Not entirely OT, but any idea how will this affect the TP rollout of new processors/existing laptops?
Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout | ZDNet
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I think given how hot some of their Arrandale chips tend to be, one could say that Arrandale was already hit with "chip flaws".
Either Intel didnt design their chips hard enough and rushed half-baked product to market (Arrandale) or manufacturers didnt take into account heat dissipation and designed smaller cooling systems according to chips size and Intel's promises on them running cooler(did they promise?), I hope that wont be the case with Sandy Bridge.
Just my assumption on this this topic, hope to see SB running cooler, longer, with even stronger integrated video -
Intel hit with chipset design flaw in Sandy Bridge rollout
I probably have to wait until it arrives. Sheeesh!
addendum: 0A21286 SBB INCI5-560M(2.66GHZ,3MB L3 -
This info has already been posted in X220 thread as well as in separate Intel chipset problem thread
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dylanemcgregor Notebook Consultant
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Ars Technica
In its statement, the company states that customers who have taken delivery of systems with the P67 and H67 "Cougar Point" chipsets can continue to use their systems "with confidence," suggesting that the flaw is restricted to a performance issue and cannot cause data loss. Nonetheless, such users should contact their computer manufacturers to obtain a fixed system.
So users of Lenovo y560p etc. need to get their systems replaced? -
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Atleast Intel is owning up to it and is correcting the issue, even if it means another delay.
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"Atleast Intel is owning up to it and is correcting the issue, even if it means another delay. "
Roger, none of the alternatives for intel were desireable, certainly hiding the fact wasn't.
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Yeah, look at Nvidia, after all these years they do have to shell out some money or free replacements/repairs through laptop makers.
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You guys may not have to panic all that much:
(from Engadget)
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You know...what it means is that intel screwed up...and they owned it because they had to.
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@Midnight, wrong, it affects ALL 6 series chipsets, both desktop and notebook platforms.
Intel Discovers Bug in 6-Series Chipset: Our Analysis - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News -
More information...
"If you have a notebook system with only two SATA ports however, the scenario is a little less clear. Notebooks dont have tons of storage bays and thus they dont always use all of the ports a chipset offers. If a notebook design only uses ports 0 & 1 off the chipset (the unaffected ports), then the end user would never encounter an issue and the notebook may not even be recalled. In fact, if there are notebook designs currently in the pipeline that only use ports 0 & 1 they may not be delayed by todays announcement. This is the only source of hope if youre looking for an unaffected release schedule for your dual-core SNB notebook." -
I've just checked and ASUS has removed or has had them removed all their Sandy Bridge mother boards from Newegg.
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Oh there are no SB motherboards at Newegg at all now that I could find.
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Roger,
I only checked Asus because thats all I use.
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Asus isn't bad. I only ever had one asus board ever die on me.
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I like that intel does their due dilligence on their products most of the time. Same with the SSD issue a while back. Or maybe they are just covering their own azz also in case of future liabilities. In any case at least you know they are not sweeping it under the rug!
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"Asus isn't bad. I only ever had one asus board ever die on me."
I've alway used premium Asus boards but reading the remarks left by people. Asus is going down hill.
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Price is going down, so quality does too...
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Actually the cost of useable Asus boards is going up. I've seen some gaming Asus boards that cost twice the amount ($400) that I used to pay for a good Asus board which was $200.00.
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Technology is one of the reason things can be produced cheaper. There is also economies of scale at play as personal computing became more mainstream and there is more global demand for electronic goods. Overall this allows part manufacturers like intel and western digital to produce everything cheaper relative to the inflation adjusted purchasing power of the average citizen. In effect, the average joe can now afford to buy a 'computer' whereas a similar joe 50 years ago could not because it was state of the art back then. -
This is good side.
The bad one is that manufacturers are not producing high quality things anymore, because it is no longer profitable for them, as most of peoples are about to buy cheaper computers... -
So from that perspective, most computer manufacturer must satisfy the consumer demands, and therefore they are trying to keep costs to a minimum for commodity parts, i.e. screen, keyboards, casing materials, hdd, optical drives, parts used on the motherboards, etc. Therefore, given the cost pressure to the laptop brand company and the manufacturers, they have to find ways to save cost.
To put this in perspective, the ODM of most laptops make about 5% profit, the brand company would make 5% profit. While, the retailer can make up to 15% (on average 7 to 10% profit)..... this doesn't allow much room to maneuver for the laptop company in terms of using complex manufacturing practice, rigorous QC, high quality materials or expensive parts.
The more the laptop companies trying to compete on the price front, the more likely the quality will degrade.
Opposite is true for the Luxury watch industry, where the manufacturers are constantly finding new technology, more exotic materials and new manufacturing processes to drive up the perceived value of their watches.
Intel issue
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