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    Linux not working well in SONY VAIO

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by chankey, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. chankey

    chankey Newbie

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    I have Sony Vaio (vpceb14en) Laptop and it came with Windows 7 OS. I installed Redhat in it and the problem I am facing with is that I am not able to connect to the internet. I tried ifconfig but it is not showing any ethernet device there. Whereas in win 7 the internet is working fine. Also the linux is not supporting my laptop's sound card. How to overcome this problem?

    PS: I tried Fedora 11 and Ubuntu 10 too, Still facing the same problem.
     
  2. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    What are the specifications?

    And uhh.....There is no way Fedora 11 or Red Hat will support your hardware if Ubuntu doesn't. Ubuntu is your best bet. The others are ancient.

    In Ubuntu, make sure you go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers and look for drivers you need to enable there(you need to be connected via ethernet).

    Also on ubuntu try to enable "proposed" and "backport" updates from software sources and then apply all the updates and reboot.
     
  3. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    You are way off here, in no way is Fedora o Red HAt (Fedora is from Red HAt as well) ancient in any way possible, Ubuntu is just more user friendly, but since Linux is a kernel, all drivers available for it are available for pretty much all distro, in other words a driver is ditro-agnostic, so in no way is Ubuntu bette/has better driver support than other distros.
    That was 1, and 2 don't forget that Ubuntu is based of Debians stable revision, and all code that Ubuntu makes is committed to the Debian repository, Ubuntu is a Debian distro.
    Also the problem with linux is the lack of drive support, since Windows is the majority, many manufacturers don't bother to make drivers avaible, so the Open Source Community (Read not Ubuntu) will try to reverse-engineer and create open-source driver alternatives, which take a lot of time)
     
  4. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    He specified Fedora 11. Which is over a year old. Fedora 13 just came out. Thanks.

    Also, Ubuntu is based off of Debian Sid, or unstable(same thing).

    And also drivers aren't distro agnostic. Each distro has a slightly different kernel, and many times, an entire different version.

    For example:
    Red Hat - 2.6.16

    Ubuntu - 2.6.32

    Also, Red Hat is based on Fedora(an older version).

    As for drivers, I've googled and his system(currently, but will be soon) isn't well supported, However it is certainly possible to run linux on it(with some extra work).

    Before trying to flame me, I highly suggest getting your facts straight, and if you please, I'd rather this thread be used to help the original poster.

    Thanks :)
     
  5. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    I wasn't flaming you, a driver can be loaded regardless of the kernel(if it's open-source) it's just that many linux distros integrate with many open-source drivers, try compiling your own kernel, or try a "source-based" distribution (Gentoo, SlackWare) where you compile your kernel with only the drivers that are needed for your PC,also Fedora 11 appeared a few years ago but it's not 3 years old, a GNU/linux OS is never old
     
  6. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    You humor me, you really do. I never said it was 3 years old.

    And it's never old? Oh humor me, like you're running Red Hat 3 on your toaster oven.

    Not all drivers can be loaded on older kernels, and do you honestly expect everyone to do that? If you do, you're an idiot, and that's it.

    Also, Slackware isn't source based, FYI, it's binary.

    Now if we could move this elsewhere in a place of your choosing(or end it) and try to help the OP I'd appreciate it.
     
  7. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    Guys, please stop the name calling and keep on topic with helping the OP.
     
  8. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    The first thing to do is run lspci | grep -i ethernet to figure out what make and model of network card you have.

    I found something on an unrelated bug report here with a similar model that has the Marvell 88E8059. Then I found a relevant Debian bug that says you need the sky2 kernel module which appeared in the 2.6.33 kernel and should be in 10.04. There is also an Ubuntu bug report.

    If that ethernet card isn't the one you have, post the output of lspci | grep -i ethernet and then search for that chip's kernel module.
     
  9. korbennn

    korbennn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Prior to installation I wanted to give livecd a spin
    Connection Established - nothing in FF

    anyone sharing same experience?
    Been trying thru numerous commands and after 7 days of trying tricks still nothing
     
  10. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    Again, please open a terminal and run:
    Code:
    lspci | grep -i ethernet
    Paste in what it gives you, and then we can figure out what ethernet card you have, and what module it needs. ;)
     
  11. korbennn

    korbennn Notebook Enthusiast

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    will do?

    lspci | grep -i ethernet

    02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 4380 (rev 10)
    ra@ubuntu:~$ ^C


    ra@ubuntu:~$ sudo iwlist scan
    [sudo] password for ra:
    lo Interface doesn't support scanning.

    eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning.

    wlan0 No scan results

    ra@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep iwl
    [ 10.031070] iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 1.3.27k
    [ 10.031073] iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2009 Intel Corporation
    [ 10.031167] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
    [ 10.031202] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
    [ 10.031247] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100AGN REV=0x54
    [ 10.098687] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels
    [ 10.098773] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: irq 31 for MSI/MSI-X
    [ 10.146887] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs'
    [ 12.664936] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: firmware: requesting iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode
    [ 12.667686] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: loaded firmware version 8.24.2.12
    [ 12.816423] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::radio
    [ 12.816439] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::assoc
    [ 12.816457] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::RX
    [ 12.816471] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::TX
    ra@ubuntu:~$
     
  12. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    Yep you need the sky2 driver see the bug reports I linked in a previous post.
     
  13. korbennn

    korbennn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Failed...

    But found the ultimate solution - PCLOS 2010.7 - unbelievable and it works!
     
  14. f4ding

    f4ding Laptop Owner

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    What do you mean connection established? How do you know that connection is established? What kind of connection, wireless? Ethernet?

    Can you open a terminal or console, and do ping http://www.google.com?

    What kind of distribution are you using?
     
  15. brad12

    brad12 Newbie

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    actually i want to know , Why is there many different Linux names and SO instead to be only one? What are the differences?
     
  16. stevea

    stevea Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just came out 4 month ago is more accurate,and Fedora has a release every 6 months.. Actually Fedora14 is due out in two months and F12 is no longer supported.
    So yes he's using old unsupported fedora distros.

    Even F11 does include his Marvelle Yukon driver for the wired ethernet.
    You can only see CONFIGURED interfaces with the "ifconfig" command.
    You have to use "ifconfig -a" or better yet "ip addr" to list ALL interfaces.

    His wifi seems to be an Intel Proset of some model. It's very likely that the kernels back to F11 have the driver BUT Fedora only recently started including the firmware ((it's use license gives Fedora problems)).

    He should pick a CURRENT distro (probably Ubuntu or Mint fo a beginner) and ask question on the distro forums.

    Not quite:

    RHEL5 is 2.6. 18 (with lots of backports)
    RHEL6 is 2.6.32
    F13 is 2.6.33
    F14 (alpha) is 2.6.35

    Much of the Fedora work is included in a RHEL release, but it's wrong to say RHEL is based on Fedora.

    You can't use non-specifics designations like "Red Hat - 2.6.16" - that kernel (well 2.6.18) only relates to RHEL5 series releases.


    Each different distro has a different goal. Fedora includes new under-development features and there are lots of updates. These can break the system so it's not a good choice for a noob. Ubuntu was created to provide a polished well honed desktop experience. Arch linux is meant to provide very low-level control of what is installed, not necessarily a desktop experience, Some desktop distos focus on the Gnome desktop, others in KDE, there are half a dozen other desktops available. Some disrtos are for servers only. Some are for scientific application. Some are for control applications.

    Linux is a lot more diverse than Windows; to the point where you could spend a few months just learning the various desktop choices.

    For an end-user desktop you want to consider the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint distros first. Perhaps OpenSuse or Fedora when you have a little more experience.

    There are many hundreds of varient distros; search distrowatch.com