The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    I wish Lenovo would make a T series thinkpad with Llano :(

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by talin, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    4,694
    Messages:
    5,343
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    205
    I guess I'm just thinking out loud, but I would love to see a Llano T series thinkpad. But I know it probably wont happen. :(
    I love the design, durability and flexibility of the T series thinkpads. What do you think are the chances Lenovo might do this?
     
  2. MidnightSun

    MidnightSun Emodicon

    Reputations:
    6,668
    Messages:
    8,224
    Likes Received:
    231
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Very, very low. The core Thinkpad series has historically (15+ years) always used Intel processors, so it's already a radical shift (and a testament to AMD's performance) that some of the Edge and non-core models are available with AMD processors. I wouldn't expect to see AMD processors in the T-series Thinkpads in the near future.
     
  3. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

    Reputations:
    5,413
    Messages:
    10,711
    Likes Received:
    1,204
    Trophy Points:
    581
    AMD's thermals and heat management have always been far inferior to Intel, and that plays a big factor in designing the cooling system. That and MidnightSun has stated, mainstream ThinkPad line, W,T, x (x2__,x3__, x6_) have always used Intel processors.

    You'd probably find Llano in ThinkPad's Edge and L/SL line, but not the mainstream models. Also IdeaPads.
     
  4. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

    Reputations:
    1,571
    Messages:
    8,107
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    231
    I don't think the regular T series would use AMD CPU, Intel still has the marketing power in the CPU industry.
     
  5. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    4,694
    Messages:
    5,343
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    205
  6. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

    Reputations:
    1,571
    Messages:
    8,107
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    231
    ideapad is a whole different beast altogether. The ODM that manufactures them have several options to cover several price ranges, from cheap and chic to fully optioned.

    Lenovo would select those that they believe would sell well and market them accordingly.

    T series on the other hand is more of a bread and butter laptop for the business market, which tend to stick to tried and true options and solutions. Obviously, Lenovo could start to offer more AMD CPU ranges on more business laptops, but that would ire Intel.
     
  7. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

    Reputations:
    5,413
    Messages:
    10,711
    Likes Received:
    1,204
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Well that and Llano's strengths are not computing power, it is graphics prowess. Unfortunately for the business professional, who does coding/compiling CPU power is more beneficial than GPU power. That and again AMD's run hotter and get decimated by Intel's offerings for CPU power.

    Ya I never fancied IdeaPads, the newest ones further cement that.
     
  8. Pseudorandom

    Pseudorandom Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    481
    Messages:
    674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I don't see it happening.
    1. Thinkpad had traditionally been Intel and AMD has traditionally had hot and power hungry mobile parts with Zacate/Ontario/Llano being the first exceptions in a very long time. Maybe in the far future, but Intel exerts a lot of force over the laptop market. Though, many Edge models and the X1XXe series use AMD.
    2. Llano is also more multimedia oriented, there aren't enough business applications that take advantage of a gaming GPU. Unless AMD is willing to make a FirePro Llano (which I think they probably could since Radeon and FirePro are the same chip), I highly doubt there will be a Llano Thinkpad. Also, the other productivity advantage AMD graphics has over Intel and nV, Eyefinity and really the support for 6 monitors off a single chip, is not available on Llano.
     
  9. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

    Reputations:
    1,571
    Messages:
    8,107
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Edge obviously is a good candidate for the AMD processors, since they are more value and multimedia oriented.
     
  10. kirayamato26

    kirayamato26 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    146
    Messages:
    972
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    All the AMD employees probably do, too, so they can trade in their HP ProBooks with AMD stuff in them that last 2hrs on battery in for something much better.