Taken from here:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10045970-1.html
Taken from here:
http://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-thinkpad-x200t-tablet-pc-x200s-ultraportable-announced-1816691/
NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess I'll be going with the regular X200 after all... :-(
I think what Lenovo did with the X200s was to wait for Dell to announce the price of the E4200, and then set its price to compete with that. We already know that the X200s could have been released at a much lower price, as seen from the prices advertized at the Baptist university site (which were there well before Dell announced the E4200 price).
Here you have a weird example of competition working against the consumer (if Dell didn't have an offering for the UMPC line, Lenovo would have released the X200s with a similar price to the X61s, which is close to $1000 USD).
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Gosh, please no.
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Please no.
Hoping a fake is founded: both aren't well informed, they refer to "notebooks.com" (which aren't well informed too: an ultrabay battery for X200 series - err where the f*?), a 8-cell battery, the exactly same release dates etc.
Presumably refering to the same source. -
If this pricing is correct, it is a sign of unprecedented greed by Lenovo.
Let me remind you that in contrast to the basic model of the E4200 (which is cheaper!), the basic model of the X200s comes without a SSD drive and without a LED screen, and without a sleek design and look and without the Lattitude ON feature (which is basically another CPU), and all this while the X200s is actually heavier than the E4200 (by 13%).
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I think the 64Gb SSD option is about 400$, so the basic price could be far more reasonable. -
We can safely relax, for now. -
How can you hope a new laptop, especially a thinkpad X200s to be cheap just at the beginning?
wait for the THX giving day and then the price will drop down -
Well, it is a premium laptop (at least that's how I perceive it). $1000 premium over the x200 is a bit high though. Perhaps it'll go down once it's been out for a month or two?
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If those are the US prices, it's going to mean it's going to start at $2.5k-3k in Canada. Glad I ordered my E4300.
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weight, size and batttery life are most important
for those, X200(s) is what you need -
Weight and battery life are both mainly a by product of using a LED screen, and lower voltage CPUs. I already took these into the price consideration. -
The LED screen is WXGA+. Maybe that adds a couple of hundreds to the price?
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At those prices, I'll take two T400s...the T400 is not that much bigger than a X200.
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If you have to ask "How Much Does It Cost?" or "Why Does It Cost So Much?" for anything, you can't afford it in the first place.
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It is a free market. Lenovo prices their product at what the market will bear. Their main market is the corporate road warriors who are willing to pay a premium for an ultraportable laptop.
If the price is above your willingness to pay, you can either not buy the product or buy an equivalent product from another vendor. -
The price for an SSD "optimized" X200 has an MSRP of $2674. MSRP prices mean nothing - we all know this! Whether or not the X200s price quoted is MSRP or retail we don't know. However, we do know that the SSD alone is an $824 upgrade for the X200. Take that amount off of the $2242 "optimized X200s" price and we are at $1418.
No need to worry - we can count on the X200s with WXGA+ costing slightly more than the X200 which is currently selling through Lenovo's regular web portal for as low as $1252. There are various ways to get a lower price than that of course. I'm planning on my X200s config coming in at <$1500 including the ultrabase and WXGA+ screen.
BTW, I just bought my Lenovo L220x monitor and DiNovo Edge keyboard in anticipation of hooking it up to an X200s -
And here is proof, as if we needed it...X200s pre-order for $1486:
http://www.costcentral.com/proddeta...2gb_160_Gb_121_wxga_Bt_Fp_Xpp/74663HU/T35290/
SL9400 1.8GHz processor (best available)
2GB
160GB HDD
WXGA CCFL LCD
Fingerprint reader
Bluetooth
XP Pro
Credit goes to username " " for the link -
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I don't consider the X200 to be ultraportable. The old Sony X505 - Now THERE was an ultra-portable. 5 years ahead of the MacBook Air, and more functional.
Buy whatever you like - just compare a X200 to a T400, and the difference just doesn't seem worth it. -
In a couple years, SSD will be vastly improved, much bigger, and much cheaper on par with HDD. Until then, stick with HDD and save the $$$ for your next laptop. -
btw, All Business = Greed, that's the nature of the beast -
Yep, I recall paying WELL OVER five grand for a ThinkPad 700 series in, gosh was it 1996, don't even remember.
It's capitalism, guys. BTW, Dell appears to be using the same ridiculous strategy with the E4200 although I was able to spec a nice one MPP and DPA discounts for around $2500. Still expensive but much less than MSRP. It's too bad the E4200 doesn't have the WXGA+ screen. That's a real plus. -
That was one powerful and sexy machine back then.. And people are complaining about the X200 leaving space on the sides of the 12.1 inch screen...
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If this is a X200s, I wonder how much will the LED screen add to the price, and also how much does the current configuration weigh... -
Mkay, too much panic for no reason here, even from my reasonable side.
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How are you supposed to decipher that bfp and xpp stuff on that costcentral site? and is it a reputable vendor? Any feedback on how they are?
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Interesting information (from PC Magazine, a respectable source):
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Here is another vendor listing the same notebook as available Sept 23:
http://www.neutronexpress.com/prod.cfm/888397/
In regards to the LED screen cost...I really don't know what to think of how much this option will add to the price. The "ultralight" display (lighter and brighter) on the outgoing X61s was a ~$30 upgrade but the resolution was the same as the base diaplay. I am guessing that the WXGA+ LED upgrade, which is also lighter and brighter but also higher res, will add somewhere between $50 - $150 to the price.
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Cost_Central -
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OK sorry 3 posts in a row but...
hold the phone! We have a *reputable* seller here listing a WXGA+ LED model for $1507:
http://www.provantage.com/lenovo-74663hu~7LENO0XX.htm -
Regarding the 1440x900 issue, I just installed Vista and Explorer 8 (which has correct DPI scalling, in contrast to Explorer 7), together I get a pretty good scalling. I think I could live with a 1440x900 resolution. -
Best Seller configuration usually sell at the price that Lenovo will eventually drop it to after its initial launch.
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Not to mention those senseless typos on their commerce site, a company with 30 people could care more for the production site. -
It's confirmed guys! The model sold on Provantage is the X200s!
This is the Provantage link:
http://www.provantage.com/lenovo-74663hu~7LENO0XX.htm
Model number is 74663hu, which is now active on Lenovo:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/quickPath.do?quickPathEntry=74663HU -
ThinkPad X200s 74663HU 7466 3HU
(12.1-in WXGA+ TFT LED backlit panel,
Intel GS45 Express chip set
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD,
Bluetooth, Fingerprint Reader,
Intel Core 2 Duo processor SL9400,
160 GB / 7200 rpm ,
Modem + 5-in-1 Media Card Reader, 2 GB,
Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN (1 x 2),
Genuine Windows Vista Business with Windows XP Professional downgrade,
6-cell Li-Ion battery)
The only part that is unclear is how many DIMMs make up the 2GB configuration. Either way, I just ordered one. -
Very nice. I also ordered one. Let me know if there's any update to your machine. I received an email from Provantage that they're ordering from Lenovo. When Lenovo ship the laptop to them, they will ship it to me. But it's been one week and I still haven't heard anything from them yet. Hopefully they will receive the laptop from Lenovo soon. I can't wait to try it out! -
Why would they put the Intel WiFi 5100 in there, and not the 5300? Can't be many dollars saved there.
I know there are models with the 5300, but still! Are all the antennas in the X200(s) so one could just replace it with the 5300? -
It would be useful to know if the X200s with the 5100 comes with all 3 antennas anyway, making the replacement of the 5100 with a 5300 (or perhaps even a 5350) a simple matter.
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If I pull my trigger on the Provantage one, I still need to upgrade the memory (at least 3g) and extend the warraty. That would be something around 1507 + 100(ram) + 200(2 more years warranty) = 18xx.
If you purchase the warranty separately, it is much more expensive than purchasing with the machine (around $80).
Do you guys think the cpp price will come down to somewhere close to the price above with more ram and extended warranty in the next 2 or 3 weeks?
I really hope I can configure a turbo memory and 5300 wireless card into it. Not sure how much is the difference on system performance and signal reception without them.
Does any of you have experience purchasing thinkpad outside of lenovo.com and calling to upgrade the warranty?
I am worry about what if the cpp price goes further down while I am waiting for the Provantage order. -
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There are 1G turbo memories for T61 though. -
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ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pcinstitute/psref/tabook.pdf
I'd highly advise going over the list and determining which of the configurations from the PDF file best suit your needs and then do a price check on the machine type. You will most likely find something closer to what you want and have the ability to upgrade based on that.
Horrible price on the X200s !!!
Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by noam23, Sep 19, 2008.