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I have there weren't any real differences. The issue is the Razer vbios has target power limit set at 80 watts. You can check this using Pascal TDP Tweaker. You want the target power limit to be 90+Watts in order to get sustained power draws at those levels.

These were thermal benchmarks from a while ago, but you can see the average power draws are both ~80 Watts for the original vbios and the Razer vbios running on a GS66 with an RTX 2070 Super Max-Q. Both the original and Razer vbios can hit 95 watts as a temporary peak spike in power usage, so don't read too much into that value from the HWINFO.

Original vbios
https://imgur.com/a/X66UMiG

Razer 90W vbios
https://imgur.com/a/zhuiFep

 

Sorry I meant the 80w to 90w of the 2080 super max-q. I've seen that the 2070 Super max-P or just plain 2070 super outperforms the 2080 super max-q so wanted to see if there was any way to get the 90w 2080 super bios and see some increased performance. But if the 2070 max-q seems to not get much then I guess i'll just stick to the 80w then.

 

You might be interested in this post here
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/2080-super-max-q-vbios.269070/

 

Thanks!

 

yes the2070 super 115w outperforms the 2080 super Max-q 80w but only just, the 90w version should be faster.

 

Just tried the 90w one and things reported kind of weird in gpu-z.

With Razer BIOS: https://imgur.com/F2Jn7lA

Original MSI BIOS: https://imgur.com/l6kBt9K

As you can see the boost clock is higher in the original MSI BIOS. I wonder if I got the wrong BIOS maybe? I downloaded it from the Reddit thread that was found on the techpowerup post from @werdmonkey4321

 

yea but it wont sustain em most probably if its hits power limit itll drop wic is why we need the higher limit...the laptop can probably cool 100w of gpu power no issues.....but msi gimped it to control thermals in pretty much all of em....but alot of the models come wit pretty decent cooling...funny thing is if a 115w 2060 bios shows up.....the 2060 model will rival te 2070

 

A 115w 2060 will likely be equal a 2070 super Max-q (80w) and be about as 10% slower than the 2070 super Max-q (90w).

Its the 2070 (115w) vs 2080 Max-q (80w/90w) debacle all over again. Power limit difference as well as the cuda core difference is exactly the same.

 

It seems that there might be updates in the future to enable Max-Q Dynamic Boost in the GS66.

 

oh? care to elaborate on how you came about that information?
That would be pretty exciting if true, but I thought nVidia said it had to be done my the manufacturer on the hardware level?

 

I was talking with an MSI tech earlier today about its possibility. He seemed to suggest it's not locked on the hardware level and is instead a software level lock.

 

im pretty sure its a combinagion of vbios and software....so im sure tey could do it if they wanted to

 

anyone know if the red paste thing on the heatsink is paste and can be replaced with thermal pads instead of thermal paste?

 

Yes, I would say it is a good idea to clean the factory mess and replace the paste with quality thermal pads. Here you can find recommended pad thickness
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/gvnsxj/gs66_thermal_pad_size_guide/

 

Yup saw that reddit because the poster of that reddit was lurking on this forum as well. I tried originally with some fujipoly and ended up with arctic cooling pads as he suggested.

 

Hardware Unboxed has tested the new 115W 2060 extensively, in comparison to the other cards in the range.



It's a massive improvement.

 

Yes I've watched the video and I'm aware that the 115w 2060 is a lot faster than the 80w/90w 2060.

But against the 2070 super Max-q, performance is exactly in line with what I said.

Take a look at the video again.

 

@nyichiban, I have found a vBios from the Zephyrus Duo 2080S Max-Q that might work with GS66 2080S Max-Q. This is my first run doing this sort of stuff so would you like to try it out? Here is the GPU-Z stuff. Think it'll work?

https://imgur.com/gallery/MqwmCsr

 

Looking at that GPU-Z screenshot it looks like it's the 80w variant. I think the 90W variant has base clock of 975, the 735 base clock is the 80w variant.

 

For th ose that upgraded the gs66 to 64gb ddr4, which memory did you use and if it ran at 3200? I bought some team group 32gb x 2 ddr4 3200 that booted but led to tons of bsod. Ended up returning it but the price was only 210 for it which was ridiculously cheap!

 

my gs65 @90w is pretty much on par with the new 115w one i think its the mem that holds the one back a bit

 

A tweaked 90w 2060 system will be on par with a 115w 2060 system. Likewise a tweaked 115w 2060 system will be faster than one from the factory.

 

Agreed....now if we can find a 90w 2070s Mq bios id be so happy!!!

 

Try this one

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/223002/223002

 

None of those RTX 2070 Super Max-Q vbios will work. All of them have target power limits set to 80W. I've tried them all before. @eurodj101, your only option right now to get higher power limits is to shunt mod if you have the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q card.

 

i do but im not brave enough

 

I have got a hold of the Lenovo 7i 2070 Super Max-Q's VBIOS that is set to do 105W max from internal source. The device ID is the 1DE1 one, would you dare to try and let us know?
I have the Omen 15 2020 with the same/sad 1E91 one, but doesn't have the ball to flash to it

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1APcdDIalVgmxBRNmhzOEHGgEvw-qw4JI/view?usp=sharing

 

So I already shunt modded my device, so I'm not messing around with vbios anymore. Running my RTX 2070 Super Max-Q at 120W on the GS66.

 

nah u good cause u brave enough some of us just wont go there

 

Just for those curious, my shunt mod is still at 98-99W using the 0.020 ohm resistors. My 0.010 ohm resistors haven't come in yet, so I've just been learning to play around with the voltage frequency curve a bit more to fine-tune the overclock. Here's my currect voltage/frequency curve

https://imgur.com/a/Y3MBHEc

+1100Mhz on memory. My Timespy Graphics score is now at 8745. This is again at 98-99W.

https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=&gpuId=1325&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=graphicsScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=

Right now I have the highest Timespy graphics score out of all the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q benchmarks put out there. Still not done fine tuning it yet. These are just preliminary results.

 

Anone remember what tweaks we have to do to improve speaker quality?

 

See this post here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops...sponse_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

You'll need to install Equalizer APO.

 

yeah someone @discord pointed me to it....i did it and sound a bit more flat for sure....but nothing to write home about....i guess its the best we can do...sounds a bit lower volume though

 

Just leaving photos of the VRMs and mosfets here for referencing in the future.

 

What is all that white gunk on your board? Thermal paste? Also wanted to ask about your shunt. Would you recommend a soldering iron? I was looking at: https://www.amazon.com/YIHUA-Profes...eywords=soldering+iron&qid=1599586244&sr=8-22 and also flux I assume I would need? My system is with the 2080 Super on the gs66 so I'm hoping I can use the same method you did and put the shunt in the same locations? Mind if I PM you about this?

 

What is all that white gunk on your board? Thermal paste?

-The white gunk is K5 pro thermal paste. I didn't finish cleaning it up before taking the picture.

Would you recommend a soldering iron?

-I don't have a particular recommendation but here is the one I am using. Its the Hakko FX888D

https://www.amazon.com/Hakko-FX888D...=1&keywords=hakko+fx880&qid=1599592749&sr=8-1

This is the solder I used. It already has flux in it. You just got to make sure your iron is sufficiently hot when soldering to make the pieces bond correctly, otherwise you get a cold solder joint.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AVLM4SO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would recommend you practice soldering first on some old junk PCBs to get a feel for how to solder. I also used a fine conical bent tip to do the solder. These were the tips I used. They're inexpensive and work decently.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZXZMPH7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You can ping some of the more experienced users on here for recommendations on equipment. I'm still very much a novice when it comes to these types of things. I just don't want to mislead you down an expensive path when a more inexpensive option is available.

My system is with the 2080 Super on the gs66 so I'm hoping I can use the same method you did and put the shunt in the same locations?

-Yes, that should be the case for the RTX 2080 Super Max-Q.

Mind if I PM you about this?

-Feel free to PM me or @seanwee. He is another user on here you shouldn't hesitate to contact. He has an engineering background, so if you have any technical concerns he's also a good person to reach out and talk to. He's the person who helped me when I was doing the shunt mod.

-Here's the thread with all the discussion about the shunt mod. The discussion starts on page 37

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ll-new-intel-10th-gen-msi-gs66.832403/page-37

 

Officially broke 20000+ overall score and 24000+ graphics score in Firestrike. Highest score on the leaderboards for the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q.

GS66 Stealth

Specs:
CPU - i7-10750H (undervolted -215.7mv Core, -107.4 cache)
GPU - RTX 2070 Super Max-Q shunt modded to 115-125W and overclocked
Ram - 32gb 2666MHz dual channel (stock)

Upgrades:
CPU/GPU - repasted with Thermalright Liquid Metal Silver King
VRMs/Nand - repasted with K5 pro
VRMs - 2 extra heatpipes for cooling

Official Score:
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23446724

Leaderboards:
https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#ad...de=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=

 

Thats what i get on my shunt modded 2080 without an oc, great job. Proud of the results you've achieved

 

I now have the highest Time Spy graphics and overall score in the world for the RTX 2070 Super Max-Q. There is still a lot of room left to overclock the card, but I think I can just leave it here now that I have the highest score worldwide for both Fire Strike and Time Spy. I'll leave a little bit of room to play around with later on when I get the overclocking itch.

GS66 Stealth

Specs:
CPU - i7-10750H (undervolted -215.7mv Core, -107.4 cache)
GPU - RTX 2070 Super Max-Q shunt modded to 115-125W and overclocked
Ram - 32gb 2666MHz dual channel (stock)

Upgrades:
CPU/GPU - repasted with Thermalright Liquid Metal Silver King
VRMs/Nand - repasted with K5 pro
VRMs - 2 extra heatpipes for cooling

Official Score:
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13807293

Leaderboards:
https://www.3dmark.com/newsearch#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=&gpuId=1325&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=

 

What’s the ox on the gpu?

 

I just got my GS66 and Im looking to undervolt. I got into the advanced bios menu and enabled XTU interface however all the voltage options are still disabled in XTU. I haven't heard of anyone with this issue so I'm very confused. I'm using 7.3.0.33 of XTU and I cant find older versions like I see people using in a lot of videos. Has anyone confirmed the latest XTU version allows undervolting?

 

Nowadays you also have to disable overclocking lock in the bios as well.

INFO: This is just a reminder that you need to disable Overclocking Lock in the bios to reenable undervolting. : MSILaptops (reddit.com)

 

use admin mode in bios
and try undervolt in bios only ,..,,.XTU "last time half/broken"
,.,.good app for testing ,,,but it is otherwise useless

hotkey in bios f2 + l alt + r ctrl + r shift
advanced/overclock domain

set "negative" offset for cpu or cpu + cache "in msi bios RING"
.,better way is still LOADLINE "but advanced translated all" VR DOMAIN

UNCORE in MSI - SA domain "ram oc"

around -100 -150mV max "any undervolt - less stability in critical situation // ideal must set CPU ratio limit "or get only more CPU CLOCK "under power limit"
and results from undervolt - minimal

iccmax - full cpu limit "for full load" "similar power limit"
or AVX offset "negative CPU ratio for any heavy load"

or try PL1 / PL2 "but this most time control FW in EC" or any hidden setting in bios

/////////// DRAGON CENTER --basic "clock limit // fan curve"
most time need only set better fan curve ,.,.,.try coolerboost - check results
set similar custom curve // normal profile for notebook

good luck

 

I have this laptop (MSI GS66 10SGS) with Core i9 10980HK, 32GB RAM, RTX 2080 Super (with 90W vBIOS), 300Hz 1080P.

My laptop sometimes would randomly (when gaming) get stuck into low power mode (CPU stuck at 800MHz and GPU stuck at 800Mhz). The only fix is to restart it.

It is running 112 BIOS and on coolerboost mode. I have also undervolted the CPU and cache to -85mv via throttlestop

Do I have a defective laptop?

 

Nope not a defect. That's thermal throttling because it is getting too hot. You probably need to repaste and use throttle stop to do some tweaks.

 

I have other different model laptops and they don't exhibit this issue.

The laptop DOES NOT recover even when left for 10s of minutes in coolerboost mode. The only workaround I found so far is to restart the computer.

The laptop is always on coolerboost mode and the CPU is undervolted to -85mv

 

DOnt just undervolt limit how high the cores speed gets....try aida to stress test and check.I have the same cpu albeit a 2070s and mine never does that....i do undervolt use TS custom profiles and have LM.