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    How is the 140M on T61?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by qqz07, May 22, 2007.

  1. qqz07

    qqz07 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I searched the internet, I found that the 140M has 1826 in 3dmark06. I can hardly believe it because according to Nvidia, 140M is a 64bit only video card. Even x1400 is 128bit, and x1400 can only score 9xx in 3dmark06. Who can clarify this? Thank you.

    I am a wow player, I ever tried my Z61m (x1400) once on Dell 2407wfp, it runs at about 12fps at 1920x1200 with 1x sample and others at max. Can I expect my new T61 run wow at 20fps under similar condition?
     
  2. stgben

    stgben Notebook Geek

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    The NVS 140m is comparable to the ATI x1600, so yes you should be able to get atleast 20fps. Not to mention the highest resolution on the T61 is 1440x900.
     
  3. sp00n

    sp00n Notebook Deity

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    The Nvidia Quadro video card in the Thinkpad is NOT gaming card. It is for 3D rendering, not gaming.

    3DMark is a benchmarking tool aimed for gaming cards, hence the low score.

    If you're expecting to play games on your laptop, I would suggest you get a different laptop. Thinkpads are business machines, not gaming machines.
     
  4. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    You certainly be able to play games on it though as noted if gaming is a priority there are probably better options.
     
  5. Daniel L

    Daniel L Notebook Guru

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    I don't know if your reading comprehesion is low or if you're in a rush but the original poster was surprised by the high 3dmark06 score the NVidia 140M was able to achieve. Secondly, I use my Thinkpad to game everyday. There are better choices out there but gaming with a workstation graphics card is perfectly acceptable.
     
  6. leof

    leof Notebook Consultant

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    the 140m is essentially an 8400m with a different driver. and an 8400m is equivalent to an x1600, as noted earlier. defintely acceptable.
     
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    lowlymarine Notebook Deity

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    To reiterate what's being said (and add a little extra), yes the NVS 140M will be fine for WoW. Heck, the GMA x3100 would be fine for WoW - it's hardly a very intense game.

    Also, the way the memory bus works on the new G80-based GPUs is different than before. Don't ask me for specifics, but theoretically the new buses are twice as good as the old ones, hence why the 8800GTX only has a 384-bit bus for it's 768MB of VRAM, the 8600GTS a 128-bit bus for its 256MB of VRAM, and the NVS 140M a 64-bit bus for its 128MB. That's nVidia's story, anyways, and it seems to work well enough on the desktop cards.

    And I would like to note that as 14.1" and smaller notebooks go for gaming - no, actually, there is really no better choice right now, except maybe the ASUS A8Js and Compal HGL-30, but those are previous-generation technology now (and have terrible battery life). Compal will theoretically have a 14.1" with an 8600M GT out soon, though, and if you live basically anywhere but the US, Zepto has one, too (probably based on the aforementioned Compal, like before), although no word on whether they're going to have a bigger battery than the previous generation of 14.1" gaming laptops (which, if I recall correctly, all had 5n-WHr 6-cells).
     
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    vermicious Notebook Consultant

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    Yup, Intel listed that WoW is compatible, but they have poor driver support. The game will work but it won't be as fast or as pretty as the 140m. And lowlymarine is right, WoW is not a graphically intensive game. Blizzard has always been clever about trying to make games with very low requirements, giving them access to as many customers as possible.
     
  9. sp00n

    sp00n Notebook Deity

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    I was in a rush and saw an extra 'x' in that number (I saw 9xxx for some reason).

    For a 3D game like World of Warcraft, your money is better spent on a video card that's meant for gaming.
     
  10. winkosmosis

    winkosmosis Notebook Evangelist

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    Why do people parrot this myth so much here? Notebooks with the 140M are no more expensive than ones with the X1600 or X1400, and it performs like the X1600. Just because nVidia markets it for workstation use doesn't mean it can't game.

    Did you not see the 3DMark score????????????
     
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    admlam Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    3Dmark06 score tells us very little. Rule of thumb: Never expect next generation's midrange to perform exactly as good as last generations high-mid range.

    The x1600 has a higher score than the nvs 140m in 3dmark03, (8000 vs 5000) proving that the x1600 still has a little more "umph" going for it.

    The comparison between a x1600 and x1400 is more accurate. Both are still very capable cards for gaming.
     
  12. qqz07

    qqz07 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, basically with Nvidia's new technology, video card running at 64 bit memory bus can compare to 128 bit memory bus? Then it make sense, otherwise it is impossible for a 64 bit card archieve 18xx in 3dmark06.
    Yes, I buy T61 for work purpose only, play light game like wow just to kill time when I am really bored.