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    How to replace Windows password logon with fingerprint logon COMPLETELY

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Playmaker, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. Playmaker

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    I want to eliminate the password logon option completely from the Windows logon screen. How would I go about doing that?
     
  2. shahbazi

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    what would happen if your finger gets cut off?
     
  3. Playmaker

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    I'd have to have several fingers, 2 toes, and my nose get cut off before I am no longer able to log into Windows. Honestly, spyware is a bigger threat.

    So how is it done?
     
  4. ZaZ

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    A good made up password, meaning not a word, with at least 10 letters, a few of which should be uppercase and a few numbers thrown in too, is harder to get around than a fingerprint. There's any number of places on your notebook where your fingerprint can be lifted because you touch it all the time. I don't know if you can eliminate the logon option. Perhaps there's something in the help files or on Lenovo's website.
     
  5. hypertrophy

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    Didnt you already ask this in another thread Johnny? You're going to need to reinstall client security solutions before you can enable that feature.

     
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    i def would not do it, my fingerprint scanner has already failed to work a few times.
     
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    Well The Good Lord did give you toes. Try your right BIG toe if your fingers get cut off.:laugh: :laugh:
     
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    I agree, besides if I want to access your data I don't need your password.
     
  9. null84

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    lol i wonder do plastic fingers work on finger print.
     
  10. Playmaker

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    I did, but your answer didn't work.

    First of all, the menu you led me to is in the fingerprint software, not Client Security Solution. You simply got to the settings menu in the fingerprint software from a link in the client security solution program, but the settings menu isn't a part of CSS, it is a part of the ThinkVantage fingerprint software. In short, I don't need to install CSS.

    Second, even after selecting the secure mode option, I still saw password logon at boot.

    So yeah, I don't ask questions whose working answers I already know.
     
  11. Playmaker

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    So you can enter my house through the window. Does that mean I shouldn't lock my doors?
     
  12. hypertrophy

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    Just because you are linked there from the CSS to the fingerprint reader software settings pages does NOT mean you can change the settings. You need to install CSS to do so.
     
  13. GridGI

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    You sure can but lock all of them, not just some. Best protection for your data is hard drive password, when enabled the system cannot be booted and data cannot be read even if the drive has been removed from the system.

    Second level of protection is data encryption.

    I guess my post does not answer your original question but it should point you in the right direction if you are serious about data security.
     
  14. Playmaker

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    I don't see that. I've both experienced having CSS installed and CSS not installed. Both times I was able to edit those settings. I don't know if you're using the preload or your own clean install, but that might be the difference.

    Either way, selecting "secure mode" didn't work.

    You are right, but I think there is a gray area that most of us live in. We aren't completely paranoid about using 128-bit encryption to lock up our files, but we aren't lax enough to have no passwords, fingerprints, and the works. Your example isn't simply locking all the doors, it's more like locking all the doors, setting up closed-caption security cameras, and automatic mini-gun turrets that pop out of the walls.
     
  15. hypertrophy

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    Nope, the fingerprint reader software i downloaded was directly from the T61 driver matrix page, so it is current. The settings are not accessible on my system, and the only way to adjust would be through installing CSS (which i have done on a previous clean install). Not only do you have to select Secure Mode, you will also have to play around with the check box settings. When you select Secure Mode, and click the "Administrators' group..." button, is there a list of check boxes?

    Edit: Ignore what i said. The Administrators' group button does nothing. Settings are also accessible with only the fingerprint reader software installed, but is only accessible through the "Run as Administrator" option.

    I cant seem to locate where i found the option to disable password login. I believe it was related to the CSS software, but i cant check at this time because i do not have it installed. In the login tab, when you click details, it shows the login settings for both the fingerprint reader and password.
     
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    With CSS, you can set other users to only be able to login using their fingerprint, BUT, the administrator will still have access to both password and fingerprint login.

    See Ch.4 in this pdf file.
     
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    i know that some people have said that you could just take a fingerprint from where you touched the coumpter but i heard on some show that the lenovo fingerprint reader has some sort of technology that can tell if the finger touching it is "alive" (ie trying to use a severd digit wouldnt work).....
     
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    That wont work because the image is just "smeared" across the sensor. Rub your finger across a narrow piece of glass and see that only lines are produced, not a finger print
     
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    Unless you had your fingerprint molded into it, I doubt it...it would have been a smooth surface, thus no groves for the scanner to detect, which means, no match.
     
  20. Playmaker

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    Any ideas?
     
  21. Outrigger

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    My answer isn't going to help you, but I can tell you that this can be done. I was looking for the same thing, where I can only log in using fingerprint where as typing in a password isn't even an option. I kept trying to get to where you type a password but it won't let me. This was using a T60p that I no longer have.

    This probably happened, after I used the Thinkvantage update program. I really wish I could remember exactly what I did, but this was over half a year ago and I no longer have the Thinkpad. But yes, this CAN be done, so keep searching for the answer.

    I understand that using fingerprint login ONLY isn't necessarily the most "secured" method, but this is a personal preference. The OP isn't asking for whether or not this is the best method for log-in or what he should or shouldn't do. He's just asking for a how to, so for those saying he should have a password log in as well, aren't really helping him.
     
  22. hypertrophy

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    The "Allow to bypass logon using Windows password" option was available for older versions of the fingerprint reader software under settings in the login tab. The new software does not have this option available, and from what i've read, the administrator needs to have a windows password in order to change user profiles for others if the other users are unable to login using just their fingerprint. Secure mode would have to have been selected for this option to work.

    Feel free to look through this pdf file for more info.
     
  23. Playmaker

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    That sucks. Anyhow, thanks for the answer, hypertrophy.
     
  24. chaywoo

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    Im having the same problem, except what I did was go to control panel, user accounts, selected me, and selected enter new password, I was first asked to enter my old password, and just left the new password boxes empty, and I no longer was requested to enter in my password at logon, and I can logon with just finger swipe which is nice, BUT, I can also take my silly mouse, select the user, which is me, and the fingerprint request is bypassed and I go straight into windows (serious security)... So I am trying to find out how to make the fingerprint reader actually secure the laptop when it comes out of standby, but it wont... I also selected "LOCK MY COMPUTER" and all I have to do is simply get the mouse and select the user, me, and the fingerprint reader is bypassed and I go straight to windows again... So far, I havent been able to get the fingerprint reader to secure anything... I want to just bring the laptop out of standby and conveniently swipe my finger instead of typing in passwords, and so far, its useless.... im using lenovo t61