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    Going for a T430, need some input

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by smc333, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. smc333

    smc333 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi All,

    I work in IT, and I am continuing studies in computer science. I am coming from a Late 2011, 15" MBP, which I am thinking about selling because I really like how Microsoft is going with Windows 8, and the deep integration across platforms. The T430 is the perfect machine because it is rugged, portable, and practical. I do have a few questions about the configuration that I'd like input on.

    1. How easy is the RAM to upgrade? Rather than spend $160 to go to 8GB, I was going to purchase my RAM through Crucial for $52 to get 8GB of DDR3/1600. Will my warranty get voided by any of this?

    2. What are your thoughts on the graphics? I was thinking of sticking to Intel for stability and reliability, as nVidia has a less than stellar track record, and all I'll do graphically is watch video, and use the effects of Metro/Modern/whatever, I won't do any gaming or anything graphically intense. I assume the power consumption under Intel-only is probably much better, too.

    3. What is the sweet spot for the wireless adapter? I was thinking of going middle ground for the 6205, as I hear the benefits of the 6300 are not realized in most scenarios.

    4. Can I skip Bluetooth? I don't use it, but I would like the option to add it internally later, if needed. Can this be done? I'd rather not have it as long as it is something I won't use (keep it simple!).

    Other thoughts:

    Probably going to go with the entry-level i5, I don't need VT-D, and that seems like a worthwhile upgrade for $30 over the i3, but I don't see the value in spending more on a CPU upgrade for menial benefits. I'm going to get the 1600x900 screen, as well as the webcam, and I'll skip the fingerprint reader and most likely the unneeded backlit keyboard.

    Any and all input will be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Kaso

    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    Extremely easy. Search for and download the well-illustrated T430 Hardware Maintenance Manual PDF. Shop for what you like, at the best price. And, no, warranty is not affected.

    The Intel HD 4000 is quite capable. Given your usage profile, I vote for integrated graphics. Your assumption is correct: the system runs cooler and quieter, and the battery lasts longer.

    Intel 6205 is solid (I am using one right now). If you want to save some bucks for upgrades, the Intel 2x2 2200 is very good, and is sometimes offered as $0 upgrade from the 1x1 ThinkPad Realtek.

    I always skip Bluetooth. Save the money for RAM and SSD upgrades.

    Good considerations. (I like your way of thinking and shopping. :))

    EDIT: Consider carefully before you hit the Buy button. It's a big hassle if you want to "modify" or "cancel" an online Lenovo order!!! Do your homework (which forum friends can help), then stick with it.
     
  3. changt34x

    changt34x Notebook Consultant

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    Pretty much all of the questions have been answered very well. HD 4000 is the best way to save money, but if you do get Optimus (might only be $50, or at least it was when I bought it) you have the option of graphics if you ever want them. You can also disable it completely in the BIOS for power savings, so I think spending $50 now is worth it if you can. Also, I would recommend the backlit keyboard (mostly since you are coming from a MBP) but if you don't use it on the MBP I guess you won't use it later either.

    A couple things you should notice too. The screen is serviceable but not so good, definitely not as good as 15" MBP. Also, you may want to check out the wifi issues on the recent batch (other thread on the problem). We have a very large number of units manufactured at around the same time confirmed with the problem. Most buyers did get the 6300 card, but swapping in another card (like 6205) did not solve the problem which lies with the PCI bus. What happens is that when the unit enters sleep the entire interface and wifi card disappear, and only will reappear with a shut down and then start up. I would wait a bit to see if it is a more widespread problem before buying.
     
  4. Kaso

    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, the NVIDIA NVS 5400M is not significantly better than the Intel HD 4000 (unless CUDA support is needed, but this is not obvious in the OP's usage requirements). Turning off Optimus and disabling the NVIDIA after spending $50 upgrade for it does not make much sense. As the OP wanted to "keep it simple," I'd rather save that $50 on RAM or SSD upgrade.