*** The Official 2019 MSI GS65 Stealth with RTX GPUs Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

Is screen good ? Do you have enough brightness ?
P.s sorry for my bad english

 

Worked fine for me too, just followed the instructions

 

So the GS75 is only 350 grams heavier (1.9kg vs 2.25kg) and a couple cm longer. Has 3 accesible (without sweating cold) SSD slots and a micro SD card reader. Plus screen is brighter and bigger. RTX2060 version costs the same as as GS65. The only minus is that the windows key was moved to the right (why?) and can connect to one fewer screen due to the lack of mini DP connection in GS75.

Apart from bigger size and a tad heavier is there any reason why not to pick the GS75 and pick the GS65? Maybe the GS75 have better thermals also. Also I believe both have the same AC adapter.

 

I was initially thinking about getting the gs75 myself, my last two laptops have been 17", the main things that discouraged me was the windows key > I use shortcuts all the time, and also the trackpad looks really poorly positioned > it looks nice centered, but it doesn't seem ideal for typing, especially since they made it extra wide.

I never use the numberpad, I wish they'd make 17" laptops with a nice desktop layout minus the pad, and use the extra space for some top firing speakers on either side

 

I think you can switch the function key with the right windows key using either auto hot key or the steel series software so that is less of an issue.

What I am a bit baffled is the trackpad position. I think this should have palm rejection.

 

Here's the original BIOS for the GS65 8SG if anyone needs it:

http://sk3tch.com/files/notebookreview/gs65_8sg/bios/E16Q4IMS.107.zip [6.60MB]

I had it on my disk because I was double-checking a couple of weeks ago that I had the latest.

 

For me it is the size. My whole travel setup is built on the 14" "regular" gaming laptop or 15" thin & light size. I also do not like how the keyboard is setup. Because of the numpad, it is not centered. That annoys me.

 

That's fair enough. The keyboard doesn't seem too off centre for me but its a matter of taste.

According to this reviewer at 0:40. The difference in size doesn't seem that big between gs75 and gs65. Also at the end of the video he concludes he prefers gs75 form factor over the 15inch... I'm so undecided between these 2!

 

I would get the GS75 if starting fresh. I just had the GS65 last year and it works great for me. I have cases that I bought for it, etc. (plus I have to carry two laptops for work trips). But for the added cost/size the GS75 is a no brainer if you like that size.

 

It's the form factor for me. I do a bit of travelling; cramped spaces means it's more difficult to whip out a 17" errr laptop, plus the added side-effect of having too many ladies on my lap.

There is no performance increase with the GS75. His 3D Mark score is identical to the GS65 stock and he's shown that it also thermal throttles. Thermal throttling can be removed on the GS65 (and presumably the GS75) with a simple undervolt. So if you can put up with the size of the thing, the benefits of going with the GS75 are:

• Bigger screen
• Numpad (pro or con?)
• Micro SD slot
• Easier access to SSDs (but not RAM, or heatpipes)
• Metal hinge (seems not as stiff as you'd think in the video, pro or con?)

The other thing that's hard to compare is the noise but I can't imagine it being significantly better. Power brick is also the same.

 

Well, I just successfully took my new GS65 apart and dropped a second NVMe drive in the second slot. All went well, or seemed to, and the machine came back up, no problems. Except now when I bring up the SteelSeries app, it says the keyboard isn't connected.

I'm typing on it now, so obviously it is, but the SteelSeries Engine 3 won't let me change the lighting or interact with it in any way.

I double-checked the connectors... Any guesses as to what I might have goofed?

 

Try uninstalling then reinstalling thensoftware


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That did the trick. Fascinating. Thank you sir!

 

So... any GS 65 2070 MQ can confirm the machine is ok?

Looking into buying one and run the 90W vbios. I heard it run hot. I'm not someone who is that bothered about thermals unless they heavily kill performance through heavy throttling..

Need to decide quick as I have an RMA on the way for my current RTX 15" Tongfang, can still cancel but don't think i can leave with this keyboard, seems worse than what users have been reporting.

Thanks!

 

Yeah, I am still getting a GS75, and will gladly test the 90w version. I understand the nervousness about flashing the 150w bios, and you are entirely correct: I am sure that attempting to game on it would auto kill/protect the PSU and shut down the laptop or if the switch from power to battery is fast, throttle quickly to battery mode.

I hope we eventually learn to modify the vbios to get the desired performance level. I wanted to attempt a 100w since that was the GTX1080's Max Q TDP.

 

Folks! What kind of frame rates are you all getting in BF V ultra without RTX?

 

I was also tossing up between the GS65 and GS75 for the reasons you mentioned but ultimately went with the GS65 because, basically the size, I'm worried that something bigger might bend more easily in my backpack, or even not fit.

Secondly, it looks uncomfortable to type on for an extended period with the touchpad position right below where you'd rest your right palm. The GS65 also has this problem but doesn't seem as bad

 

How can a maxed out 2019 GS65 with appropriate mods, physical and BIOS, compare to my Alienware 17R5 laptop with i9 8950hk and mobile GTX 1080 in terms of gaming and rendering performance?

 

Look at my review, run the same tests and benchmarks with my exact settings, and compare for yourself.
Right off the bat, your CPU should be faster unless you’re thermal or power throttling.
Your GPU should be slightly slowly if not equivalent to the 2080 Max-Q.

 

Anyone been able to get the 418+ drivers from the GeForce experience yet?

 

on my 2080 max-q they downloaded and installed last night on first attempt.

 

I have the 2060 model which I think is trickier than the 2080 max-q as even with a fresh DDU and DCH drivers I can't get them to install.

 

I got my laptop a few days ago and have spent a good amount of time getting it dialed in but noticed something odd. Tapping on the trackpad sounds loose or hollow. I tightened the screws that hold it in place but it didn't make any difference. Has anyone else experienced this?

 

Using JReys trick of putting the laptop into airplane mode and DDU, I was able to get 418 drivers working. No issues with installation or Nvidia control panel.

 

Nevermind, figured it out!

 

Hi guys,
Just saw this video passing by for the GS75. I just ordered my GS65 through HIDEvolution but I was hesitant with the razer blade 15 because of this frame rigidity issue. Is it that bad on the GS65? In the video, at some point he's bending the bottom part of the notebook over the table and that scared the **** out of me.
Thanks.

 

I owned the 2018 GS65 and now I have a new one with the 2080 MQ - the flex/rigidity problems are there, but they have improved since last years release. In my opinion, it is a non-issue - even last year I had no problems. I think there are just a lot of people using MacBooks (I am one of them) regularly and their expectations now are reset to that level. When you're dealing with high end components in a thin & light chassis that is not unibody design, there will be flex - in my opinion it is very normal flex and in the 2019 GS65 it is improved significantly. I did not see the video that you mention - so just commenting on my experience.

I wouldn't worry. You made a great choice. If flex is a serious worry, get a Razer Blade Advanced and an extended warranty (Razer support sucks).

 

Thanks a lot man. And yeah I currently own a MBP too so my expectations are also at that level aha. And for Razer I wouldn't get any warranty at all from the manufacturer with HIDEvolution anyway so I didn't have much of a choice. Thanks!

 

The 2019 GS65 I have does not have flex -at least for my definition of flex. There's some give near the power button, there's also some on the lid/screen, but no more than any other ultrabook

 

Hey guys,

Sorry, just reposting my earlier Q in case someone ca help me?

I have been a Dell user since long and have bought my laptops via friends in US and got them here via them (I live in India). Dell is awesome with international warranty and support (after ownership/warranty transfer).

Until recently, I was using a 1070 based A15R3 which I just sold off as I couldn't just lug it around anymore.

Question is, if I go in for the GS65 with 2070, will MSI have any provisions for ownership / warranty transfer?

Appreciate any help!

Thanks,
Ckhurana.

 

I seem to have broke Optimus. I've ran DDU in safe mode to uninstall Intel and nvidia drivers and reinstalled everything while in airplane mode but the LED indicator stays orange. I've tried to install nvidia's latest drivers and the drivers on MSI's website. Has anyone else ran into this issue?

 

Had this issue.
If you have Steam.exe launched - it will hog the nvidia GPU.
You need to change the settings in nvidia control panel to use integrated gpu with steam.

 

Are you using afterburner? That’ll keep your dGPU on.
Also, try using this. I notice a slight performance improvement. You’ll see you can checkbox Optimus support.
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-driver-slimming-utility.423072/
Keep whatever you want, but make sure NGX Core (DLSS stuff) and USB C driver are checked as well.


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I have steam.exe set to use integrated graphics. Still no optimus.

I will try this and report back.

 

I was looking at optimus last night as well, I had to install the nvidia control panel from the ms store and turned on the option to show gpu activity in the taskbar, which shows if and what apps are using the GPU. It shows none are, while at the same time the LED is amber showing it's in use. Maybe it's the early drivers we have atm

 

Yea same results here. The skimmer app is pretty cool though but still no Optimus.

 

Check your task manager to see if anything is activating the dGPU.
Also, did you install the latest bios and firmware? I recall there was something about battery mode and nvidia in there...


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Yes as suggested above, go to Nvidia control panel and enable taskbar icon that shows you what apps are using the dgpu. Steam should have something like steamwebhelper.exe or video_gui.exe running on the gpu. Change the settings for those in the Nvidia cpanel and you should be good.

 

I've bought my GS65 (RTX2060) yesterday, and after clean install OS (only driver from msi site worked) I've the same problem :/
It shows no app running on RTX, don't have steam installed. Nothing's in the background and led is orange + system shows about 2,5h left with full battery...

Also it's terribly loud, after one day I'm seriously thinking of returning it and going back to my GT62.

 

I’ve updated the bios and ec firmware. Weird thing is the nvidia task manager says the dgpu is inactive but the light still remains orange. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.

 

Can you download HWINFO64?
Restart your computer then run it.
In there, you can see GPU activity. If it’s all 0 with no clock speeds or anything showing, then the dGPU is off and the LED is just lagging to change color. Mine takes about 30 seconds to become white at startup and sign in.

Also, check your startup apps. Something in the background may be triggering the dGPU (it was afterburner for me

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I’ve disabled everything in the start up and let it sit for about 5 min now. Still orange lol. I’m gonna do a factory reset and see if that fixes it.

 

Task manager process, and sort by GPU, I believe GPU-1 is dGPU and GPU-0 is iGPU.

Terms may be different, I forget.

Disable hardware acceleration in Chrome and strangely winword64.exe sometimes uses dGPU.

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Hey guys.
With renewed interest in flashing a full laptop 2080 into my device, I went into the 2019 GT75 owners club to find some GPU-Z screen shots.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...9-nvidia-rtx-2080.826953/page-8#post-10862651

Looking at the screenshot, it confirms that the laptop 2080 is a DIFFERENT BOARD (1ED0) than my board (1E90). With this finding, I'm not going to pursue flashing my GPU further than the 90w variant I have.
Sad day.
Unless I can find someone that can modify a vBIOS with higher wattage and clocks, I'll be sticking to my 80w and 90w BIOS collection LOL.

 

Don't be sad, the GS65 2080 Max-Q is still a beast!

 

Perhaps you should try a GE75 variation? the GT75 is an MXM module, so I assume the GE75 is the closest one and probably soldered like GS?

 

Really? MXM is still a thing? lol. I'll see what the GE75 guys have...

 

@ryzeki
Interestingly, the Acer Predator Triton 500 has a 2080 Max-Q and has the same GPU ID as the GT75...
https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Acer/Predator_Triton_500/gpu1.jpg

Whats even more interesting is mine states it's a Max-Q design chip while the Acer states it's a 2080...
Now I wonder if there's 2 GPUs SKUs that are hardware and bios locked.

 

Hey, I'm from India too and I did explore this option. Turns out MSI doesn't provide warranty for US purchased products.

 

I had the same issue when I tried to DDU the drivers and update with the new ones. Optimus broke. The only way I fixed it was by doing a factory reset (Not clean install).