For those who hate their Samsung LCDs

For those who are thinking about doing an RMA because they hate their Samsung LCD....It possible to buy a LG LCD from a third party like ScreenTek and replace the Samsung screen yourself?

The price of the screen is around $400 versus approx $200 for the restocking fee.

Is it hard to replace your LCD? Does it void your warranty?

 

Why (TF) would you do that ?


Thats just silly.



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Well, instead of returning and paying a restocking fee and then ordering another computer (if you really wanted a t61) and chance that you might get another Samsung screen. This would ensure you of a good screen (LG) as well as not having to wait for a new computer to be delivered.

 

You can always check which screen you got before opening the box.... so no restock.

The restocking fee is so not consumer pro .. i hate it.




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That makes no sense for the price of the screen and the laptop it will not even be worth it.

 

that's got to void your warranty.

I'm not sure if Lenovo do accidental warranty? - you could always stab a fork in it and hope for a LG replacement [just joking..]

 

Those screen should come with a label - "Stick a fork in me"




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Even the LG screen is nothing to write home about. If you don't like the Samsung, I doubt you'd like the LG either. You would have been better off getting something completely different if it's that important to you. Why not just try to get used to it!

These are business laptops we're talking about here - matte screen, narrow viewing angles, not that bright. Where I work everyone gets a plastic privacy shield on their laptops - then your viewing angle is close to zero! For those of us who just want to do work on the machines the screens are great.

 

Ari... your wrong... i tried the 14W WXGA+ samsung screen and its junk. Wouldn't put it on a 200$ laptop. I have the 15.4 WSXGA+ LG screen and its actally pretty good. (could be better though)



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If you're really worried about the screen then buy a Sony or Asus.

I do agree though, LG panels aren't anything to be writing home about. If you don't like either then you're gonna need to go with a glossy screen.

Be sure to complain to Samsung or LG since its their company manufacturing the screen, Lenovo pretty much gets whatever matte screens they give them. Be sure to mention TN panels since its that obsolete and cheap technology that they use to make screens with (compared to IPS that HDTV LCDs use and M-PVA panels).

Its a shame that consumers are even more clueless about LCD panel types then computers.

 

I have a LG screen and was finally able to fix it somewhat with a dev driver from laptopvideo2go.com... the stock lenovo driver had the color vibrance disabled and my display looked like nothing. Now it's a bit better, but still not even close to my 4 year Old Dell Inspiron 600m or any other "normal" laptops I've had. It seems this is a widespread issue. Take a look at the Dell forums and the response from the Dell admin: http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=insp_video&thread.id=167802

I also got this from Nvidia tech support: "The Lenovo T61P series notebooks uses a different type of LCD panel than previous T6xP models. The newer notebooks use a lower cost panel which do not reproduce colors as accurate as previous models. Generally, these panels tend to be on the cooler side as far as color temperature. If you know someone who has a hardware calibration device, you may want to try calibrating your display. The screen does appear dithered so you may have a defective LCD. We suggest trying an ICC profile created for your display and if this does not provide better colors, contact Lenovo for hardware support."

 

I have Samsung 15.4" WSXGA+
Very nice screen. The only complaint is that it has 4 bright pixels in the center (all joined as one big dot) and not sure what to do about it. F#cking lenovo ship new professional notebooks like that...

 

those are stuck pixel and fairly easy to fix...just take a ball point pen or stylus...and then put some napkins over the screen and press with the tip...u have to kind of peak over the napkin to make sure you are rubbing the right area...apply a good amount of presure...do this for around 30 seconds..it's gone!

many new laptops come with stuck pixels...now it's the dead ones one would be worried about b/c they can't be fixed

 

Yeah, because Lenovo can't, you know, spend the extra $$$ to buy some half decent LCDs. The blame lies with both the screen manufacturer and the computer manufacturer who decided to put the crappy screens in their notebooks.

 

Yeah I'm not too happy with the color reproduction on my LG. Pinks look purple, yellows look orange, even with a color calibrated profile, my grainy Asus z71 screen produced better colors. So much for using this as a web design laptop. Should have stuck with the MBP, even with the yellowing problem they've been having (I received 2 with it), the colors were much better. Ah well, I suppose I'll just use my external.

 

Alpha: yeah, I have an external and that's the only thing that keeps me from returning the notebook (plus I already loaded my files and settings and I need the machine to work). But really, Lenovo fails to both deliver and support (they say they keep your case open and will call you back, but never do).

 

I'm actually thinking about returning it and picking up a MBP again. Kind of a bummer because I'll have to foot a restocking fee, but I would really like a notebook I can design on without having to use an external. Kind of defeats the purpose of a laptop.

 

i heard the mpb's do not have any better screens..do a search and you will find a number of people complaining about it as well

 

Hmm - on LCD is almost impossible to design anything - cause you get only 24bit colors (instead of 32bit) - so you are loosing a lot of shades...
Macs have good brightness - but some of their screens are very bad in color reproduction (tones).
Just design something on LCD and check it out on CRT - you will see that your desing might look like sh1t (especially when gray color is not gray anymore and you are trying to match colors in different areas).

 

So which vendor has good screen these days? I see Dell customers complaining, Lenovo I'm one of them... all my previous notebooks (4) and desktops (2) for the last 8 years had just normal displays. They all looked the same, blue is blue and green is green. Here looking at the notebook makes me feel my eyesight is going nuts.

 

The color reproduction on the MBP was much better than the TP when I had it. My Asus has much better reproduction than the TP as well. When I look at the color spectrum below on the thinkpad, it looks like someone took paint and smeared the colors into each other. It's all crosshatched and not smooth whatsoever. My external is only 24bit as well (22" TN YAY!) and the colors are fine on that, so it's not that which is the issue. The spectrum is completely blended on the Asus and external.




Ill probably just keep on using the Asus and take the $300 hit on the TP. It's unfortunate, but such is life.

 

On my 15.4" Samsung WSXGA+ thinkpad spectrum looks good. Though from spectrum it is very hard to see the difference between 32 and 24 bit. Mostly that grain is from bad ICC profile.

 

My T61 is coming in the mail soon. Is the LG WSXGA+ screen really that bad?

This is really worrying me... The Thinkpad will be the first laptop I have bought, and I thought surely the display would be nice on a top of the line laptop.

I have been temporarily using an Acer 3680 with a glossy screen, and it is noticeably not as bright or nice as my Dad's old HP zv6000 screen, which to me looks really nice. It's going to be pretty dissapointing if the THinkpad looks worse than this Acer and my Dad's HP which is several years old...

I have never had any other LCD panels before so I'm not "used to" any particular type of LCD, but I hope it doesn't look like crap. I have always used CRT's in the past.

 

I got my thinkpad for a great price so I am not going to complain , but yhea the viewing angles are bad and so on, but not too bad, I have a docking station and just use the desktop monitor.

T61p during the sale was a great bargain almost fully loaded, you can get all the proc upgrades, all the hardrive upgrades and still be way cheaper than DELL or other companies, you can spend the difference in a docking station and an external monitor, depending on the monitor.