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    I can only afford a used, is the original SurfaceBook terrible? HELP PLS !

    Discussion in 'Microsoft' started by NYCtech, Jan 19, 2018.

  1. NYCtech

    NYCtech Notebook Consultant

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    I can only afford a Macbook Pro 13 or a Surface Book. 2015 models.

    Without a dedicated GPU, is the original Surface Book worth buying?

    I want the surface book as I need the resolution for Light Room and of course the touch/pen.

    I could use a intuous pen/pad on the MacBook, but I like the idea of being able to use the tablet. Plus the tablet becomes really portable.
     
  2. Danishblunt

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    original surfacebook is still WAY better than the macbook pro 13, however without dgpu it kinda sucks.
     
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  3. NYCtech

    NYCtech Notebook Consultant

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    Im use to all my ultrabooks not having DGPU, I have a gaming machine for that :).

    I see you can now do sideways shading with the HB, thats so freckin cool, is that in the Pen or the new surface book. Id definitely upgrade the pen if so.

    The DGPU models where I live just cost WAY to much. They are expensive in US, well add 60% to your US cost literally and thats how it is here. (no not currency etc, I mean literally a 60% markup)
     
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    I may want to chime in here and say that the SB had some issues and if anything breaks, you will be out of luck. Depending on the year of the macbook you are considering, it would probably be easier to repair should something happen. You seem to be very budget conscious so I figured this was worth pointing out. I still think the SB is the better pick, but if it turns into a brick in a few months its worthless.
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If the SB doesn't have a warranty, I would recommend the Mac instead. A refurbished MBP purchased from Apple carries the same 1-year warranty as a new one and can be extended with AppleCare at any time before said warranty expires.
     
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  6. NYCtech

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    This is not my long term lappy just for 6 months or so while I wait for certain models to upgrade to 8 gen intel.

    Yes the SB had INTEL issues haha, the drivers for the GPU, but I thought intel fixed that?
     
  7. NYCtech

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    Ok so he is asking $700 for the original i7 model no GPU.

    Why is this not a good buy? Macbook Pro 13s of the same age go for $1400. They dont have dGPU either.
     
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    I would go surface book instead of macbook hands down. why? Macbook, thats why. They are terrible devices, and OSX is horrid.
     
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    Because the SB1 is very reliable and maybe he wants inking and detachable tablet to use as well.
     
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    The SB1 is pretty durable as well. Sure you can't repair it as easy as a thinkpad, but it's hard to break in the first place. Also he needs the tablet function.
     
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    Yes thats exactly why. Outside Light Room (which is why I want a pen system, that and Photoshop) I also just watch movies and browse the web and i like 3:2 screens.

    Im not going back to Mac, everyone Ive owned has disolved around me.

    So the issues with SB1, what are they? Are we just talking the Intel issues it had at the start? (which arent MS faults).

    A SP3 is about $600 here but I can get a SB1 for $1000. Is it a better buy than they Surface Pro 3? Strangely the SP4 sells for more than the SB1 here.

    When I can afford it I would love a SB2 with gtx1050, but right now I have a gaming machine.
     
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    Between the SB1 and SP3, Its just a matter of what size and priority of things like keyboard. If you type alot, get the SB, the keyboard on the surface pro is meh. If you are mobile alot get the pro. I do miss my surface for travelling. but I LOVE my dell 2 in 1 for everything else. and i am willing to put up with the extra size while travelling since in planes I can put it in tent and have lots of room.
     
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    I would go for the SB over the Macbook. It would drive me insane if I did not have the pen input abilities, unless you carry around your pad/pen with you everywhere. No one deserves that amount of frustration.
     
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    This is why Im buying a Note 5, its like a mouse. And the Note 8 i hate its aspect ratio and poor rigidity (glass either side).

    Is the dGPU a must have if your not a high end video guy and just use lightroom picture by picture?

    they have dropped in price again, i think they are close to selling out of the original 2015 model.

    The MBP13 doesnt have a GPU or quad core and hasnt for a decade, yet its called pro, i think with the pen at least it makes Light Room easy.

    People so hard on MS yet Apple make shoddy products, staingate, magsafe freying, thermal fans dying and use really low tech hardware.

    Whats wrong with me paying $900 for a non dGPU dual core machine that lasts hours and hours?
     
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