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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3940XM CPU @ 3.00GHz,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F3 score: P30483 3DMarks

 

Hello all, quick question for you barebones owners and Gurus. I just ordered a MS-1762 barebones 033 model with 680m 4GB. I've got a spare 3610qm and 16gb of 1600 ram laying around to toss in it when it gets here, plus I ordered a M4 128GB SSB for the OS drive and I have a Momentus XT 750 for the Data drive. How will the 680m pair up with the 3610? I'm not looking to time travel with this thing, just play most games at 1080p smoothly. Secondly, I found a tray load Bluray drive refurbished for about 25$. Will it fit? My understanding is that pretty much any Sata tray load drive will work in the ms-1762 once the bezel has been swapped over? Is this correct? Drive is a Sony BD-ROM generic model that came out of a year old dell. When all is said and done I will have a max of about 1450$ in this lappy. Thanks for you input in advance!

Trith

 

I don't think the 3610 will bottleneck your GPU, not even if it was an SLI setup. It should handle all of the current games on higher settings.

 

Great, I'm hoping to keep the costs down, and I had the 3610 left over from a now defunct 14x, and the less I spend on new stuff the more I can spend on Steam later =D.

 

It would run into issues with high end sli setups but otherwise is fine yes.

 

I've heard the steelseries multicolor keyboard is not compatible with the whitebook 1762 model. Is this true?

 

she goes in the White Book here at my 16F3

 

It is, I've got one myself

 

All of the newer whitebooks ship with a blue only steelseries model officially.

 

Ah yes I've noticed, pretty neat.

The keyboard, speakers and touchpad area is lighten up with a blue light

 

For the 17 inch models yes, they look very swanky

No comments on my 30k vantage benchmark?

 

Pretty sweet.. actually scary for a laptop.

Did the extra wattage from your modified power adapter have an impact on performance? There must be a volcano running below the laptop when you push it this far.

 

What core did you run

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3940XM CPU @ 3.00GHz,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16F3 score: P30943 3DMarks

1110mhz core.

 

Do me a favor and send me the vBIOS you use please

also sweet cpu, once you get a hold of how it works you'll get legendary scores, we should make a ultimate benchmarking thread in the gaming section or so, anyways im off, gratz with your new machine man

 

hey a quick question out to the 1762 barebone owners, what idle temps are you getting and what max temps are you getting with cpu and gpu without the turbo fans? i repasted both 3 times and my gpu still hits 93 C... (i am using an official msi bios on my barebone, could that be causing the overheating issue?) i idle at about 41 C cpu and 33 C gpu.

 

can't wait to join the family =). got a powerpro.

 

Hello, I need help
I have a Medion X7821 (Msi Gt70-0NE barebone) with Nvidia Gtx680m. The notebook works really fine, but the vent never stop on idle (cpu stay in 35-36ºC or less).
I think maybe the reason is Medion´s Bios.

The original´s Bios to Msi GT70 work in all barebones??

 

I don't know that your problem is related to any BIOS issues but yes the GT70 bios will work on a barebones. According to Abe at powernotebooks it's the exact same motherboard

Also i'm not sure where i'll get better answers to my questions, in here or in the GT70 owners lounge. Am i pretty much going to have to flash the MSI firmware that reduces throttling if i have a 675M? Is there anything i should know or plan on tweaking when i get it? Do you guys all use nvidia inspector to OC?

 

No msi system by default goes to 0% fan but you can do it with phereins fan profile tool using the 16f2 profile.

Throttle is best controlled with gt60/70 bios and beta ec from the msi forums.

 

My vent always run about 25%.
The noise in idle is really high.

I had a few months ago one Msi Gt780R and do not remember this level of noise in idle

 

Well, I posted your solution

 

Thanks.
where I can find information to control the fan??

With the original MSI´s Bios the vent works 20-25% in idle?

 

He has even packaged it all up with a nice GUI.

 

Just got my MS 16F3 w/670m from PowerNotebooks - it's been great so far. But something is bothering me, when I power up the laptop the bios logo screen shows up twice, is this normal or not? And will flashing the bios fix it? I believe I have the 30M right now.

 

It is normal and you can stop it by turning off the killer oprom.

 

Already did, I see the same logo message twice when I boot up. It's pretty weird; I made sure that the Killler bios is disabled but still nothing..

Also for some reason whenever I try to back up the BIOS, considering I want to upgrade it, I keep getting the 'cannot identify the bios' message on the universal tool. This makes it even more suspicious..

Edit: I contacted their customer support, let's see what they'll say.

 

You will also see that screen twice if you are set to raid mode.

Also which universal tool do you mean? Have you created the MSIHQ bootable tool and bios helper USB stick?

 

anyone had to deal with xoticpc for an rma? its an msi 1761

 

Yay, I can post here. Yesterday the only place I could post was the main forum. I have a couple of questions as I just bought my MS-17626. I’m pretty excited with the laptop. After I installed the correct drivers I got a WEI of 7.6 which seems really good. I was wondering can I use the BIOS from the MSI website to update the bios? I’ve seen a thread here that said you could but, it seemed like it was a different laptop. The MSI website says not to. Also what’s the EC and should I update it too? Last, when I ordered the laptop I had a 256G SSD put in one slot and the 750G Segate moments XT. The Segate communicates at 6 Gb/s. Apparently the bay it was installed into is only capable of 3 Gb/s. I didn’t buy this drive because of the space. There was a similar drive with only 500G but was still a highbred and communicated at 3Gb/s. Setting the differences in size aside should I be bothered that my drive is only working at half speed? I wish there had been something to say that I would only be getting 3 Gb/s instead 6 Gb/s . Who know about these drives? Is there anything that would make the 750 better then the 500?

 

I've edited your post to show you how breaking up your text will make it easier to read and will mean you are more likely to get a response to your questions.

You can use bioses from other machines of the same size (not 16F3 to GT70 though, that has not been tested), though you don't need to and it's not officially supported so you could loose your warranty. I would not worry about updating the EC unless you run into performance issues.

While the seagate can operate in SATA 6Gb/s mode the drive itself is far to slow to saturate even the SATA 3Gb/sec bus so there is no need to worry.

 

I'm sorry for the confusing post. I was at work and a little hurried. I appreciate your response but, now I'm all nervous about where to put spaces and were not to lol.

I'll flash the bios later today. Just installing the updated drivers from MSI for the vcard made a huge difference. I'm curious about the bios because when I look at the Intel XTU panel it says that it dosen't have turbo enabled. I've seen several screenshots of the same laptop that showed the turbo enabled and I can only assume that the BIOS is to blame.

As far as the hard drives essentially the 6Gb/s is a major waste and the only benefit is the fact that it's a hybrid drive. I bought the bigger hard drive because of the speed not the size. Hopefully the company I bought it from will work with me on it.

 

A larger hard drive will be faster than a small one but only SSDs will push SATA II ports to their limits and use the SATA III bandwidth.

 

Out of curisity why do you say that?

Also, this drive is a hybrid so shouldn't that allow it to use the higher speeds? - I looked up some of the speed and the drive was able to get a high of 111. Wich is essentially 1.1 Gb/s.

 

It isn't fast enough. That's the thing. The larger the SSD they faster they usually are.

And as Meaker said, since it's a hybrid you wont use the full potential of your second drive due to it being limited to SATA-II, since you didnt buy it for the space, you would have to buy a SATA-III SSD to achieve maximal SATA-II speed

 

Both SSDs and HDDs get faster the larger they get (up to 256GB for SSDs and next gen up to 512GB).

For hard drives the density of data increases so for the same amount of time the platter will spin the same amount (still 7200rpm) but because the data is more tightly packed you travel over more data and can read it.

SSDs get faster because controllers have a certain amount of channels, the more chips (or packages per chip) the more channels you can populate, the controller then stripes across all the channels (like raid 0) so the more channels populated the faster it gets. When you get to 256GB (or soon 512GB) all the channels are populated and you start having 2 packages per channel so see no speed increase.

I am aware of no mechanical HDD that can saturate a SATA II bus, there are a few niche cases where the cache can maybe burst higher than 270MB/sec but you wont notice this difference in normal usage.

Since the hybrid cache is only made up or 1 (or maybe 2) nand chips the rate they can put out data is not high enough to reach SATA II limits either, they serve to increase small file speeds.

 

I've crossposted this a couple times... but i'm pretty desperate at this point

Have any of you guys had issues with source games and a 675M or any other card for that matter?

If i play BF3 my system runs normally. If i play CS Source i can see the dedicated card turns on but only hits like 40-50% utilization and i only get like 80fps... any ideas?

 

You are worried about 80fps? Had a look at your cpu usage?

 

I know 80fps seems like a lot, but the 675M should render 2-3 times that amount easily in CS Source. The system i just upgraded from was significantly lowe specs and i got 175+ fps all the time so i know it's not running properly.

In BF3 i see very high GPU and CPU utilization. In CS:S i see very low CPU and GPU utilization... i really don't know what to make of it. I know it's using the 675M and not the integrated, but it's getting almost the same FPS the integrated would be getting lol...

I've tried several different releases of nvidia drivers and every setting i can think of. Any ideas?

 

Universal BIOS Backup Toolkit <- that, haven't got my hands on any other tool yet but I'm waiting for support's response.

I'm not running raid and I don't plan to, so there's that..

 

I think cs:s just never liked optimus very much but they did not fix it due to the high frame rate.

 

just got my powerpro today so far very happy with it the only thing i was kind of sad was the touch panel for the hotkey scratched from my nail when i went to press the turbo button, i thought i was insane so i slight rubbed it again and was sad to find out it scratches easily. other than that everything is flawless. i do have a question regarding uefi. do i have to flash a new bios to get that option?

 

You may have to yes.

 

I guys I have several questions for you. Can i upgrade my stock blue ba keyboard on my 16f3 to the steel series keyboard found on the Gt60s/70s? Also whats the best nvida driver right now? Im still using the stock one that came with it. (i think its 302 something) Thanks in advance!!!

 

What GPU do you have on your laptop?

I believe you can upgrade your keyboard. Actually you'll find some videos on youtube of people swapping the two keyboards. But in my opinion it'a not a worthy ~$100 upgrade.

 

Yes it's possible to upgrade it

 

Just be aware all you are doing is buying a few extra leds as the key action is identical.

 

The latest driver is 310. and it makes a big differnce. I was getting a 5.5 on the WEI and after I updated the driver I was got 7.6.

When I first got mine I thought it was scratching to. After I looked really close I realized there was a very thing protective film on it that had to be peeled away. This was after I removed the large obvious one that was covering all of the plastic.

 

oh wow thank you so much =).

 

MSI Notebook Product Specifications

If you don't like optimus we (the community) are getting a new barebone, with a slower K2000M graphics chip, but looks upgradable to me.

Nothing is tested just yet however! So I don't know if it will run into any issues as I don't have one.

Looking at the qualified component list it has the extreme edition 55W CPU listed even if the main description says 45W max.

New motherboard (no optimus and new display connections and no super raid = 2x Gen III standard slots? I don't know just now).