Well. That very sounds complicated. I guess I could give it a shot... Pretty stupid we need to go through **** like this on a brand new machine. And what's this DDU this guy is talking about?
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My GE75's monitor seems to have inverse ghosting image problem.
Here are my GE75's screen capture, tested by this site: https://testufo.com/ghosting
There is a bit inverse ghosting image when the monitor use 144Hz refresh rate. It become very noticeable when the monitor use 60Hz.
Is there anything can do with it? Or is it my monitor hardware issue?Frencho, AirTortoise and AcidArrow like this. -
I wish they did care more about us, its not only 1000€, its almost 2400€ in my case and now prices already droped like hell...
Yes I did add 1.000V on CPU Core Voltage, it gives more stability.
CPU Cache is the most importante undervolte u can do, but u can also get BSOD (Blue Screen), if so, get it higher... u can get lower even on CPU Core voltage, but again, u need to test it. I did go all the way to -180mV but sometimes when unplugging my laptop I got BSOD.
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@ckli130126 I have the exact same problem
The 144hz is already kinda bad, but the 60hz is absolutely unbearable. It makes playing games at 60fps unbearable. I don't know if it's fixable. Theoretically the monitor's overdrive could be turned down, but I don't know if it can be done with a firmware update.
I have to say I'm pretty disappointed in this laptop. The CPU performance is not great, the monitor has issues, it has a slight coil whine and I believe MSI picked the loudest HDD they could find, because the murmur it does is the worst I have heard in a long time.
Here's an image from Sekiro, while I'm moving the camera:
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It doesn't help that review sites give glowing reviews to laptops that have this issue.
I've opened a ticket with MSI but I don't expect much. Wish I could get a refund.Frencho and ckli130126 like this. -
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Back to the top of the timespy leaderboard. no mods, no repasting, 100% stock as it came with only some throttle stop tweaks and some afterburner overclocks.
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Could other people also try the ufo test and let us know? https://testufo.com/ghosting
Switch the monitor to 60hz first. Then do the ghosting test and see if there is any inverse ghosting/overdrive overshoot.
Please also let us know if you have the AUO panel or the Chi Mei panel. I have a suspicion it's only the AUO that is this horrible.Frencho likes this. -
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For example, Sekiro.
And it's still bad at 144hz, it's just not unusably bad at 144hz, it's just pretty bad.Frencho likes this. -
Just out of curiosity, what mhz is your 2070 averaging while playing Apex Legends?
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I would absolutely RMA that...
How do you tell which panel you have? I don't see any ghosting on my GE75 with a 2080.Last edited: Apr 1, 2019 -
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Mine is AUO409D. From my understanding so far, the AUO panel exhibits this issue, while the Chi Mei panel (which some GE75s have) is fine.
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Was testing my GS75, I also see inverse ghosting on this panel, model name: CMN175C. It's not that noticeable at 144hz at all, but it is noticeable at 60hz.
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Hi everybody,
I own an Asus G752 with i7 7700HQ and GTX1070. I got it for almost 2 years now and I want to change it.
The thing is, The G752 is really quiet for a laptop. Ok, I want something more powerfull but I don't want a Airbus in my living room.
I read reviews on the GE75 with the 2080 and it seems making a lot of noise. I mean, when I'm alone I can play with headset but when I play games on my TV I want to be able to enjoy it without too much noise.
So I want to know how is Nvidia Whispermode with this laptop. I know it reduce FPS but if I play on my TV it's alright because it's a cheap one with 60Hz. If I can reduce the fans noise with this I would probably buy this laptop. otherwise, the Lenovo Y740 with the 2080 max-q seems a good choice too.
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@knibbler newish owner here, a few pages back you mentioned undervolting the GPU (assuming nvidia, not igpu) to get better overclocks. That's about all I have left, I've run the WholeHam bios mods and am running at 65W, I honestly have very few complaints (unlike others here). I've got it hooked up to a 34" and 24" external monitors as a desktop replacement and it runs great (a little loud.. but working on that now with silentoption). Could you advise on how best to undervolt the GPU and get a little more OC out of it?
I don't think my performance is bad by any means, my best timespy atm is 9904 ( https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6703146) which put me in the top 20 runs and top 5 users last I checked, but I'll squeeze every drop I can out of this thing. Did the repaste myself, running just on paste though not LM, so I could probably squeeze a couple points out of that too.
Any help would be appreciated! Thanks for all the advice in this thread from everyone it's been a great resource.
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At 1080p..on the laptop screen you can pull a higher frequency and still average under 150watts. Something like .900 volts @1920 mhz...run it for a while in game. Then check your average watts pulled in gpu power. Compare that to your average frequency. You may be able to hit 1920mhz 99 % of the time. Great fps. Deoends on the game and tolerances of your particar 2080. When the power drawn goes over 150watts the clocks will go down. The whole point is to try and avoid that at the highest clock possible.
At 1440p on a monitor you may only be able to sustain 1800mhz @ .850 volts because of the overall power draw.
A good undervolt can be better than hitting 1950mhz for brief moments but averaging in the 1600's most of the time at stock.
Also. Many may argue this but raising the memory frequency will increase the overall power draw and bring you closer to 150 watts. Testing this is easy. Once youve established a comfortable undervolt on the gpu, and you are familiar with your average frequencies sustained on a given game....add +400mhz to the gpu memory and see if your average gpu clock frequencies go down. It may still be worth doing if your fps go up.
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@knibbler This is a stupid question but I can't even change voltage in Afterburner, is there some trick to it or a different app people are using?
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Finally!
MSI has released a new version of EC Firmware https://www.msi.com//Laptop/support/GE75-Raider-8SG#down-firmware
There is only one line in the list of changes:
> 1.adjust power limit parameter.
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does anyone have the intel management engine driver? I for some reason am not able to get it from MSI website. The download file does not seem to have an installation file.
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I did Device manager > system devices > intel management interface engine .
Also unrelated but out of boredom at work I checked for updates on all the devices under System by right clicking and checking, and it updated a few like PCI controllers. (I dont let windowsupdate update my drivers). doing this stabilized my frametime in some games like Overwatch and ApexJalen9762 likes this. -
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I'm pulling my hair out and need some serious help. I've done my due diligence and searched YouTube, this forum, and other references for all possible tweaks and solutions and nothing helps. In desperation, I'm posting here and hoping someone can help.
I have a GE75 Raider 8SG (RTX 2080, i7-8750H, 16 GB RAM, 500 GB SDD, 1 TB HDD). I purchased it in early/mid February. I'm in Canada.
I have used Intel XTU and ThrottleStop to undervolt core and cache (stable at -150 mV each), iGPU at -75 mV, and MSI afterburner to overclock GPU (+175 MHz GPU, +500 MHz memory). My synthetic graphical benches are great - 19800 FireStrike. Synthetic CPU is meh... ~ 1100 in CineBench 15. My CPU temperatures are crazy, idling 0% utilization at 55-65 degrees and hitting 97-99 in any game, resulting in thermal throttling. GPU will max out around 80 degrees. Battery drains slightly while playing games. Is this a thermal issue? Power issue? Is it just a lemon?
This is my issue: reviews (of stock systems) show framerates in Far Cry 5, GTA V, BFV, and others in the 90+ range, yet I average around 60 in all of those games, sometimes dropping into the mid-40s which is absolutely unacceptable. At the same time, it shows GPU utilization below 70% and CPU below 50%. I'm so frustrated - I've pushed my underclocks to BSOD until I found the absolute max I can get. I run turbo fans at all times to try to keep it under control. I have repasted, but nothing changed from stock paste to the junk Corsair paste I put on it. I feel like even if I used better paste, it's not going to result in a drastic temperature drop.
All drivers are up to date. I flashed the BIOS yesterday with the January version, though I see today that they released a new one today. Tonight I'll see if that makes any sort of a difference.
I'm getting 50-75% of the framerates I should be getting. I haven't modded the BIOS because I don't want to brick this thing. I'm going to factory reset it tonight and start from scratch. It seems like a laptop with incredible potential, and it wasn't cheap. I'm not happy.
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Even if it does make a significant difference, I wonder how I could get acceptable/good synthetic benchmarks but such junk performance in-game.
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Have you tried forcing full performance on the nvidia control panel (should be on manage 3d settings, power management mode), and then disable vsync on games to try and push the hardware to the limit?
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Around 1k Cinebench score and 1.2k after -125mv under-volt for both core and cache.
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What is the power setting that everyone uses? I heard if you put the battery on max performance it will over write the undervolt?
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so i did that , and it updates to a new bios automatically . the thing is ..from MSI official website , newest bios now is version E17E2IMS.106 ... is it safe to just let it be ? or should i rolled bck to the previous bios ?
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so far all seems OK tho both EC and BIOS ... no real changes both on temp and performance .
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