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    Do you like Wine?

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Wine 3.x is good for Dx9/10 and some popular gaming titles such as Witcher3. FPS isn't that good but gameplay is smooth. You need Q4Wine if you use free version of WINE. Steam's Proton does all that w/o user intervention. Best use case will be Support for MSO 2016/19.
     
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    As long as it has some nice cheese and crackers to go with it. And, it has to be chilled. I don't enjoy wine at room temperature. :vbwink:
     
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    OC tools don't work at all in WINE. Tried a few and all get Crashed and failed to install.
     
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    I know, that's really sad. If I could do everything I want to do and run everything I want to run in Linux I would kick Windows to the curb without batting an eye.
     
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    I'll be the first to report it. Adding more features that break existing ones is bad (Windows 10). And in case if there's a problem after update we must wait a month to get next patches.
     
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    Did you see this thread already? Funny (not in a good way) that nothing has changed or improved since 2015.

    Small Windows 7 vs Windows 10 face off
     
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    Yeah but there's a catch though, most of them can argue and win saying Win 7 is old and W10.7 is new with latest HW support.
    Win 10 Anniversary v1607 was better aka LTSB.
     
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    People that go with the idea that newer automatically means better are not among the sharpest tools in the shed, and they are partly responsible for Windows 10 being a sucky piece of crap OS. They don't win that argument, unless you count the fact that people who think that way are legends in their own minds. They win only because they think they do and because they believe in their own nonsense.
     
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    Its because current Windows 10 tries to solve any problems by bashing the problem using High end PC and usually low end devices feel crappy or junk and force people to buy new PCs/lappies which hasn't even crossed 6 months of usage. More like Apple's slowdown tactics.
     
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    Came here for the wine, got windows instead. 0 stars.
     
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    If I ever decide to stop benching (spending money) I will be moving to Linux, lock, stock and barrel. Windows 10 sucks way too bad to put up with any longer than absolutely necessary. Linux has everything I need apart from my hobby. The way things are headed with hardware and firmware, I am starting to get fed up all of the nonsense creating difficulty of continuing that hobby. Once it stops being fun, it's no longer a good hobby. This is the only excuse I need at this point. Linux looks better every day. And, I won't need Wine (or cheese) once that happens. It will be a full and total rejection of everything Micro$lop related if and when that happens, so Wine will be a waste of drive space.
     
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    Yeah, I feel you on that. Although there are still some things that I use wine for -- programming my marine radio, for instance, and also downloading adobe DRM'ed ebooks from my library. I've also used it in the past for casual gaming with varied success.

    There are certain low-level things that you can't do with Wine, so that would explain why OC tools don't "just work" in Wine.
     
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    I keep trying to move to a full Linux environment, and somehow Windows keeps dragging me back kicking and screaming. WINE is amazing for what it is, though I guess it's always going to face the problem of essentially having to re-implement all the standard Windows system DLLs we need for software to run. Unfortunately, I would imagine there is more work going into bringing Linux to Windows (i.e. WSL, which is essentially WINE but in reverse I guess) than Windows to Linux. Likewise, we probably aren't ever going to see a time where everything we want (read: games) is fully ported to native Linux. We probably are never going to have solid support for doing anything low-level in WINE though; iirc WINE does not and will not support calling into the Windows kernel. My understanding on this topic is iffy at best though, so anyone feel free to correct me.