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    Drastically reduced performance despite SSD...

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by nikkisixx, May 25, 2010.

  1. nikkisixx

    nikkisixx Notebook Consultant

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    I ordered a T410S about a month back. I've seen a pretty rapid decline in performance since receiving it.

    Firefox opening in 10 seconds instead of 2... Windows starting up in 50 seconds rather than 30... Photoshop takes about 10 instead of 5 as well.

    I've installed the following programs - I'm pretty aware when it comes to viruses and spyware so it shouldn't be the issue. Can anyone suggest the root of these issues and/or offer possible solutions? This hasn't been the case with my previous laptops.

    1. Kaspersky
    2. Photoshop CS5
    3. Adobe Acrobat Pro Extended
    4. Microsoft Office Suite
    5. SPSS
    6. Stata
    7. Tuneup Utilities 2010 (I turned off Registry and Hard Drive Defrag, is Registry cleaner damaging to the SSD as well?)

    Thanks everyone.
     
  2. pstrisik

    pstrisik Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you have the same slow down if you disable Kaspersky? I used KIS for a couple of years and always struggled with its hit on performance. Others have not had issues. I finally left it and am finding much snappier response with Avast Free and the Windows 7 firewall (I may use Online Armor when the x64 version comes out of beta).

    Your slow downs sound more severe than is likely from KIS/KAV but it is worth a shot.

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  3. TinyRK

    TinyRK Notebook Evangelist

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    Which SSD is it?
    Not all of the support TRIM, which results in slower write- and read-times.
     
  4. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Eheheh...simple question. Do you have System restore enabled?

    If so, the slowing could be directly related to the allocation points set by restore as they significantly impair if not completely shut down TRIM.

    If you believe it is restore, it must be shut down completely and not just reduced because only after shutting it down does it eliminate the restore points and property designated for that purpose.

    Ide love to see a Crystal benchmark now and then one after if this be the case.
     
  5. nikkisixx

    nikkisixx Notebook Consultant

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    Disabled it and noticed a huge increase in speed, thanks. Thing is, it didn't really slow down my system the first two weeks I had it installed, and I really like its comprehensive protection.

    Intel 80GB G-2

    How do I completely shut down the System Restore Function?

    Thanks
     
  6. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Agreed Kaspersy sucks...

    2. Disable System Restore

    NOTE: Recent testing has discovered that System Restore allocates restore points within the SSD that do not work well with the SSD or TRIM. Typically, System Restore will degrade ssd performance significantly within a few weeks and makes it very difficult for TRIM to function. Disabling System Restore is not only recommended throughout the web, but also, Intel has lately also included this advise with respect to its ssds. Disabling System Restore will also return to you a fair amount of ssd storage space.

    Right click on My Computer and select Properties.
    Select System Protection.
    Select Configure.
    Select Turn Off System Restore.
     
  7. wilse

    wilse Notebook Evangelist

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    there's no reason to run kaspersky when microsoft security essentials is freely available
     
  8. realwarder

    realwarder Notebook Evangelist

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    I second this. Great performance, great price.
     
  9. nikkisixx

    nikkisixx Notebook Consultant

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    Ace. I thought it was automatically turned off but apparently it wasn't on the C drive.

    Is the damage done from System Restores these past 5 weeks permanent?
     
  10. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    NO... Thats why I suggested you run the tests. As soon as you shut down System restore (and reboot) your performance should return as the blocks dedicated to Restore and wiped and returned to available storage area.
     
  11. pstrisik

    pstrisik Notebook Evangelist

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    Can system restore be configured to save restore points on a second drive? Nikkisixx, you may not have two drives, but that will be my eventual config: SSD for windows and other programs that will fit, a magnetic HD in the bay for everything else.

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  12. nikkisixx

    nikkisixx Notebook Consultant

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    No worries, that will be my setup soon as well. I'm interested in the answer too.
     
  13. elixiash

    elixiash Notebook Consultant

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    Why not you install Intel SSD Toolbox too. It helps a lot in checking your SSD and running Trim manually.

    Here's the latest version: Intel Toolbox 1.30
     
  14. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    This is great info, thanks Les. My Intel SSD has been running great, but I have always had system restore disabled.
    I second the Intel SSD Toolbox. When running XP (I still haven't settled on one OS yet :p), I run it once per week and performance has been top notch.
     
  15. nikkisixx

    nikkisixx Notebook Consultant

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    Great advice, thanks


    Anyone have an answer to this yet?
     
  16. Les

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    Negative I am not aware of any way to do that sorry guys...
     
  17. Renee

    Renee Notebook Virtuoso

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    Disk defragmentation will also cause poor performance on an SSD.

    Renee
     
  18. elixiash

    elixiash Notebook Consultant

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    Yes you can. To manually config System Restore, go to Control Panel>System>Advanced System Settings>System Protection. From there, simply select the Drive that you wish to enable and click Configure. I also agree that Disk Defrag must be disabled for the SDD.
     
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