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    GMA960 Chipset = Santa Rosa w/ X3100?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MChong, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. MChong

    MChong Notebook Guru

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    I just received my T61; and I ordered reading about the Santa Rosa and the X3100 and whatnot. However, my parts list is as follows:

    7658CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM
    Serial Number: L3A3327
    $1,458.00 $1,458.00
    7658CTO CTO THINKPAD T61 WITH INTEGRATED GRAPHICS 1 Y
    42V8190 SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7300
    42V8011 VBB MS WIN VISTA HOME PREMIUM
    42V9565 SBB MSWIN VHP32 US ENGLISH
    42X1670 SBB 14.1"WXGA TFT,W/ CAMERA
    42X0905 ** SBB INTELGMA960W/1394, SMARTCARD
    41W2063 VBB 2GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 2DIMM
    42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
    42V9330 SBB UN(TRACKPOINT+TCHPD)+ FING.R
    42V8705 SBB 100 GB HDD,7200RPM
    42V8193 SBB INTEL TURBO MEMORY 1GB
    42V8715 SBB DVDREC8XMAXDUALLAY,UBAYSLM
    42X0805 SBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARDSLOT
    41W1685 SBB 11ABGWIFI WL LAN USEULAANZ
    62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
    42V9339 SBB 7 CELL LI-ION BATERRY
    41W1787 SBB CPK NORTH AMERICA
    27R1769 SBB PSTN CABLE
    42V9391 SBB LANG.PACK US ENGLISH
    42V9428 SBB PACKAGING US
    42V9641 SBB 14.1WXGAW/OWWAN11N,W/CAMBT
    39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED MODEM
    42V8646 SBB CL.PLATE T61WLANANDBLTOOTH
    42V9665 SBB FCC, LABEL
    42V9667 SBB GEO LABEL US, WLAN,BT
    41W2300 SBB LOGO PLATE
    42V9632 SBB INTEGRWWAN ANT:14.1" 11ABG
    42X0920 SBB INTELGMA 960 W/1394,W/AMT
    42V9651 SBB MT 7658 SYSTEM LABEL
    42X0929 SBB MECH MISC PARTS
    42V7972 SBB MS LABEL (VISTA PREMIUM)
    42T7135 SBB INTEL LABEL CORE-2
    42X0914 SBB NO SIM MODEL
    42X1352 SBB PC CARDSLOT EXPRESCARDSLOT
    42V9634 SBB STAND LCD C/B:14.1"W/ CAM
    42X0915 SBB WLAN MISC PARTS
    42X0912 SBB WWAN MISC PARTS
    42X1482 SBB BLUETOOTH W/ ANTENNA
    42X1702 SBB BLUETOOTH SCREW
    42V8063 SBB MS WAU ENGLISH NA-U MODELS
    42V9341 SBB 1GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SODIMM


    I searched for the GMA 960 but nothing conclusive came up; is it the same as the 965 X3100 platform?
     
  2. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    Yes, that laptop has the x3100.
     
  3. benegessrit

    benegessrit Notebook Enthusiast

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  4. MChong

    MChong Notebook Guru

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    Awesome, that's why I was confused; Intel didn't list a 960.

    Thanks for your help!
     
  5. crxtreme

    crxtreme Notebook Guru

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    Mine says 960 too. Why would Lenovo do this?
     
  6. willzzz

    willzzz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Actually this is correct, and your order has the Santa Rosa chipset. Actually all Lenovo T61's use the Santa Rosa platform, the previous generation T60 used the 1 generation older chips. You need to understand Intel's mobile/laptop chipset platforms and naming conventions.
    First the X3100 is Intel's Integrated GPU (integrated graphics platform) which is a component of the base GM/PM 965 chipset platform which is the integrated silicon logic board (motherboard) that ties all the components of the Intel mobile platform together. The latest platform code-named Santa Rosa with the PR/Marketing names goes by Centrino Duo/Pro (which in itself is a subset of a Intel Santa Rosa CPU (the odd numbered series in the T7x designation; e.g. T7300), Mobile Base Chipset, and the WLAN Chipset amongst other things...).

    In simple terms, yes your laptop has the latest Intel mobile platform/chipset.
    Intel's latest mobile platform and the architecture is simplified in this wikipedia article for the masses:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino
     
  7. crxtreme

    crxtreme Notebook Guru

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    This doesn't explain at all why it would say 960 as the GPU.
     
  8. s4iscool

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    its lenovo, thats why the spec sheet is screwed up
     
  9. odin243

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    The name of the GPU is the x3100, the name of the graphics chipset is the 960. Lenovo's internal part naming apparently favors the term GMA960, even though that isn't absolutely correct. If you go back a couple of generations you get the analogous situation when Intel named it's GPU "Intel Extreme Graphics" while the chipset was called the 850. Some people called the GPU the GMA850 even though that wasn't it's name. In short, all Santa Rosa integrated GPU's are the x3100, even if they're called something else.
     
  10. hypertrophy

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    The question is not the x3100 portion, it's why lenovo has the chipset listed as 960 when it is supposed to be listed as 965. I'm thinking typo.
     
  11. odin243

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    Ahh, I see. I guess it's natural since GMA numbers have always ended in 0, when the chipset ended in a 5.
     
  12. lifebytes

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    Gotta be a typo

    GMA X1300 is the GPU
    GM965 is the chipset
     
  13. crxtreme

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    Out of curiosity, does anyone have it say something else if they have the integrated?
     
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    So does the T61 have the GM965 or the PM965 chipset?
     
  15. odin243

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    If you get it with the x3100, it has the GM965. If you get it with dedicated graphics, it has the PM965.
     
  16. MChong

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    Whoops, I didn't update here; it is the GM965 with the X3100; must have been a typo on Lenovo's part.
     
  17. afig

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    I wonder if GMA960 is a degraded version of GMA965, just like GMA940 is a degraded version of GMA945.

    The GPU of GMA960 is 400MHz while the GPU of GMA965 is 500MHz???