Linux Mint 5 Elyssa, on the servers

http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13200&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Hasn't been approved by exploder, but people have had 0 bugs in it.
Downloading it now.

 

Already downloaded it, i was gonna burn it but i'll wait until clem announces it.
EDIT: Kept reading the thread, i found out by deadguy in the beta thread. This IS the final, i'll burn it now after i finish messing up my current config.

 

Ya, I'm testing this, then I have a lot of mods up for it .
I hope it's stable, but it looks like it is.

 

o man!!!! thnx for the info... cant wait to install!!!

 

ok this maybe a stupid question, but..

in Mint5, is there an option like Add/Remove Programs like in Ubuntu Hardy??

 

There's Synaptic (Package manager) or the Software repository. I recommend synaptic over the software repository by far though.

 

ya lotta ppl do..
burnin elyssa now!!! cant wait!! cant wait!!! mint is by far my fav distro..

 

Mint over Ubuntu??? No way

I'm willing to try out Elyssa though.... I don't have any blank media around, so does anyone know if it will work as a live CD image w/ Virtualbox??

 

Ya, should work fine.

 

Ok, sweet. I'm downloading the image right now too

 

Just got done, on to testing!

 

Yes it will. Also, IT'S THE FINAL. Just got confirmed by clem. Enjoy.

 

Hmm, this is the first Mint release which I know a girl of that name. I am going to try on my old desktop, bye bye Mandriva.

 

Mandriva on an old desktop? Why didn't you just use Daryna or Xubuntu or something?

 

Know the forecast for release of Mint KDE CE?

 

Not sure, theres a thread in the mint forums on it.
Maybe they'll release it soon.

 

Thomas, would you recommend, as an Inspiron-1501-user, Linux Mint over 8.04 Ubuntu? If yes, could you briefly summarize why and what are the advantages/differences between Mint and regular Ubuntu? This distro is based on the latest Ubuntu right?

If you convince me to go for Mint this time, I'll surely have more specific questions in store for you. Thank you for your time.

 

LOL, np.
It was easy to get wireless working, a little harder then Ubuntu, but still easy.
As soon as I got the ATI driver, compiz was enabled, everything is included, easy to set up, and beautiful.

 

I just booted the LiveCD up. Looks pretty . I'm having some trouble post-installation though... The installation process seemed to go fine. I put it on an ext3 partition w/ a 2 GB swap partition. However, when I tried to boot it up, after the boot-loader it stays on the loading screen for roughly 4 minutes. Then brings me to a screen saying, "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debia 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in command. (initramfs)"

I assumed I would be going straight into a GUI (I'm new to linux, so not terminal savvy). Is there something I'm missing or should I just try reinstalling it?

 

You installed it wrong. I'm thinking you didn't set mount points or something like that. Read this, but i suggest you check out the entire wiki. It really helps.

 

Thanks Calvin I'll read that now.

EDIT: That wiki suggests putting /,/home,/var,/ops ect. all on sparate partitions. Is that really necessary or is that just the way it happened to be done in this wiki? I only set up one ext3 partition setting it to / . Do you think that's where I went wrong?

It's the same way I set up Ubuntu a few days ago that worked fine... Making coffee then reading more .

 

Most of us I think do a /, a /home/ and a /swap. Recommended. You see the wisdom of this down the road.

 

Yes, don't go for a more complicated partitioning scheme for now. If you want to make things faster then use a smaller partition. I recommend you use the partition scheme i have below. The bigger the partition, the slow the data on it is retreived. Also, partitions closer to the beginning of the disk (to the left) are faster than ones further to the right. Here's my partitioning scheme, don't mind that it's says "/dev/.static/dev" it's set to "/".

 

Same partitioning setup I have.....except I have a larger / but that's debatable.

 

5GB is fine for a base install and a ton of apps, more is only reccomended if you're installing a bunch of apps or need the space.

 

Looks good. I'll give that setup a try. I was impressed with Ubuntu since it was the only Linux i've tried which as able to use my wifi card (after some playing around). Linux Mint seems based off Ubuntu (but prettier) from what I've seen, so I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks again for the advice. With any luck next time I sign in I'll be a Linux user.

 

Ok... I have tried Installing Linux Mint with a few different partition configurations (including the "guided" one & the one Calvin recommended). Unfortunately each time I am brought to the same screen I mentioned in my first post instead of booting up.

Currently, I am using Ubuntu which seemed to install fine, however it took about 5 minutes for this initial boot up.

The only message I have seen that indicates any type of error is as follows:

MPBIOS BUG: 8254 Timer not connected to IO APIC

This message appears for about 1/2 second before the boot splash screen in both Ununtu & Linux Mint.

My only thoughts about what could be the problem:

-Not partitions, as i configured them identical to Calvin's, "guided", and as was recommended on the site linked to earlier.

-Could I be installing the wrong version? I am using the "full" version. I will try the light version tomorrow and see if the same problem occurs.

Is something in my BIOS affecting this? I have no clue why it would, but the error message seems to indicate there is something wrong with communication in the BIOS.

The massage I was prompted with at each boot refers to '(initramfs)'. Is it trying to create a RAMdisk instead of booting properly? Maybe I should install a different version of GRUB than is included with Ubuntu?

 

What specs?

 

Gregory, about the Mint/Ubuntu error.
Try starting up, when the boot menu appears then press F6, then from the command that will be listed delete "quiet splash --" and then add "noapic" (or "noapic nolapic" if that doesn't work) to the end of that command.
Here is a page with other commands (and combinations) if this doesn't work; link

Edit: You could also PM Jas about this error message if this doesn't work.

 

Toshiba Satellite L25-S1196

-Intel® Celeron® M Processor 360
-2GB DDR2
-40GB (5400 RPM) PATA
-ATI RADEON® XPRESS 200M
-Phoenix NoteBIOS 4.0 Release 6.1 (According to some software that claims to identify the BIOS type. I assume it is correct.)

Thanks Baserk I'll give that a try.

 

Argh, Baserk beat me to it.

 

The recommendations regarding altering the boot protocols didn't solve the problem. Upon further reading of the site you linked to, Baserk, I believe I can see why. The site suggests changing protocols in order to make the Live CD boot, then how to change the boot protocols for the installed version. However, the Live CD works perfectly (with exception of taking 10 minutes to load, I'm not sure if that is normal).

I am going to try the "light" version and see if that works... However from my understanding of the difference between the two, I doubt it will. I'm going to keep playing around and see if I can figure out what's wrong here...

I appreciate the suggestions I've received so far, and will be glad to try any others people might have.

Baserk, I'll hold off on bothering that person you mentioned with a PM until I am absolutely certain I'm not screwing something up here.

 

The Light version just excludes codecs.
Since mint doesn't work, I would try Ubuntu, you can see my Ubuntu guide for how to install it.

 

Ubuntu works excellently (except for a long bootup time). That is why I am so surprised I am having all these issues with Linux Mint.

I am interested in Linux Mint just because it is prettier than Ubuntu . So if in the end I can't get it working I'll just deal with the less good looking Ubuntu.

 

Ya, you can get ubuntu good looking too.

 

I'm interested in this too.
I also want to know if I run into any problems, and I find instructions for Ubuntu whether those isntructions will be applicable to mint ?

PS: A security bug in Mint 5.0 was found.
It has been fixed, and new isos released too:
http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=189

 

Got the update via mint update yesterday.

 

And that's not the only one, according to this post by Mint forum mod 'Husse'; link.
I know it's only a 'local network' issue but still.
Can anyone confirm when a kernel upgrade has been done or is it still a Mint level 5 update?
Husse himself reported only a minor issue after updating to the newer kernel but then again, I expect him to solve things easily.
I'll probably have tons of issues halfway upgrading a level 5 update.

 

Tried it live, and man, WOW. compiz, sound, video, mp3, flash all working out of the box. Amazing. I also tried Ubuntu, it was also good( though somehow 3d desktop was not functioning). For flash also, when I clicked a flash site, ubuntu downloaded package live. I was amazed that compiz was working at 1920x1200 right out of the box with intel 945 integrated graphics. Wow.
Unfortunately the laptop does not have a wireless card, so I have not tested that.
Suspend to RAm also worked out of the box in Ubuntu, not not in Mint (after waking it up in mint, I have to restart the Xserver with CTL+ALT+Backspace.
The volume up down buttons pop up a nice indicator in the screen thinkpad style.
EDIT: Restarted Mint - now suspend works, may have been due to a USB drive I had pplugged in earlier ??

I do like the look of Mint more.

But wow, linux has come so far forward. I shudder to think how much effort will be needed to install windows XP.

 

I second that but wireless did not work straight from the cd for me
What should I install to get it up and running?

 

If you can't find a linux driver for it on Google, use NDIS Wrapper. It uses Windows INF files to make the hardware work. Worked with my card like a charm.

 

I suggest you pork your notebook into an ethernet connection to download and install NDISwrapper, also Ndisgtk really helps as it adds an easy to use GUI if you're not into using the CLI.

 

Greg, were you able to get this working? And if so, what was the magical formula?

I am experiencing an identical problem, getting stymied by the (initramfs) message. This is during LiveCD bootup. I have a functioning Linux Linpus Lite installed.

Would appreciate any help -- THX!
Lin

 

This thread was buried....don't revive old threads.

 

No I wasn't. Sorry . I gave up on it soon after that post. I suggest you make a thread of your own though. Maybe someone can help .

Good luck!

 

Schmi, if you still have a Gateway 1625, there's a user of that laptop who was able to install the Linux WiFi drivers manually, described in this post, over on the Ubuntu user forums. It might be dated so you might want to check out the webpage for the rtl8187 driver here, as well. Good Luck..

LinLu2U, there's been a lot of Ubuntu user forum posts on this subject, like here, and here. You, as well as anyone else having this problem, would probably get better answers over there. However, the consensus seems to be that if you boot the LiveCD with one of the following options appended to the kernel boot command, you may be able to get around this issue;

Code:

all_generic_ide pci=routeirq

or

Code:

acpi=off

or

Code:

noacpi

You should try the first one, and if that doesn't work, you can try the others. Otherwise if none of them help, the search function at the Ubuntu Users forum, will be your best bet.

Good Luck..