Annoyed

Okay. I have Ubuntu 7.04 installed but internet is seriously restricted.

I can only access through ethernet.

I have a wireless card RA2500. I have installed WPA Supplicant, I have Installed Knetworkmanager, and reinstalled network manager gnome and restarted dbus.

There is nothing coming up giving me wpa compability.

This is very annoying. If Linux users want to see Linux take off, then it's damn time that Linux have WPA support that's easy to work with. A lot of people use WPA because it's easier to remember the password. WEP requires like 15 letters and numbers. That and it's outdated.

Any suggestions? I have tried running WPA Supplicant, but I am getting into terminal territory and that I'm afraid of editing a lot of things at once that may lead to pain later.

God I just want to get on the internet, without having to type, edit, and search for ways around this.

Should I continue down this path with Ubuntu or should I try a different flavor?

I was thinking Gentoo or PCLinuxOS or OpenSUS or Debian or Fedora or something? Something that will let me access my internet easily? I just want it to recognize my card, see a network, and ask for the password and save it. That's all.

 

I am using WPA at home, no problem at all. Mine is even bad reputation Broadcom card.

 

It's your rt2500 that's giving you the trouble. I believe, if you have the correct drivers installed (I think you do), you can add some lines to your /etc/network/interfaces file to get it to connect properly. I seem to remember this working for me before (the bit under WPA info) -- that was on 6.10 or somesuch, but it's worth a look.

WPA did work for me out of the box for the first time with 7.04 on my HEL80. It's too bad the rt2500 chipset doesnt work with wpasupplicant the same way as most cards, or I think you'd have the same experience.

 

This is very annoying. If Linux users want to see Linux take off, then it's damn time that hardware manufacturers have Linux driver support that's easy to work with. That, or release specs so we can write the drivers ourselves.

Just fixed that up there.

All those distros use the same tools. If you follow the link l33t-c0w posted, it should help you.

 

I'm connecting my linux machines straight up to my router so that I can run Ubuntu.

It's honestly annoying as hell. People try to pretend like the problem doesn't exist, but it does. I HAVE to run Vista on my other machines so that they run!

 

I think everyone knows about the wireless issues in Linux. I was suprised and impressed when it worked out of the box in Ubuntu 7.04, since it's the first time that's happened for me.

Wireless still not working Zellio? What chipset does your NIC have?

 

Blaming hardware manufacturers is a convenient way for Linux supporters to defend their OS, but those of us who do not care are just people who want to get to work; not muck around with the guts of the OS. The assignment of the blame doesn't matter to me... the problem should get FIXED, and that's that.

 

Okay i followed the instructions of that one website.

I have moderate success.

However, internet still doesn't load.

here is what came up after i typed sudo if up ra0

Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4.
Internet Systems Consortium Copyright 2004-2006
All Rights Reserved.
For Info Please Visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dchp

Listening on LFP/ra0/00:12:17:71:92:9e
Sending on LFP/ra0/00:12:17:71:92:9e
DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
No DHCPOffers received
No working leases in persistant database - sleeping

now if i type sudo ifup ra0

it says

Interface ra0 already configured.

Here's the issue when I check my router from my laptop it shows that my linux and belkin atleast said hello. Under the DHCP client list is all my computers and it shows the specific ip address of the linux with the name fusion (i gave it the name after i got the car). it shows the mac address as well.

anyways. i decided to reconfigure to static ip, but that didn't change the sudo result.

so now wat?

 

btw under wifi radar it says i'm connected as well, but the ip address is radically different.

 

It's a bit hard for us when we CAN'T fix the problem without the manufacturer's help.

MANUFACTURER: Hey guys, we have this cool new wireless card out now, go buy it!
COMMUNITY: Does it have native Linux drivers?
MANU: Nope.
COMM: Well, can you tell us how it works so we can write our own drivers?
MANU: Umm... It's a... wireless card...
COMM: Thanks, thanks a whole bunch.

 

As much as I agree with you here, WPA is still a problem for Linux. I have to use either Windows or OS X to connect to my university's wireless network because neither wpasupplicant nor network manager has ever allowed me to just connect. I have a well supported card, but it still doesn't work. It's a problem. I really don't know what to say to any of you guys having problems. I really wish I could get mine working as well.

 

Have you asked the IT guys at uni? It's funny, my uni allows Ubuntu clients to go online, but not Vista clients. It just uses a standard WPA Enterprise, PEAP, TKIP setup with Thawte certificates. I'm lucky that Ubuntu supports all that.

 

umm so anyone got any suggestions?

aside from lugging a 50 lbs case to school and back?

 

Asking IT would be pointless. They're hooked on Windows like crack. If I even mentioned Linux, they would probably stand there dumbfounded. They just migrated our email over to Novell Groupwise, and have the full client available for download for Windows, OS X, and Linux. But the Linux package is an RPM, meaning it wasn't natively handled by Ubuntu. I managed to get it installed using alien, but it still doesn't work. I emailed them about that about 3 weeks ago telling them they either needed to provide the source or not go through with the migration. Still haven't heard back from them.

 

Umm anyone? I mean it's cool to discuss university tech centers, but I need something a bit more reasonable, cost effective, and most of all quick.

I am losing patience with this.

 

well.. my normal mode of fixing things is really just fiddling with them until they're too exhausted to stay broke... so I'm not sure what else to offer you. It seems like you're still not connecting at all, and dhcp definately isn't working. maybe try the other stuff on the page.

in the terminal, if you type "iwlist scanning" what do you see? how about iwconfig? ifconfig?

 

This guy just installed an app called wlassistant and it appeared to work fine for him. Have you tried that?

 

tried the wla assistant it gives the wep thing.

Here's the scan results.

ra0 scan completed:
cell01 - address:00:11:5:f1:8b:a8
mode:managed
essid: "belkin54g"
encryption key: on
channel: 9
quality: 0/100. signal level: -64 dbm. noise level:-206 dbm.

here's what i get when i type iwconfig

ra0

Rt2500 wireless. essid:"belkin54g"
link quality: 0/100. signal level = -120 dbm. noise level = -206 dbm.
rx invalid nwid:0. rx invalid crypt:0. rx invalid frag:0.
tx excessive retries:0. invalid misc:0. missed beacon:0.

Then for ifconfig

ra0

Link encap: ethernet. hwaddr 00:12:17:71:92:9e.
inet addr: 192.128.2.6. Bcast:192.168.2.255. mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::212:17ff:fe71:929e/64. scope: link
up broadcast running multicast mtu:1500. metric:1
rx packets:0. errors:0. dropped:0. overruns:0. frame:0
tx packets: 18218 errors: 0. dropped: 0. overruns:0. carrier:0.
collisions: 0. txqueuelen: 1000.
rx bytes:0 (0.0 b) tx bytes:892682 (871.7 kib)
interrupt: 18. base address:0x4000

I don't have aclue about anyt of this.

 

http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html

I'm just throwing stuff out there to try and help at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if it were your router though. Belkin routers aren't known to be the most compatible out there (many of there cards are broadcom based). My Wii doesn't work with Belkin routers either.

 

tried that method...

didn't work... because i don't understand it.

I think however I may try it with my laptop.... but how does it work with Intel's wireless abg card?

 

Ubuntu Feisty works immediately with no hassle.