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    Linux MINT is AWESOME!!!

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by LIVEFRMNYC, Dec 26, 2007.

  1. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    So I been having problems with Ubuntu 7.10. I swear it's worst than even any beta version of Ubuntu that I have tried. The last 3 Versions of Ubuntu were Great. Why so many bugs in this version?

    I decided to Install Mint 4.0 instead, since it's based on Ubuntu. I didn't know what I was missing. :D I installed gnome and love the differences vs Ubuntu gnome, Mainly the Menu Setup. I also like the Software Portal Link. It took me a moment to realize that the Lock icon on panel was the Update tool. Why a Lock? :confused:

    I'm still messing around with it as I just install it, but my first impression of Mint is Very Good.
     
  2. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    What wireless card do you have?
    & does wireless work?
     
  3. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    I have a Atheros. Works perfectly fine with Mint as it did with Ubuntu. But on many other distros I seem to have problems.
     
  4. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    Do you know if Broadcom support is better in Mint?
     
  5. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    Sorry, I wouldn't know that from personal experience. But here is a quote from Ubuntu Forums.

     
  6. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    Hmm,
    I'm definitely trying Mint later on.
     
  7. Amol

    Amol APH! NBR Reviewer

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    Well glad you got that working. Since my WPA2 enabled network connection just refuses to pair up on an Intel 3945ABG. Oh wait, I just swapped it out for an Atheros AR500 series draft n 2.0! I may give Daryna a shot again!!
     
  8. Subversive Asset 2.0

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    I definitely like to use mint over ubuntu, but I guess I'm jaded from the time I had an ati card and ubuntu couldn't properly detect my 1280x800 without me going to xorg.conf

    That being said, at least for me, mint hasn't automatically detected my broadcom things, but it comes with ndiswrapper (something ubuntu does not, which is a hassle) so I can easily install the broadcom infs.
     
  9. Les

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    I would be very interested in wifi support as well... I tried everything to get my 1505 Dell Wifi N working with no luck.
     
  10. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

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    I installed it yesterday. I know pretty much nothing about Linux and I was surprised and pleased to find just about everything working. The only things I had to setup manually were Sound and Desktop Effects, but a quick Google search solved all of that. Overall, so far, a very good experience.
     
  11. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

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    Do I still have to compile acer-acpi or that is included too? I love the green theme so much more easy on the eyes than the brown/orange ubuntu one :D
     
  12. benx009

    benx009 Notebook Evangelist

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    i had problems with envy when i used mint :( and besides, i hate how using mint makes me feel like i'm using a "watered-down" ubuntu. mint is good, but ubuntu is overall the better linux distro in my eyes
     
  13. LIVEFRMNYC

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    Do you mean the power settings to put processor work less? If so, I never tried that on Linux so I could not tell you.



    That's the feeling I got at first, but after messing around with it, I feel It's the full Ubuntu + more. There is nothing I can do in Ubuntu that I can't do in mint.
     
  14. Ayle

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    On my old acer travelmate the wifi was enabled by a software by pressing a button not by a hardware switch so acer-acpi was emulating that switch on whenever I was using linux otherwise the wlan card is detected but can't be activated...
     
  15. Modly

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    What did you feel like it was missing? Mint has always gave me more than Ubuntu. It also fixed every problem I had with Ubuntu as well, so I was quite satisfied with it.
     
  16. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    I'm pretty sure it would work out the box. Especially if wlan card is not the up most latest. Worst case scenario you would simply need to "enable restricted drivers" or do the madwifi method depending on the actual card.
     
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    Everything works for me OTB in Ubuntu so well that it's scary....love it. About the orange theme, Emerald to the rescue. Would like to try Mint, but why mess up a good thing? I did like Sabayon/Gentoo but I had to manually click to connect to the net everytime....that didn't cut it for me, although it very well could have been my Linux stupidity :D
     
  18. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    As stated in my OP, I probably would have never gave Mint a try if Ubuntu 7.10 wasn't so damn buggy for me. The ironic part is Mint Daryna is Ubuntu 7.10 according to the System Monitor. I think I will be sticking with Mint for now on. :)
     
  19. theZoid

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    Yep....you've got completely different hardware than me. I'll give mint a try next time I hose my linux partition :D
     
  20. kamikazefly

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    i second that
    EVERYTHING has worked out of the box....kidna....its really great.
     
  21. Ayle

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    Tried it... no i still have to use acer-acpi to get my wireless working... So Mint is a distri based on gutsy huh?They're even using the same repositories, so what make's it different beside the obvious visual interface?
     
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    From what I gather, better hardware support upon a fresh install, better multi-media experience, and no eye slitting orange.

    The last of which was enough to get me to start looking elsewhere. I just could not get rid of that orange bootup background no matter what I tried.
     
  23. Amol

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    Woohoo, Linux Mint working perfectly now that I threw away that atrocious Intel 3945ABG and now running Atheros AR5008X :D
     
  24. theZoid

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    I have an intel 4965agn card....will I have problems with that in Mint? In Ubuntu it worked OTB so to speak. thanks
     
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    OK...I'm convinced. I'm running off a live Mint CD right now....think I'm going to keep it....seems like Ubuntu with a better menu system. :D Obviously my wireless card is working.
     
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    Running Mint right now, wired connection wroks out of the box (desktop), but the wireless N card (dell) is not being read on my laptop... oh well...

    Pretty cool stuff, was wondering if there are any programs, etc. that i can run to make it look a bit more flashy (e.g. Ubuntu-Beryl-ish)...
     
  27. JCMS

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    Yup my 3945 running OTB too.
     
  28. John B

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    Are you talking about Desktop effects?
     
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    After reading this thread I decided to burn a copy of Mint to try it out since Ubuntu couldn't even boot to the desktop.

    I thought Mint was going to work this time around, I even heard sound from the speakers as it was booting off the CD. But the system stopped a little bit after the speakers came on. too bad.
     
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    I had to reboot 4 times before the Live CD actually gets me to the desktop =/
     
  31. Fewmets

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    Sweet stuff, I'm going ot be sure to try it out;

    one (noob) question: If I'm running it off of LiveCD, how will the isntall work (as it won't work permanetnly, I don't think); will it work at all, or do i need to install/partition my HD?
     
  32. theZoid

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    gino....I had that problem too, Twice! Until I did another download and burned another iso.....it's was something corrupt in the download. This time, smooth as silk...
     
  33. LIVEFRMNYC

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    Live CD is more like a preview/ You won't be able to mess with drivers so you will not have best resolution, wifi, etc: etc: It installs nothing to your HD. It just reads off the Disc and RAM.

    The easiest way to Fully install is to make a portion of your disk have Unallocated space. Then it will give you the option at install for "guided mode" for unallocated space(Not Entire Disk). You can use Gparted to make unallocated space by resizing or deleting a partition.
     
  34. theZoid

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    Everything working perfectly in Mint 4.0 ...now going to set up XP Virtual Machine again....I've been using Vmware Server....is Virtual Box any better? I can download VMware through Synaptic...
     
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    I'm really impressed w/ Mint; internet browsing is much faster, although this may be just because of the FF browser.

    I'll be sure to keep it, although I'm not ready to commit to a full install yet (incidentally, how much HD does the initial install take up)?
     
  36. LIVEFRMNYC

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    It's not just FF browser, as I use it on Windows too. Things in Linux world are just faster :D
     
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    Personally I found Vista to be quicker and more table but still, that thing is addicting xD.

    The install took 5GB for me.
     
  38. Fewmets

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    Hmm...

    It's sped up my old desktop (512MB SDRAM, abt. 30ish GB HD space left, 1.9GHz P4 processor), although my newer machine (w/ 2.2GHz DC, 4GB RAM, abt. 90 GB HD left, GeForce8600M 256MB DDR@) seems to like Vista just as much.

    I'm seriously debating installing this thing; as a barebones OS w/ no eyecandy, it's spectacular (although I admit some Beryl/Compiz Fusion action would be pretty sweet)...
     
  39. LIVEFRMNYC

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    Well the Beryl/Compiz is on Mint & Regular Ubuntu 7.10 already out of the box. You just need to install the Advance Settings apps to config it.
     
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    How is the battery life with Linux Mint? I noticed in Ubuntu I get only 2hrs compared to 4hrs in XP/Vista. Both underclocked to 800MHz. Is the battery life the same in both distributions or different? I can't really test since I spent half the day restoring my HDD partition structure to factory defaults.
     
  41. theZoid

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    to answer my own question: I like VirtualBox better for seamless integration.
     
  42. LIVEFRMNYC

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    What do you mean by seamless integration? I never tried Virtual Box before. I being using VMware Server, It pretty seamless to me after VMtools is installed.
     
  43. theZoid

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    Virtual Box has a display option called "seamless desktop" I think...where it appears everything is running right on the Linux desktop. I didn't see that with Vmware Server, or did I miss something?
     
  44. LIVEFRMNYC

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    OK, I googled and found THIS ......I think I know what you mean now. VMware can't do that. That's pretty amazing. I'm going to give it a try.
     
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    Yeah, I've been using VMware up to now....but when I switched to Mint from Ubuntu I gave VirtualBox a try....you can install from Synaptic....pretty slick.
     
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    What's the performance difference when running from the VM rather than natively?

    Linux isn't ressource heavy when running on a high machine so?
     
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    JCMS, well I put a copy of Xp Pro I had in the VM....it runs pretty fast...but it's just there to run some business programs I use (work out of the house CPA), maybe a couple of others that don't need to run fast.

    Interesting, I switched to 'seamless mode' with ONE window running (XP Control Panel), and then it appeared to be running directly on the linux desktop. So I thought, cool, now what will happen if I close that ONLY window open? I did and it crashed...not linux, the virtual screen...I right clicked virtualbox in the panel to close, and it did ask me to power off the virtual machine, so the program itself didn't crash. I think this is a bug, it should have just switched back to 'windowed VM' mode after closing the last open window. Or did I set something wrong? anyone follow me?
     
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    I installed Mint on an old GX150 tower and it works like a champ, but I just can't get it to work on my e1705. I've burned the disc twice from two different downloads (MD5 hashes match) on the lowest speed but still no dice. The desktop loads with no menu or icons; it just sits there. In the meantime I installed Gutsy so I could jump back into the Linux world.

    Any pointers on how to get the LiveCD to actually finish loading?

    Also - for anyone who has the AR5008 chipset (mini card or Expresscard slot), you can get it working if you install the development madwifi drivers. Unfortunately, it only connects on 802.11g, which is a definite pain in the backside. Also, the light on my DWA-643 never comes on at all, even when it connects to my network. I tried the ndiswrapper/1.20 drivers from D-Link, but I could never get the thing to connect to my network.
     
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    Kego....I'm in FL too btw :D I was having strange problems like that using RW media that I grabbed out of my son's room and didn't realize it was RW rather than a CD-R. Whoever said 'don't use RW' was right on. Keep trying, there is a ghost in there somewhere.
     
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    I finally got the disc to boot completely, once I removed my DWA-643 from the expresscard slot. It's odd that the Ubuntu disc worked with the card installed, but the Mint disc kicked up a display driver error during the boot process with the card installed.

    Oh well, it's a bit too late now, since I'm pretty happy with Gutsy and all of the stuff I've installed today. When I get a bigger drive I might install both of them and share a /home partition.
     
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