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    Flexview Ghosting

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by eskimochaos, Jul 2, 2007.

  1. eskimochaos

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    Looking to return current T60p Widescreen w/ Samsung screen for a T60p w/flexview. Will I notice ghosting in games/movies? Thanks... BTW this t60p has NMB keyboard which I already love so if I dont get the NMB board, ill be dissappointed!
     
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    I notice very mild trailing with a mouse pointer on a dark screen, but never anything watching movies on my 1400x1050 flexview display.
     
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    Do you think it is worth going from Samsung WS to Felxview? Is the improvement that drastic?
     
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    Certainly hope so. What I just did, just for this very reason.
     
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    The improved color and viewing angles are well worth the mild ghosting that you may never notice.
     
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    Is it bothersome or super noticable? Im worried about the hassle of a return and purchasing a new laptop.
     
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    Not bothersome at all. I tend to watch all my HD movies at night on my bed with my laptop, and I have never had any problems. The Flexview screen looks a heck of a lot nicer than my TV :)
     
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    The response times of S-IPS panels are usually in the vicinity of 16ms if not more. TN panels usually have response times of around 6ms. Well, technically you will notice some degree of ghosting when the on screen motion moves really fast. But your eyes will to adjust to it over time. As to how it will bother you, it varies from individual to individual.

    Anyways, that's the reason why S-IPS panels are mainly used for photo editing (static) and not for gaming (fast motion).
     
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    So after reading those threads to the end, is it worth it, is the sparkle problem affecting all LG Flexview screens? should this deter me in any way from purchasing a flexview?
     
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    Well, there is debate of whether there is or there isn't such thing as sparkle. And there exists the possibility that if indeed this sparkle phenomenon does exist, some people may perceive it more than others, and some people may not perceive it at all.

    In the end it all comes down to you, you have to make the call.
     
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    Any pictures of the phenomenon?
    We can talk here all day long about differences in everyone's perception and sensetivity.
    But I would like to see what's all the fuss about, at least on a picture.
     
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    More than likely, this sparkle phenomenon does not exist at an optical level, rather it exists at a neural level where our brain interprets what our eyes perceive optically. So I doubt any camera would be able to capture this sparkle phenomenon.
     
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    So it must be barely "detectable" then.
    Yet judging by the posts in the "sparkle" threads, the problem is very noticeable.

    BTW, here is what Dell says on its website (applicable to the Flexview?):

    WUXGA LCDs are the highest resolution panels available in the market today. These displays use an industry-standard process that applies a textured coating to the inside of the polarizer to reduce glare and improve light distribution. The WUXGA panel offers nearly twice as many pixels as a WXGA panel [1.3MPixels vs 2.4MPixels]. These pixels are much smaller and denser than on WXGA panels. The smaller size, higher density, and textured coating may cause the display to create a sparkling or blurry effect while using light-colored backgrounds or on a white background, such as word processing applications. This is typical of this technology and is needed to prevent glare and increase viewing angles.
     
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    The question is not a degree of "detectableness."

    If the sparkle effect is a physical phennomenon, then it can be captured by a camera.

    If however the sparkle effect really only exists at the neural level as a result of our brain's interpretation of what our eyes perceive being displayed on the LCD, then the sparkle effect cannot be captured by a camera.

    In either scenarios, some people maybe able to perceive this sparkle effect to a greater extent than others, while other people may not perceive this sparkle effect completely.
     
    furrycute, Jul 2, 2007
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