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    *The Offical MSI GX60 Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by layjohn, Oct 12, 2012.

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    It is officially on pre-order for U.S at least.
    This thread is a complete copy cat of ViciousXUSMC's GT60&GT70 thread haha....
    I did as much as I can so far, I'll gradually update as the GX60 being released.

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    • Genuine Windows® 8 64Bits
    • AMD Quad-Core A10-Series processor
    • AMD Radeon™ HD 7970M Discrete Class Graphics
    • AMD Eyefinity Multi-Display Technology Support
    • Super RAID with 2 SSD RAID0 gives you over 1000MB/s (optional)
    • Killer Gaming Networking for priority online gaming
    • Exclusive Audio boost design for crystal clear audio fidelity
    • A Keyboard made just for gamers by SteelSeries
    • THX TruStudio Pro provides excellent surround sound effect
    • 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) anti-glare LCD panel in LED backlight

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    The GX60, MSI's latest and greatest generation gaming notebook, features AMD's newest high-end HD 7970M discrete graphics card with excellent 3D performance and amazing visuals that increase game realism. The all-new 28nm graphics core supports DirectX®11 technology, world-class PowerTune Technology, and Enduro display switching technology to throttle up performance and extend battery time as you enjoy a high-performance, high-resolution gaming experience.

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    The MSI GX60 supports AMD Eyefinity Technology which features innovative three-screen display capabilities, allowing you to output to three displays simultaneously using HDMI, VGA, and mini-DisplayPort. You can show one picture (i.e., videos, graphics) on multiple displays or different pictures on multiple displays.


    - The one picture, multiple display replicates an image on multiple screens, extending the picture to the left and right edge of your field of vision for a more panoramic viewing experience.
    - The multiple picture, multiple display setting assigns each screen a different task.
    Eyefinity's full-screen offers a more immersive visual experience.


    Super RAID with 2 SSD RAID0 gives you over 1000MB/s reading speed!!* (optional)
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    The first Super RAID design—one notebook with two mSATA SSD RAID 0 (128GBx2) units, is yet another world first courtesy of MSI. Two mSATA SSDs and one HDD can be installed in the same laptop without the need to expand the size of the laptop, increasing read, write, and saving speeds.

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    The GX60 represent the first time that MSI has incorporated Killer™ Gaming Networking - Killer™ E2200 Intelligent Networking into its notebooks, endowing them awesome online speeds. The Advanced Game Detect™ technology recognizes online game data packs and processes them first, accelerating them in the process. The best weapon against stuttering characters, freeze-ups, and lagging, it vastly improves the prowess of online gamers. Now, whether FPS or MMO gaming is your cup of tea, you’ll have that extra edge you need to be victorious.

    The Real Deal: A Keyboard Made Just for Gamers
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    1. Exclusive keyboard position and golden triangle layout to offer faster and longer-lasting keyboard action

    Better Size and Position: Enlarge “Ctrl” key size, move Windows key to right side.

    2. Just solid!

    MSI has improved the resilience and tactile feedback of each and every key. Users will no longer have to deal with flimsy keys.

    3. Multi Keys Input

    MSI's gaming keyboard supports simultaneous pressing of multi keys, allowing users to issue commands rapidly and respond to games with precision.

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    THX TruStudio Pro is specially designed to bring the same great audio experience found in live performances, films, and recording studios— to the PC. THX TruStudio Pro provides the latest groundbreaking technologies that are products of years of collective experience and research by Creative and THX. Together, these technologies deliver the fullest audio experience for music, movies and games, while remaining true to the source and intention of the artists who created it.

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    In the other hand, the MSI Audio Boost design enhances sound output by 30%. The gold flash audio jack provides stable sound transmission (reduced obstruction) and works in conjunction with the optimized AMP (Audio Power Amplifier) design, characterized by low noise and low distortion, to greatly enhance headphone performance and faithfully reproduce each acoustic detail.


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    Places to buy
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    XoticPC: MSI GX60 1AC-021US - XOTIC PC - 15.6" MSI Gaming Notebook
    PowerNotebooks: Powernotebooks- MSI GX60 1AC-021US
     
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    Hrm...

    $1200, which is about the same price as the 3610m/GTX 660M GE60. Ships with Windows 8, which I haven't used yet. Could be interesting.

    I'll be interested in seeing how the 4600m performs. I do x264 encoding on my GE60, so I want to see how much slower it is compared to my 3610m. Also, I hope Enduro works considering it's an all-AMD machine.
     
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    Yaa you can say that GX60 is more game orientated, and GT,GE are more for everyday stuff, but still do decent on most games.

    However, if someone is getting a laptop for game, keep this in mind, GX60 is a full 100-200 dollars cheaper.
     
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    Excuse my ignorance provided I'm wrong, but if the cpu does bottleneck the 7970M, wouldn't the GT/GE be more for gaming than the GX60?
     
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    There are already many reviews out (mainly on the Chinese forums), they did a good amount of real life gaming benchmarks, and the results are not bad.

    The CPU does not bottleneck as bad as people thought, in fact I personally don't see any bottle necks.

    They done test on games such as BF3, Diablo 3, etc. these games are pretty CPU intensive, since they involve alot of physics calculations. They all ran perfectly fine, in fact, beyond the playable frame rates.

    Of course these are all based on others' reviews, I would like to personally test this thing out though.. =]
     
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    If you compared an i7/7970m system to a 4600m/7970m system, yeah, the 4600m will have lower FPS. The AMD chip will bottleneck it, but exactly how much is up for debate.

    The real selling point of the GX60 is the price. You get a top-tier card for the same price you'd get for an i7/660M machine. Plus, it comes with a lot of bells and whistles. That $1200 USD base config comes with a matte screen and a BR ODD. It's just missing a backlit keyboard.

    From a pure gaming standpoint, I have no doubt it'll outperform anything lower than and i7/680m or i7/7970m combo. It might be neck-and-neck with an i7/675MX machine depending on the game.

    As I mentioned in my other post, I'm not concerned with the gaming performance. For that price, it'll be one hell of a gamer. I'm more worried about how it'll handle non-gaming activities. As I mentioned, I like to encode video, so I'm concerned how it'll handle encoding.
     
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    Encoding wise, there were alot of test beens done on the Trinity APU already, forgot where, but I seen the comparison on A10, with i5, i7 etc. and the test included word processing, Excel stuff, video encoding. And no doubt....A10 is significantly slower than the i7s and even the i5. I remember on one of the video encoding test, the A10 was like 5times slower than the i7.

    But as long as it gets the job done, within a reasonable time frame, I don't mind spending 200 bucks less just for that extra 10sec.

    By the way, regarding back-lit keyboard. It was confirmed that there IS a plug for the LED lights under the keyboard, which mean in the future if anyone actually wants a steel series back-lit keyboard, it is upgradable. Not sure if those keyboard will sell separately though.. o_O
     
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    I guess i'll reveal it here, i have it coming on monday/tuesday.....
     
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    Nice Meaker! What configuration did you get??

    Looks like Gentech PC has it up for preorder for $1200, pretty decent price considering that is not even the barebone model. I hope Gentech gets a barebone that is a bit cheaper (900-1000 perhaps).

    Also the Gentech model has a backlit keyboard included. I would love to throw 2 Momentus XT 750gb in Raid 0.. sacrifice a little speed for a ton of storage (My 120gb SSD is always >90% full)
     
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    I am kinda bummed, i had hoped it would sell closer to $999. I am in the market to get a budget gaming laptop, right now im leaning towards the lenovo Y580 (ivy bridge i7 w/660M) for $800-$850.

    still, looking forward to more reviews.
     
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    Specification:-
    - 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) LED backlight, Anti-glare
    - AMD Quad Core A10-4600M 2.30 GHz Processor (Boost 3.20GHz)
    - AMD A70M FCH
    - 8GB DDR3 (4G*2)
    - AMD Radeon HD 7660G Onboard Graphics
    - AMD Radeon HD 7970M 2GB GDDR5 Graphics
    - 750GB (SATA) 7200rpm
    - DVD Super Multi Drive
    - 3x USB3.0
    - 1x USB2.0
    - Card Reader (SD(XC/HC)/MMC)
    - 1x HDMI (v1.4)
    - 1x Dsub
    - 2x Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer
    - THX TruStudio Pro
    - 7.1 Audio Channels
    - Mic-in/Headpphone out 1/1/1(line in)/1(line out)
    - SPDIF: Yes
    - Wireless LAN (AW-NB100H Combo (b/g/n)
    - Bluetooth v4.0
    - Gigabit Killer E2200 LAN
    - Webcam: HD type (30fps@720p)
    - 102 key chocolate non-backlight keyboard
    - 9-Cell Li-Ion
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    - Turbo Battery+
    - Dimensions: 395 x 267 x 55mm
    - 3.5Kg (w/ Battery)
    - 2 year pick-up and return
     
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    Anyone know if there will be a SuperRAID version of this GX60?
     
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    Yes, you can preorder it in the uk. It may not be available in other regions.

    They tried delivering today but I was not in :( but it's coming tomorrow.
     
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    Looking forward to your opinion, I have been looking at this laptop to replace my desktop and hopefully it should do what I need.
     
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    Damn late delivery slot, will be another 3 hours at least :/
     
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    No built in turbo :( Just a "P1" function like barebone units.
     
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    Stock vcore is 1.0v so you can expect 950-975mhz core clocks.

    Is quite happy at 1.05v for 1020mhz (thanks svl7) looking at p4800ish with a graphics score of 6700ish at that point.
     
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    1.05v and 1020 mhz is the furthest you can push this thing to? I would love to see you do some real life CPU test, such as encoding video and what not,

    and maybe compare to your i7 or i5 if you got any

    Edit: I suggest using Super Pi, and WPrime, for some bench marks =]
     
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    Subscribed. Looking forward to more testing of your GX60 Meaker.
     
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    Meaks, you could try this x264 benchmark. Could you run it in 32-bit?
     
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    For the sake of comparison, here's the A10-4655M's x264, 3DMark and CineBench results.
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    AMD A10 4655m Benchmarks
    I have yet to see a comprehensive review for that chip, so I decided I will quickly bench mine and post the results here.

    The machine is a Samsung 535u4C configured as follows:

    A10-4655m APU
    8GB RAM (512MB allocated for the iGPU)
    Samsung 830m 128GB SSD
    14" 1366*768 display

    and here are the results:

    CineBench R11.5 64Bit CPU ST: 0.57 Points
    CineBench R11.5 64Bit CPU MT: 1.69 Points
    CineBench R11.5 64Bit OpenGL :25.39 FPS

    PCMark Vantage : 8928

    3DMark 11 : 893 3D Marks
    3DMark 11 Graphics : 814
    3DMark 11 Physics : 2193
    3DMark 11 Combined : 773

    x264 (32Bit) Pass 1 : 16.27 FPS
    x264 (32Bit) Pass 2 : 3.81 FPS

    Star Craft 2 (1366 * 768 @ medium quality) : 32 FPS

    The machine feels smooth and snappy, using Linux in a VM is snappy as well, compiling times are not great though, mostly due to weak single threaded performance, but you get spare CPU power to use for something else while long builds take their time.
     
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    Just bought one from overclockers and its been delivered tomorrow so hopefully will be able to put it through its paces.

    Phil
     
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    Hey do you guys know when this laptop will be officially released? I've been looking for places to buy it online and only xotic pc and amazon showed up. Do you think there might be black friday/cyber monday deals for this model too?
     
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    Well guys, it's a no go on overclocking the CPU, the best you can do is lock in the 2.7ghz state using amd PSCheck.

    AMD overdrive crashes the system and even with all options unlocked in the bios there are no options to help.
     
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    can you explain to me how does the auto boost works? supposedly it is suppose to boost itself to 3.3ghz when it's under stress, is it happening during your stress tests?
     
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    have are games running on this laptop? very interested by it..
     
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    Just installed my SSD and a fresh copy of windows - hate all the crap that is bundled into laptops normally. Will get world of warcraft and bf3 running later on.
     
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    Can the SSD be installed with the 750GB drive ? Looking forward to hear how it runs games.
     
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    Yea it can but im doing that as im using the 750GB (which is a WD black edition) in the laptop im selling.
     
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    @ Meaker, are you using the ATI drivers from the CD / that came installed or have you found some new ones? Im unsure which drivers to select of AMD's website to check if there is any new versions
     
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    Intall any drivers over the original set.
     
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    Did you just use the ATI detection tool. Its just that in the notes it says its not compatible with systems with switchable graphics, which these laptops have.

    Also just done a LFR 25 man on WOW MOP, with everything on ultra and 16x AA at 1980x1020 it was running about 20-30 fps, which isn't too bad.

    Phil

    Well i installed the latest version from the detection tool and it seems to still work, no improvement of FPS though that i can see.
     
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    Actually, I forgot to ask a big question, Meaker:

    Is Enduro working correctly?
     
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    I only thought it was the intels and ati cards that suffer from that problem.

    This is amd and ati
     
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    So how does it game ? :hi2:

    From everything I have read the cpu bottlenecks the gpu badly and causes issues. Is this true or is it actually quite good ?
     
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    I'm in the process of tuning, at the moment it looks like utilisation is good.
     
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    Can anyone save GX60 gpu bios with gpu-z and upload it here?
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    What you using to clock it, msi afterburning doesn't allow it?

    *edit* notice you using the 12.9 beta drivers, so maybe that unlock clocking of the cards ;)

    *edit 2* 12.9 drivers installed but still cant overclock with msi afterburner. So need you to share your expertise meaker if possible :)

    *edit 3* Found how to overclock it using msi afterburner :) - lets see what clocks i can get
     
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    very nice find of GX60 :) im kinda tempted since had GX660R and loved it...

    @ Maeker: did you order yours from overclockers.co.uk? or elsewhere? Im curious why you got no turbo button just P1 instead...

    @everyone who has bought cheaper version of GX60 that does not come with dual mSATA SSD raid setup, does it still comes with the mSATA ports or just secondary SATA port for 2.5" HDD/SSD ?
     
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    Limited clocking on my unit it would appear, can get it much beyond 950/1400 on clocks. Seems very core dependent on whether it will run or not. My best 3D mark 11 score is 4939

    @Ultra, yes all came from overclockers as they have UK exclusivity on it ;) . When i swapped my SSD into it i didn't see the mSATA SSD ports on the second slot just another SATAslot.
     
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    oh... as I expected...thats quite sad, I thought I will grab one GX60 as there 899gbp right now, and then pair it up with pair of mSATA ssd's + 1TB HDD that would do one nice setup laptop... bit disapointing..... did you not get TURBO button just P1 too?
     
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    Nope not turbo button, just a p1
     
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    oh daym... I nearly bought one...
     
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    I'll get you some gaming numbers, because the graphics score can reach the 7k region, I am having problems with GFWL not letting me log in so actually running things is tricky atm :/

    The non-mSATA version has 2x2.5" Gen3 slots + Gen3 ODD slot as far as I can tell.

    I am using a higher voltage Vbios at 1.075V to reach those clocks.
     
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    cool, thanks... I wonder if AMD will pop some new CPUs down the line in the next year that will be compatible with GX60 socket, something like at least 2x performance of current A10-4600m ..

    I think you had GX660R before, if Im correct, can you please tell me the sound quality comparison GX660R to new GX60? It seem to have exact same dYnaudio speakers setup...?
     
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    I had a 16F2 and it seems pretty comparable.

    I know AMD has promised the FM2 desktop socket will at least receive a refresh which is compatible, so there is a chance that will go over to the notebook side of things.

    However I would prefer a 4650K with unlocked multiplier and a program to set it and a 45W TDP.
     
  48. UltraGSM

    UltraGSM ...so many Alienwares...

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    yea interesting thought too, a10-4600m uses FM1 socket, so does desktop amd APUs of new gen... wonder if these can be interchanged...? desktop chip in GX60
     
  49. Valkyriem

    Valkyriem Newbie

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    I am sorry, this could be a stupid query but seeing as there are not too man GX60s out there this is the only place to raise it.

    I got my GX60 today from OverclockersUK, and for some reason both Device Manager and one of the games I installed (Amnesia) seem to suggest that the video card installed is a AMD Radeon HD 7660G. Furthermore, an online test on System Requirements Lab has also suggested the same thing and indicated dedicated VRAM is only 512MB, I have a feeling I am perhaps doing something wrong.

    But can anyone confirm this, and if so tell me what might be the resolution? Much appreciated.
     
  50. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    That's normal, the games/apps are detecting the integrated GPU and not the dedicated one. Just make sure your programs are set to run on the dedicated GPU and you should be fine.
     
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