Haswell

Just wondering what everyone's thoughts about waiting for haswell are? I know the performance increase isn't supposed to be that great, but how much battery life would be added by haswell over ivy bridge? Would it be worth it to order now, or wait a little over a month for haswell?

 

It will be well over a month. They will go on back order and take probably another month to get. 30-40 min of battery life. Wait if you want but I wouldn't.

 

I'm guessing we'll start to see haswell equipped Y500/Y400s late june/early july. If you don't need a laptop right now I'd wait. I'm holding off because lenovo have still yet to supply the 750m to Europe. I start college back in september so i'm not looking for a new laptop right now. It just depends on your current situation. If you don't need one I'd hold off and wait till you get a better overall specced machine in the next 1/2 months.

 

If Lenovo keeps the same configuration for the new chips and the integrated GPU is disabled, you really can only look at it from a CPU point of view. Will the CPU really give that much battery savings since the dedicated GPU is a big power draw and will continue to be in the Y400/500 with any CPU. Also is the actual CPU going to provide that much performance increase? I haven't done a lot of research on Haswell but everything seems to be focused on how good the integrated GPU is and not as much on the actual CPU processing power.

 

Well from what I've heard it's around 10-15% of a speed increase, so not that big of a deal. The biggest thing is it's supposed to consume a lot less power. Considering how much power the gpu pulls, it might not increase the battery life to much since optimus is disabled.

If they change the y500 to have optimus enabled though, It could lead to a huge improvement in battery life. I don't think that it will happen though, so I went ahead and ordered one yesterday on the 11th =). Estimated arrival date is only on the 14th, so pretty good shipping speed compared to some of the stories I've heard.

 

Since this is a notebook CPU we're talking about, battery improvement is always a good thing, I'd wait a month for that. Imagine if your new laptop could last perhaps 10 hours of normal usage, you'd free some space on your bag leaving your charger behind.

About the graphics in Haswell, it said to be more than 2x performance on current Intel HD 4000 found in Ivy Bridge: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2562853/0004.jpg . Which is great if you're considering an ultrabook.

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Well if it went from 3 hours battery life to 10 hours, then ya definitely worth waiting a couple of months, but most likely 30 minutes or so it seems will be the increase. Also the 2x performance on Intel HD 4000 is a moot point considering that the dedicated graphics is always on, with no way to use intel hd since optimus is disabled. Which is why I went ahead and ordered one the other day.

 

I have the same estimated arrival date but the thing is that they haven't shipped the laptop yet. So let me know if you will get yours on that day,please?

 

Like all things computer technology related, especially on the eve of any release, find out about the new technology, it's release schedule, and make an informed decision about whether the new tech will provide enough of a difference to your experience.

In the case of Haswell and high-end Ultrabooks giving the best performance to portability ratio, then yes, I believe it is definitely worth the wait. Absolutely.

Haswell isn't just a processor or chipset bump, it's an entirely new approach to whole-of-platform integration for Intel and Intel's component manufacturers. It's a lot more than the basic notion of power efficiency that we all have. It's about responsiveness in whatever state the system is in, being able to receive messages, emails and other updates while in the deepest sleep state, and about instant-on. It's also about fitting more into less room, which is great for Ultrabooks.

It's about bringing the laptop experience into line with the tablet and smartphone experience.

Although it gets a bit technical towards the end, Anand is really able to show how important Haswell is:
AnandTech | Intel's Haswell Architecture Analyzed: Building a New PC and a New Intel

 

It ended up getting delayed a day, but is in transit atm. Should arrive tomorrow on the 15th =)

 

Good to hear. My is a replacement and for some reason there is no tracking/... But my return person told me that it should be here in this week. I hope both of our laptops don't have any QC issues.

 

haha ya me too, would suck to finally get it, and then have to send it right back. What was wrong with your first one?

 

Keyboard wasn't installed right. When I press the "delete" button the area around the key flex really bad. Not a huge problem but it was really annoying.