MSI GT73VR 7RF Titan Pro-425 Review By Ultra Male

Specifications:

MSI GT73VR 7RF Titan Pro-425

CPU: Intel Kaby Lake i7-7820HK @ 4.2 GHz
Memory: Kingston MSI24D4S7D8MB-16 2400 MHz.(17-17-17-39) 64GB DDR4 RAM
GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5
Thermal Paste: IC Diamond on the CPU + GPU using the X Cross Method
Screen: Chi Mei N173HHE-G32 17.3" FHD 120 Hz/5ms screen (G-SYNC)
Wireless: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265
Storage: 2x Samsung 960 PRO 2TB [Super RAID 4] + 850 EVO 1TB m.2 + 850 EVO 4TB SSDs
Mouse: Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum Wireless Gaming Mouse
Power: 330W AC Power Adapter
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

Price as Configured: $8000 USD

Where to buy: HIDevolution

 

Video Review:



MSI GT73VR Titan Pro Screen Bezel Disassembly




4.2 GHz Overclocking settings for the i7-7820HK:

 

Benchmarks:

Note: The benchmarks were run with HWiNFO in the background for monitoring the temps. The scores would be higher by around 10% if I didn't have HWiNFO in the background

PassMark Performance Test 8



3DMark11 - GTX 1080 (378.66) CPU 4.2 GHz-GPU OC 150-350 [W10]



CPU @ 4.2 GHz / Cache Ratio @ 4.0 GHz
GPU Core @ 200 MHz / Memory @ 350 MHz

Fire Strike - GTX 1080 (378.72) CPU 4.2 GHz-GPU OC 200-350 [W10]



Time Spy - GTX 1080 (378.66) CPU 4.2 GHz-GPU OC 150-350 [W10]



CINEBENCH-7820K @ 4.2 GHz-1080 GTX @ 150-350 MHz:



wPRIME:



AS SSD Benchmark:



CrystalDiskMark:



ATTO Disk Benchmark:

 

Internals of the laptop:



Love the m.2 drives heatsink on this laptop, covers all the three m.2 SSDs to ensure that they don't overheat:

 

Nice. You could start with ATTO Disk Benchmark v3.05 as first benchmark See if you can run with decent temp. The m.2 drives heatsink will most likely help.

Spoiler: ATTO benchmark with my *LOW END* 950 Pro

No fans

With maxed fans

 

Just ran a 3DMark11 test with the CPU overclocked to 4.2 GHz on all cores. GPU at stock speeds. GSYNC = ON. FAST SYNC = ON. Texture Quality = HIGH. Power Management = Adaptive

I can obviously get a higher score by setting the GPU to High Performance and the texture filtering to High Performance but I wanted to show you how performance would be in a normal users' usage scenarios, that is, with adaptive power management to not make the GPU always work on the highest clock speeds which wouldn't make sense if you're watching a movie or browsing the web, and I also kept GSYNC enabled but with FAST SYNC enabled for the Vertical Sync. that way, the max FPS isn't limited to the screen refresh rate but you still won't get any screen tearing.

 

BTW, in the above tests, the fans were on auto not max speed. I could barely hear them spinning. This laptop's cooling is awesome and it's very quiete

 

What size stripe did you decide to use for your raid?

 

I initially wanted 64K but then a user here posted an image from the MSI manual where they suggest 128K for SSD m.2 RAID 0 so I went with that.

 

4.2 GHz on all cores stable overclock:

 

Here are the BIOS Settings for the above overclock. First apply the XTU settings then reboot and set your BIOS like this. If you don't set these BIOS values, then the overclock only starts reflecting after 2 mins when you boot into Windows but if you set them in the BIOS, the overclock is there from the start:

 

I'm a bit disappointed, the laptop runs hot even with IC Diamond re-paste.

Edit:

Wait, I just noticed it's an overclocked temps. I'll take back what I said.

 

did you try to undervolt by -100mV and what clocks are we talking about?

 

I mean the temp in during your benchmark with GT73VR, I thought you were running benchmark in default clock speed and havin a temp of 83-88 C but I noticed it was overclocked to 4.1 GHz causing the temp to ramp up totally acceptable.

 

ohh ok, on the 4.1 GHz I didn't even undervolt and the fans were on Auto not max so all good

now I'm undervolted by -100 mV @ 4.2 GHz

 

Due to the awesome m.2 SSD Heatsink on my MSI GT73VR Titan Pro, look at how low the SSD temps are:

 

I still wait to see what your 960 Pro and the nice M.2 heatsink can manage with ATTO Disk Benchmark v3.05

 

ATTO Disk Benchmark 2x 960 Pro in Super RAID 4

 

And temp?
I beat you up to 8K. Then it's over But this is with a single old lady(950 Pro)

 

HWiNFO doesn't show the temp for a RAID Array so not temp for you bro

 

No problem. Yooo haven't throttling And raid will give yoo lower temp Tested Hwmonitor or Aida64 for temp rading? Or is there no software who can read temp for ssd's in raid?

 

Full system back image taken 02:50 minutes only, that includes the entire Adobe CC 2017 Suite installed, Office 2016, all my apps (which are over 30 apps), Windows updated to the latest version.

Check the write speeds:



@Papusan

 

@Papusan

New ATTO Disk Benchmark taken before installing NOD32 Antivirus in order to eliminate any performance decrease from the AV:

 

How dangerous is it to increase the current limit? With an increase to 320, I have no current throttle issues at 4 ghz...same with 4.1ghz at 332.

Machine on stock paste has never had any temp or power throttle issues so far...undervolts fairly well too

 

It's fine, the machine will only use what it needs, by raising the current limit you are just telling it that should you need more, it's available for you.

With that said, I decreased my power limits back to 200 from the 300 I had before but increased the current limit from 75A to 100A in XTU (appears as a value of 400 in the BIOS) and that alone fixed the throttling. just keep it @ 100A

 

@Phoenix You wasn't interested in DRAMless SSDs ? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramless-ssd-roundup,4833.html

 

have you checked for temp under Drives Tab in HWINFO or Crystal Disk Info can read your temps in RAID.

 

doesn't show the temps for a RAID Array, but I tried copying large amounts of data to the 1TB 850 EVO and the temps were max at 40C thanks to the SSD heatsink in the laptop

 

Even if you're SSD is throttling the speeds are very good to notice a dip in perf.

 

Hi in start i'm sorry for my english.
I've got GT73VR 6RE 6820hq + 1070.
I'm only can get stable 4.0 when i try to 4.1 aplicatiion going to error crash.
When i got stock bios option and cpu on turbo mode in dragon center with settings: all cores at 4.0 gpu core +150 and memory +250 every thing work fine temp are good, and laptop work stable even when gaming over 3-4 hour on high end games.
When i change any setting in bios i've got lower score in 3DMark. Sometime crash at second graphic test and dot give score at cpu.
Stock:
Adjust CPU Ratio: 36
Adjust Ring Ratio: 36
CPU Core Voltage: 0
CPU Core Voltage Offset: 0
CPU Ring Voltage: 0
Clock Frequency: 10000
VR Current Limit: 0
Power Limit: 200
Power Limit: 200

I was try:

Adjust CPU Ratio: 36
Adjust Ring Ratio: 36
CPU Core Voltage: 0
CPU Core Voltage Offset: 0
CPU Ring Voltage: 0
Clock Frequency: 10000
VR Current Limit: 400
Power Limit: 230
Power Limit: 230

Adjust CPU Ratio: 36
Adjust Ring Ratio: 36
CPU Core Voltage: 0
CPU Core Voltage Offset: 0
CPU Ring Voltage: 0
Clock Frequency: 10000
VR Current Limit: 400
Power Limit: 300
Power Limit: 300

And in dragon center in comfort mode i've got same score as in not modify bios. But when turn turbo mode @4.0 I've got lover score at cpu.

When change Adjust CPU Ratio to 42 windows crash unless i change CPU Core Voltage Offset at 100 then windows normal starts but sore on cpu are lower stable work at 4.1 but score are same as on drafon center comfort with stock bios at 4.2 app sometimes crash

When i change Adjust Ring Voltage to 40 then i can get stable 4.2 but score are little low as stock bios + [email protected] and temp are higher.

 

@Phoenix Can you tell us more about your overall experience with the GT73VR after some days of use? Keyboard, exterior temperature, noise levels, good stuff, bad stuff, annoying stuff.....

 

Keyboard = heaven
exterior temperature = ice ice baby
noise levels = silent compared to my previous Clevo
good stuff = works out of the box, the best screen on any laptop I've had, 120hz / 5 ms FHD FTW, great performance, good driver support / fast downloads from MSI
bad stuff = Fast Boot doesn't stick when you enable it in the BIOS but MSI are working with me on that and it will be fixed soon, nothing serious though

 

You wouldn't notice any difference because RAIDed SSDs are already fast.

 

Ssd's in raid or single drive doesn't matter. All depends if the RAID controller can handle the additional bandwidth. If not, will a single ssd boot faster. But fast boot doesn't make the big difference for ssd's.

 

Yes you would. From the moment you hit that power button, it takes around 5-8 seconds till you see the splash screen because Fast Boot isn't working.

If Fast Boot was enabled and working, you would see the Windows loading animation within 1-2 seconds as it skips all the hardware checks, hence why it's called Fast Boot.

My Wife's Dell Vostro laptop from 2014 boots faster than my beast.

MSI are now aware of the issue and were able to replicate it on a similar model like mine. Their other models like the 6RE have Fast Boot Enabled and it stays that way.

They have now forwarded this issue to their engineers and it will be fixed soon

Having an SSD has nothing to do with how fast you see the splash screen of Windows loading, that's the issue at hand, it takes ages till you see that animation.

 

you guys are talking about a different thing, I am not talking about the OS Fast Boot which basically doesn't fully shutdown a system but does a hybrid shutdown / hibernation so it starts faster the next time you turn it on. I am talking about the BIOS Fast Boot, 2 totally different things

 

I was confused with Windows Fast boot and Quick Boot. How to check if my PC uses Quick Boot without going into BIOS, cause my BIOS doesn't come with one.
Anyway, your PC has lot of hardware and other sensors than Vosto's. So less hardware means less time to do a basic diagnostic.

 

Simple........

Turn off your laptop......

Press the power button.......

then tell me....

1) how long does it take till you see the BIOS Logo splash screen

2) How long till you see the Windows loading animation / icon

If you see it starts loading Windows almost instantly, then Fast boot is on and active

if it takes 5 to 10 seconds till you see the BIOS Logo / Windows loading animation, BIOS Fast Boot is not working

 

Steps 1 and 2 are combined into one, I directly see windows EFI boot animation with Alien Head. Startup time is 6-7 sec with alienware softwares running at startup.

 

then you have UEFI Fast Boot on. Dell has it enabled by default just like it is on my wife's 4 year old Dell Vostro laptop

 

I don't talk about the crippled Windoze fast boot - hybrid boot/shutdown. I have never liked this ****y from the Redmond Morons. I understand what yooo talk about. Of course Fast boot should work. But it's not very important for me. Just be sure your OC work well before you use it

 

speaking of Fast Boot, it doesn't work on Clevo laptops, even with the Prema BIOS, you enable it, save and exit, then it goes back to disabled so my taptop will soon beat you by 10 seconds in boot time

 

And your ssd's as well But like I said. This performance isn't very important for me. With ok boot time I'm all good. I don't re-boot very often. I prefer to use my machine up and go What's count is the processing powa

 

Hey nice review, and youre right the screen is amazing and looks like just an ips. One thing i noticed is that there's a quite a lot of bloatware installed in this laptop, can you tell me which apps did you remove

 

Thanks @Phoenix. I hope MSI resolves the issue ASAP.

 

My charger connector feels wobbly when connected to the charging port, not super wobbly but not as tight as the one with a single pin that usually plugs on the side of the laptop, is it the same with you guys?

 

I did a clean install so I don't know what bloatware is offered with the MSI image.

The only bloatware after installing the driver that I uninstalled is MSI Remind Manager from control panel which reminds you to register your system. Everything else is useful

 

just a little bit, nothing to be worried about.

 

How well does the 7820hk overclock


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Overclocks to 4.2 GHz easily