Interested in a Y580

I am the owner of the world's most defective g73jh.

I'm interested in the Y580, how does its defects shape up to a g73? Is there anything I should be aware of before buying?

 

it's built cheaply..... like a $400 asus laptop with some thin sheetmetal, and it creaks and squeaks, snap crackle pop, like a $400 laptop.

the lid is cumbersome to open because it has nowhere for your fingers to grip. you have to stick your thumb nail into a small crack to open it.
But you can get some black self stick bumpers to solve this issue.

under full cpu/gpu load, runs hot over 90c, assuming your room temp is 80F, and then it throttles.
during full load, hard drive runs hot 60C+ because the hot PCH chip is right on top of it.
however, under full cpu load only, it runs normally, and hard drive temps are within normal range, even in a hot 80F room.

so you have to keep this laptop very cool for max performance.

that's about it i think. Hot laptops like this will probably fail prematurely (if you constantly run it at full load)
HP dv6t core i7 seems to run hot as hell too.

If you buy this, make sure to get one of these too........as a cooler


compare that to your g73. Scared yet?

 

Eh, the room where I use my Y580 primarily in ranges between 82-86F. Using Notepal U3, after a few hours of gaming my CPU never goes above 83C. I replaced the HDD with an SSD and the SSD maxes out at 46F (well within the manufacturer's 60C limit), again after a few hours of gaming. Normally, when just browsing, the CPU hovers around 45C and the SSD 36-38C. I placed my HDD in the optical drive bay and the temps max out at 42C, but usually hover around 36-39C.

Again, I never ran Furmark or Prime95 (the latter is called a torture test for a reason) benchmarks, as I don't see the point to using them when I can run the programs I intend to use and measure the temps via a number of monitoring software (HWMonitor, HWiNFO, CrystalDiskInfo, etc). The poster above failed to inform you that he obtained some of his numbers from running those benchmarks. I don't know what the poster above me had to gain by running those benchmarks, other than to check the initial build quality, as those numbers have been around since early June. Also, notebookcheck ran the Furmark test on the ASUS n56 that shot up to 97C! Then again, one poster here ran Furmark on his hp dv6t and he fried his mobo, granted he ran it overnight mistakenly, lol. I'm not too interested in stress benchmarks. I like numbers from real world use.

 

ssri, next time you game, open up hwinfo64 sensors, and record the PCH temperature. I'm curious how low it is with your laptop cooler, after hours of gaming.

yeah i should've explained what i meant by full cpu + gpu load.

However, I ran those stress tests just to see what the max hard drive temps would be. Not to abuse the cpu and gpu.

Using the cpu alone, I can run full cpu load 24/7 and hdd won't pass 50c and PCH holds steady at 65c.

but during gaming, with the gpu also in use, the PCH gets HOT to 80+C, and that's when the hdd gets cooked to 60-65c.

that's about the only major defect. It's pretty good for what I paid..... $850 out the door, with fullHD and bluray burner.

 

There's a fhd model for $850?

 

it was labor day sale on amazon, with $100 rebate.

sale is over though.

price will probably drop during early october black friday sale, like the one lenovo had last year.

 

@link626 ... i believe you have a defective laptop!... i just got my replacement and my graphics card has never gone above 75C max... during gaming it averages at about 70C .... HDD well i got an SSD and it stays cool... as for CPU ... i havent yet even touched that 90C! CPU has reached only about 85 at most and stays lower then that on average...
This laptop stays a bit cooler then my old alienware and has much more power and is even more quiet! i honestly say its the best laptop you can get for only $850

So temps were only CPU: max 85C GPU: max 75C avg:70C ... HDD cant remember but it stays cool with a SSD

The laptop is quiet and runs amazing well.
Only complain i have is the keyboard .. i have the EU style instead of US style here in canada and it sucks!
The LCD opening and closing is great with hardly any noise at all.. nothing else creaks or makes any noises at all but the fan... even that is pretty quiet on mine under full load definatly impressed by this laptop


EDIT! : forgot to say my room temp is about 27C (80.6F)... so very hot in this small room. Only using a cooler master U2 but with the fans removed ... basically just holding the laptop up so typing is easier with a bit more cooling
Can defiantly say this laptop runs cool with an SSD in it not anywhere as hot as link626 says ... even while gaming or benchmarking...

 

nah. not defective.

you should try running furmark and prime95 together for 45 minutes. That's how I got those temps. These are extreme conditions.

under normal gaming, my gpu hovers in the mid 70's. Also, cpu is not very stressed during gaming either, usually only 20% load, so it stays in the 60c's.

100% cpu load alone only gets my cpu temps to 80's max.

the excessive temps are because the copper heat pipe from the gpu and cpu join the heatsinks together, so they share heat.

then add the 80c coming from the PCH chip, and you've got a portable oven.

 

Sooo, remind me what the problem is again? Unless your idea of entertainment is watching benchmarks run for 45 minutes, then you're just inventing things to complain about.

link626, I am disappoint :thumbsup:

 

I was only concerned about the hard drive getting cooked at 62c when both the gpu and cpu were in use, like during gaming.

I never had any problems with the cpu and gpu temps, except in rare extreme cases.

 

I ran benchmarks as well. I locked myself in a meatlocker while running Google Chrome and solitaire together for 45 minutes. Temperatures remained cool. So, results of my benchmarking conclude that the Y580 runs cool.

 

Here are some temps after one hour of gaming on Dirt 2 and Batman: Arkham Asylum (1920x1080, Details: High). The laptop is being cooled by Notepal's U3. Room ambient temp: 80C. In the second one, the room ambient temp is 84C on a humid day.

 

Ah I realized you bought this on Amazon. The Y580s on Amazon are all earlier models (from what I've seen ) then the ones on the Lenovo site. The biggest differentiation is that these older models have 2 USB 3.0 ports rather than the 3 ports found on all Y580s on Lenovo's site now.

Does yours have 2 or 3 USB 3.0 ports?

 

thanks.

mine is just like yours. PCH past 80c.

Your ssd looks very resistant to heat though. Doesn't have wild temp swings like platter drives.

I have 2. I know it's the older version. Fine by me though. 2 is more than enough. Everything else is the same.

 

To be fair, I did see my HDD shoot up to 57C (without a cooler) when simply burning Lenovo's recovery discs out-of-the-box. I replaced it with a Samsung 830 SSD and moved it over to the ODD bay prior to doing any type of gaming on the laptop. I would have more than likely seen the high temps with the HDD like many others if I decided to let it stay in the HDD bay.

 

yeah well, it still shows that blowing air over the hard drive vent helps a lot.

I have a logitech notebook cooler that I got for free, but the fan location is in the wrong place.

I may modify the cooler in the future if i decide to use it. It's a really crappy design that has the fan dead center, and the cooler itself blocks airflow to the heatsink fan vent.