How much better is the y510p than the y500?

Has anyone actually been able to compare the two, specifically, gaming wise? Is there an notable increase in FPS? I have seen that the scores 3dmark11 scores are in the 5000's, how much better is this than the y500's in terms of gaming capabilities?

 

the specs are so similar. other than the new 4th gen cpu, they are pretty much the same laptops. performance should be about the same.

 

IdeaPad Y510p High-Performance 15.6" Multimedia Laptop from Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

Take note of the battery: 5 hrs of battery in this gen vs 3 hrs in the previous gen.

 

I think they enabled the Intel GPU on the Y510p. I have the Y500 (gotta wipe it before I send it back) and was never able to install the Intel Graphic drivers. Last night I was trying to upgrade the Y510p video drivers to the latest (unsuccessfully) so I could run an apple to apple 3dmark comparison using same drivers to see the performance difference. Long story short I wiped out the shipping drivers for a reinstall and Nvidia setup wanted me to install a valid Intel graphic driver. When the Y510P is on battery I can definitely tell you it is using the Intel GPU.

 

Screenshot or I call bull.

 

Look in device manager and see of the Intel gpu is listed.

 

I don't think that means it's enabled, I'm pretty sure it's disabled reading from everyone else's post .

Though, I'd love to be wrong .

 

If it were disabled it wouldn't show up in Device Manager or the Nvidia Control Panel at all.

 

I only have one of the cards in the Y510P the ultrabay is in my Y500 at the moment (Civ V free steam weekend).

 

Is there anyway you can confirm it's actually using the Intel HD ? I'm sure they said it doesn't have optimus due to the SIL config option .

 

I was trying to mess around with some settings and when I go to the advanced settings under screen resolution it shows I'm currently using the Intel. I've been trying to figure out a way to tell if its doing it automatically. In that screen I uploaded I enabled some tray settings from Nvidia and Intel. That last notification is the Nvidia GPU activity. I've seen the notice switch tell me I'm using it. Let me run 3d mark when on battery and on power and see. I don't have any games unfortutly since I'm going to wipe the machine and hopefully be able to boot Win8 from the 24GB SSD.

 

#1. 5 Hour battery life Is an improvement.
#2. Haswell is a 10% improvement overall Plus it offers Twice the vector processing performance over 3rd Gen.
#3. Improved components and design, Somehow its thinner and lighter, they went over the system and made design improvements.

Now if you do a side by side of a Y500 GT750 3rd Gen Ivy Bridge vs a Y510 GT750 4th Gen Haswell You can not distinguish the difference.

For me, $940.20 with Tax using the Gold Barnes and Noble Teachers Union webiste. for a SLI GT750 wih 12GB DDR3 RAM and 1TB HDD 16GB SSD and 1080p Glossy Display. Minus selling my old laptop for $200 thats $740.20

For a pretty awesome system. If I wanted to go with 4th Gen Haswell Y510 it would have cost me an extra $400 out of pocket since Lenovo's Specials are not as good right now.

 

Ok I ran some 3dmark tests. First 3 pictures are on battery power and Nvidia setting was set to use Nvidia (1), Intel (2), Auto (3) respectively. 4th shot is on power but Nvidia GPU control was set to auto select.

 

Omg i just hurried of buying y500...
Real regression starts... This y510 thing is almost perfect

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Mother of God !

 

So what do you think? Is it better to buy the Lenovo y500 SLI with nice discounted price knowing the advantages of y510p? Since y510p SLI config is a bit more on the expensive side! Or do you think Lenovo y510p (basic) is the best option to buy at this moment right now? Please fish me out of this 1100$ laptop soup.

 

What did you do to get this deal??? When I logged in to Lenovo ( Barnes and Noble Gold | Lenovo | (US)) the y500 SLI is $1,089 without tax!

 

Thanks for the tests. It's hard to tell what card you're using on battery because the 750M should be throttled(and unless I'm missing something, 3DMark isn't saying which card is enabled). One sure fire way to see if Intel is working is to run a game on power by right clicking the shortcut and selecting the video card you want to use(it should give you the option). You might have to use Fraps to be sure, but any modern game will be painfully slow on Intel.

Still, it looks like you have the Intel graphics drivers installed, which is more than the Y500 was ever able to do. It looks like Lenovo left it unlocked in the bios after all. I'm looking forward t seeing how well it works with a second 750M installed. Hopefully you can simply disable the card and then Optimus enables. Very happy I'm making the switch now though

 

HMM interesting. I say now the only thing left to do is wait for nvidia to release proper drivers for their 750m and see if they can implement that functionality for auto switching. It seems though that it's still using the 750m as the primary just lowering the clock speed for lower power consumption.

Oh Campy, I also ordered mine on newegg and was wondering if the 8gb ssd is actually there or not. Can you clarify that for me?? Thanks

 

But the first three screenshtos are all on battery and using the 750m on battery actually gave around the same score as using the 750m on power, while only using auto and intel gave a different score.

By the way, it has been confirmed multiple times here and on the slcikdeals forums as well that it is indeed a 24GB SSD rather than 8GB on Newegg (I'm not sure whether 8GB is actually being manufactured).

 

Yup so it's still using the 750m as the primary and downclocking. Intel 4600 would show under those scores as what graphics cards are being used ( I might be wrong through)

Thank you soo much, so for $250 (total with tax) less than Lenovos site you only loose the 4gb of ram. Now that is the best deal you can get imo. Now Lenovo might have a better warranty but Neweggs is fine also

 

Yeah I don't know how its supposed to work but if you look at the pictures 3dmark does not like the Y510P stock Nvidia driver. Whenever Intel came into play those tests had a valid result because the driver used was "3dMark approved". The Firestrike tests all have "not approved" in all the pictures presumably because I had the Phyx setting to auto so even though in some tests it was supposed to use Intel (test 2) it still came up as having used the Nvidia. When I looked at the test details all the tests had a Primary(Nvidia) and Secondary (Intel) GPU so its confusing if its even working as intended. I'm sure as more people get their Y510P we'll know more. I'm gonna pop the Ultrabay back in and re-run the tests again later today.

@Equant I got my Y510P from Fry's locally. I could have also ordered and (walk-in pick up from Newegg) so I can't verify if Newegg will come with the 24GB ssd.

 

To the guy who got Optimus (or equivalent power savings) working on the Y510p, I would love to see if you could get it working on the SLI version.

 

I'm sure someone will find some way to make it work. I'm just glad they left it unlocked. In the y500, there's no way to get even as far as you did. Even if I have to manually switch, it's still better than not having it at all. Ideally, all I want is a power profile that forces Intel graphics only while on battery. I don't play games unplugged and if I do, the throttled gpu won't be much better than the integrated graphics anyways.

 

Here are the 3dmark scores with SLI (Intel gpu does not show up in device manager or Nvidia controls) 1st pic is powered 2nd is battery.

Basically if you want to game better power it up otherwise the laptop is good for doing work.

 

Hey, did you change any energy management/battery settings while testing with battery only? Moreover I think the thing most people would be interested in is a test like battery eater, so if you'd have the time and be willing to try that out I'd really appreciate it.

 

What model did you buy from fry's?

 

I bought the sli/12gb ram / 24gb ssd model.

@ROOY I'll leave the battery test to others, battery management was and always is on high performance.

I'm not planning on using this on battery for much other than surfing/emails while at home on the couch. If I cared about battery life and portability I would have bought an ultrabook.

 

Cool, does it show back up in device manager when you turn SLI off in Nvidia settings or is it only when the cats ifs completely removed?

 

Nope. Intel only appears when the ultrabay card is not present.

 

How well does the 24GB SSD work as a cache?
I know it won't be a true SSD like performance but does it help the Y510P from feeling like a regular slow HDD?

 

Once you have stuff cached to it, I think it will help. Though it's nowhere near as fast as the Plextor msata ssd that I added to my Y500, which sadly I can't use on my Y510P in addition to the HDD.

 

If you can buy the newest stuff, do so.

The CPU side is only 7% faster per clock. If you own Ivy Bridge, I say not worth it.

 

Someone in the Ideapad y510p thread said that the bios was unlocked. Does this mean we can use wifi cards other than the ones Lenovo whitelisted for the y500?

 

So you are saying that Intel Graphics is enabled along Nvidia Card and you get Optimus?
Asking this because Intelg Graphics was disabled in previous Y500 model.

 

Yes, the Intel GPU is present and enabled, but only when you have one 750m present. I believe it's disabled when you're running SLI.

 

Can you please take out the second 750m card and post a score of the Intel Graphics card in Vantage?

 

The y510p with one video card and blu ray is lasting me less than 3 hrs on battery life. That sucks because Lenovo said it would last about 5 hrs. I was watching a lot of video on it, but i didn't game at all during those 3 hours. Brightness was a bit more than halfway...

 

Turn off the Nvidia GPU when not gaming, use the intel one (HD 4600) and you will get over 3 hours. To switch to the intel gpu, go in the nivida control panel, then in 3D settings, then set the preferred GPU to intel. And yes, the itenl GPU can handle 1080p video (bluray). In fact, the HD 4600 can play league of legends at a decent resolution...

 

Is it possible to disable the Intel graphics in the non-SLI version of the y510p?

The 'preferred GPU' setting in the nVidia CP seems to have no effect on normal operation outside of games.

I'm having trouble getting the external Asus PB278 monitor to work and I think if Windows was running using the 750m it might.