purchase this on my trip to Japan. At the moment it's either this or the Aero 15. Thanks very much - again

 

I haven't undervolted yet. Working on a custom bios so u can have it permanently underclocked via bios.

I've had TN screens before so I was tentative when buying this planning to swap the screen. To my surprise is definitely the best TN screen I've ever used. A few of my other laptops have TAN screens and they have an overwhelming gray shade over the entire screen. Lack contrast. Color etc. And bad angles.. this one I can say that I have no desire to switch, looks very good to my eye and has very good blacks, no gray shade effect. Butter smooth with that 120hz, love it.

I'm sorry I actually don't play overwatch. I do plat gta5 however and I'm able to hit around 75 constantly with every setting maxed including msaa and reflection to 8x. Very pleased. In the countryside however it drops to around 30 fps with all those settings maxed. Dropped to 2x msaa it's butter smooth up at 90+

 

Thanks for the info! Have you had a chance to check out the battery life? I'm trying to decide how much more I want gaming performance/120hz panel over productivity when comparing this laptop to for example an XPS 15 (which would of course also be around half the price, but probably around half the performance)..

 

Hi I don't know if we have the same specs that I ordered. I'm currently waiting mine and excited. I chose the gs63vr over the zephyrus because I didn't like the keyboard and touchpad layout, no built in lan network etc. Since I travel a lot and have a small space in the table(also will use this for work), I can only bring a mouse, mousepad and will use the built in keyboard on the laptop for gaming. Since you mention about the screen is good as a TN panel, I'm kinda relieved because if this laptop has a bad TN panel (TAN Screen, bad angles, lack contrast, color etc) I'm gonna regret it over the zephyrus(IPS, GSYNC).

Do you have problems when you first booted it up? because I watched some videos that it throttles (high usage cpu? hdd?, bloatwares) that you need to clean install the windows to fix the issue. I don't know if these issues were already fix in the max q version.

Here are the specs that I ordered.

Specs:

MSI GS63VR STEALTH PRO-002(Kabylake & Max-Q)
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU: Intel i7-7700HQ (Kabylake & Max-Q)
GPU: GTX1070 8GB
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 2400MHz
Display: 15.6" 120Hz (3ms) Full HD Gaming 1920x1080 94% NTSC Anti-Glare Wide View Angle
SSD: 512GB Samsung 960 PRO M.2 NVMe
HDD: 2TB Seagate FireCuda Gaming SSHD

Games that I will play:

Dota 2 will hit 120fps? Ultra settings?
PUBG what fps do I get? Ultra/ High / Medium?
CS GO what fps do I get?
Overwatch - Ultra/ High settings fps?

Since I play PUBG also what is the fps on PUBG when ultra settings? and how to achieve 120fps on PUBG in what custom settings to maintain at least 120fps?

 

That is a great configuration!

Please put those specs in your signature so they will show up every time you make a post. It will make it easier for the veterans here to help with any questions you might have.

 

I play PUBG on ultra everything maxed. It's smooth for me no jitters anywhere. I also have the Samsung 960 PRO 512 as my OS disk and a crucial mx300 2TB as my storage. 32GB ram and i7700.

I honestly didn't give it a chance to lag when first booted, I went to settings and reset the OS right away. No other issues.

 

What fps are you getting on pubg ultra? Can it run 120fps on pubg in high or medium settings? Do you think it will get 120fps on the games that I mention? How was the screen compare to IPS? Is it nearly close? Did you clean install windows before using it? So you manually download drivers from msi right? Thanks

 

What fps are you getting on pubg ultra? Can it run 120fps on pubg in high or medium settings? Do you think it will get 120fps on the games that I mention? How was the screen compare to IPS? Is it nearly close? Did you clean install windows before using it? So you manually download drivers from msi right? Thanks

 

Thanks for that you absolute saint.

Can't believe that it runs cool enough. Did you repaste to achieve those temperatures?

 

Yes it seems to be a great gaming very portable little laptop. Overall although very pricey this things awesome. I'm now overclocking it and I have just repasted with liquid metal. I'm running cool at 250 mhz core OCd and memory at 300mhz OCd. All seems well so far. GPU temps reach a Max of 74 overclocked. Almost 13000 firestrike score. If ever I'm able to mod the vBios like the old nVidia days Ill definitely up the voltage on it and should be able to increase GPU temps to around 85 no sweat. This GPU had room to play.

 

Suppose to get mine in the next few days.. honestly my main concern is the stuttering I noticed in the last 3 MSI laptops I tried (gs43, gs63, gs73). If that problem is finally resolved I may actually be willing to keep this one. Despite the rather expensive price.

 

What specs did you get?

Where did you buy it?

 

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX67347

 

Looks like that one has the full 1070 mobile design, not maxq is that right ? I did not know they made one in the same thin form factor with the non maxq design... Hmm

 

Oh, weird yeah I guess they didn't call out max q on that marketing page. It's definitely a max q though, it's the gs63vr 7rg. On MSI's page https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS63VR-7RG-Stealth-Pro.html#hero-overview they just have a small 'fine print' style bullet point calling out max q. Does seem a bit shady.

 

I think the Model no. that has Max q design is MSI GS63vr Stealth Pro-002, which I ordered. MSI have very confusing model when naming their laptops.

 

That's new, MSI didn't have any Max-Q mention before at all

" PERFORMANCE
GeForce GTX 10-Series GPUs give you up to 3X the performance of previous-generation GPUs. They’re built with ultra-fast FinFET, the latest high-bandwidth memory technologies, and support for DirectX 12 features to deliver the fastest, smoothest gaming notebook experiences.

*GeForce® GTX 1070 with MAX-Q Design"

MSI didn't even bother changing the "GeForce GTX 10-Series GPUs give you up to 3X the performance of previous-generation GPUs.", they just added the *'d notice.
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS73VR-7RG-Stealth-Pro.html#hero-overview

MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro w/ GTX 1070 MaxQ – Full Review + Benchmarks

 

A quick question for the owners here:

Would someone be able to get 4-5 hours of battery life web browsing in power saver mode? If not, approximately how long do you get?

Thanks in advance.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

 

The only problem with this product it lacks of information and user reviews!! that why ive been on hold for 1 week to not push the button and buy it!!

 

Right now from what I've experienced owning a big fat GTX 1080 laptop and several other MSI laptops, this is the best you'll get if you want thin and portable, so very thin, yet still have just amazing power. I have repasted and OCd now and am achieving 13010 in firestrike. Very impressed for this size it seems not possible. Everything else about the laptop to me I find perfect. No wishes or complaints, except for maybe adding 2 more USB 3 ports. It already had 3 usb 3 ports and one us 2. I. Greedy and would love an abnormal amount, maybe 5 usb3 ? Anyway, this thing is a beast, and I've got a modded bios on it now so I have permanently undervolted the CPU in bios, and it's helped me get those higher scores. The only downfall I can see is that price tag. I paid 2400 for this.

 

Mine arrived yesterday; didn't have much of a chance to use it until today. I didn't have a ton of time with it today but I can give my early impressions. Everyone's use case will probably be different but tbh for mine my impressions are mixed. Don't get me wrong, when plugged in to power, this machine is amazing for gaming. The 120 hz TN panel makes everything feel smoother and faster, even when doing simple things like scrolling web pages. In game of course it also looks great. The performance is what you would expect out of a proper 'gaming' laptop, which is to say it's very fast. I was even able to hook up to my 4k monitor and drive my fav game (Rocket League) at 60 FPS with maxed settings @ 4k. On the native panel/FHD res I can easily get 200 FPS, maxing out the increased refresh rate. It's quite a solid experience. It's incredibly light and portable. There are some compromises though..

First off, the battery. I'm not sure what the actual size is, since I am getting different reports from the battery software I use for monitoring (batteryinfoview), but it appears to be somewhere between 51-52 Whr. This is smaller than many ultrabooks on the market, and of course with the increased power usage from the more powerful components, combined this means the battery life will not be great. I saw around 10w usage at idle earlier, so I imagine you would probably see somewhere between 3-4 hrs (maybe 4.5) doing light productivity tasks. As soon as you increase your load (say, streaming, or god forbid, playing any games), obviously that will take a hit. For example, right now I'm downloading a game on steam and even with power profile set to 'power saver' and battery saver mode on, and brightness dimmed, I'm currently at 35w usage. Basically, if you ever intend on using this thing unplugged, you better get your stuff done quick.

Another thing is sometimes I like to sit outside on days with nice weather, today was one such day, and this panel is I would say rather unusable outdoors, even in the shade.I had it cranked up to max brightness and still had a hard time with mostly white webpages. It generally looks fine indoors though, if perhaps a bit washed out. In game it looks good, which I suppose is the primary focus.

The touchpad is passable at best. It's ok but I'm quite the fan of microsoft precision drivers and that is sadly missing from this laptop. I don't find the trackpad that great. The keyboard has nice feedback, but I find that I still make more mistakes than other keyboards; I suppose it's something I could get used to. The spacebar for example I apparently keep missing. I sort of have this feeling like the keys want me to push them directly in the middle and if I'm slightly off-center my finger slides off.. you'd have to try one to see what I mean. Generally I type around 130 wpm so I can usually make the most of a keyboard.. Also I personally don't really have much use for a number pad so the fact that one is included forces the rest of thekeys to be a bit more cramped and forces them and the touchpad to be off-center, both things which I don't appreciate. I also don't like MSI's choice of omitting the windows key from the left side of the spacebar, as I am more used to using it there. I know it can be toggled in the bios, but I don't really like using the FN key on the right side instead either. Another minor point is the omission of a function lock toggle, which I find handy. I am glad for a fn key toggle of the trackpad.

A windows reinstall seemed crucial. For example, when I had the stock install going, I could only get around 200-250 megabit from both my wireless and wired connections, even though I have a solid AC router and gigabit internet. This was while using the same cable that my desktop was using - which can max out my internet connection at 940 megabit. Once I reinstalled windows and let the default drivers install I was able to hit around 900 megabit (although it had to ramp up..) on LAN, and still only got around 200 megabit with wireless. For reference, my late 2016 macbook pro can get around 450 megabit in the same room on the same wireless connection.

One big plus is the fact that I haven't noticed much in the way of microstuttering. This is the 4th (or.. 5th? I've lost count) MSI gs series laptop I've tried over the past year, and while all of the other ones (the gs43, gs63, and gs73) all suffered from stuttering in windows and in-game (in-game being the most frustrating), I haven't noticed it in game with this machine yet. I haven't done much gaming yet, but all of the other machines would stutter quite often, usually every 5-10 mins of gaming, so I feel like it would have happened by now. I have seen some small pauses in windows, but especially after the reinstall I don't think I've seen much. This is fairly critical as it was simply a deal-breaker for me on the other machines; in this case it's a relief to seemingly be ok.

As far as temps, they were pretty decent. I've mostly been playing not plugged in, so the laptop throttles to 60 FPS. The max temps I've recorded are around 80 degrees on both CPU and GPU. I imagine this will go higher when I play plugged in. Arguably what's most important is that when playing a game with the laptop on my lap; it does get slightly hotter than I would prefer. Considering I have a 1060 laptop which simply gets uncomfortably hot, and which forces me to use a cooling pad, I would say this is a win; although with the on-battery throttling I actually get lower performance than the 1060 laptop (which could do 80ish FPS @ 1440 vs the 60 FPS that this laptop gets throttled to). The fans are also ok-ish while gaming. I think all of the wonderful work that nvidia has done with MaxQ gets undermined by the CPU still tending to get very hot.

Another point about gaming on battery, at 30% battery life it seems to throttle even more, from 60 FPS to 30 FPS. In rocket league in particular this renders the game basically unplayable. Since the battery is so small, it basically means I get around 30 mins of play time on battery before I have to plug in.. this is underwhelming to say the least. I know what you might be thinking "who cares, who tries to play games on battery", well.. I do. I'm fine with accepting that I can only get around an hour of game time, I think if I'm playing much longer than that I'm ok with using a desktop or plugging in to power. but half an hour is just too short of a session to be worthwhile; it basically means I can only game while plugged in. Basically I'm thinking back to an XPS 15 I tried which could actually go for around 75 mins at full FPS before needing to be plugged in. Granted it could only deliver half the gaming performance, but it still meant 60 FPS gaming, and it could deliver it for longer and at cooler perceivable temps (on the bottom of the unit) than this machine, and at half the price.

I guess to sum it up, I'm personally looking for a machine which can be a solid laptop, which can also play games as a laptop. This is an amazing desktop replacement, but not a great laptop. I think for the money there should be less compromises. I am sold on higher refresh panels though; I could see myself returning this and getting a proper 'gaming' monitor which runs at least at 120-144hz. I will take a few days to enjoy playing games at higher frames than my desktop's GTX 960 can deliver though!

 

I have just received mine to replace my "old" gs63vr...
Things that have changed..
The logo
The keyboard feels different (I prefer the old one)
The screen from IPS to TN.. You can see easily the difference with angle vision. Although now is a 120ms screen.
The back opened more easily than the old one...
I will be running some test during the next days..

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

New firmware posted..
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GS63VR-7RG-Stealth-Pro.html#!type=download
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Not sure whats been changed there's no log there.

Koog

 

Got mine 2 days ago from xoticpc. Custom specs are... Remove the HDD; bump up the SSD to 1TB Samsung 960 EVO; CoolLaboratory Liquid Ultra Thermal Compound - GPU & CPU. Have spent the past evenings doing a clean install of Win10 and getting rid of the Win10 bloat. Finally got it to a state where I can install some games.

1st thing I installed was Total War: Rome 2. It's one of those games that I never got to enjoy (played it about 4-5 times) because my previous laptops weren't up to snuff. TW:R2 has a benchmark tool. I never got past 24fps average on that benchmark tool. The minimum was around 15fps. That's at lowest settings on a 1080p screen.

But with the GS63VR/GTX1070MQ, I got 64fps average and it never dipped below 31fps using TW:R2's benchmark tool. That's with all graphic settings set to their highest. Even at the Extreme preset, some of the settings not set to their highest. I cranked them all up.

Ashes of Singularity is another game I didn't get to enjoy. It also has a benchmark tool that has 2 tests - GPU and CPU focused. Just like TW:R2, AoS's highest preset - Crazy - still has some settings gimped. I cranked them all up to their highest settings as well.

The GPU focused test yielded 40fps average and 36fps minimum. The CPU focused test yielded 28fps average. Both were using the DX12 version of the game.

For me, that says a lot about what the GS63VR/GTX1070MQ can do.