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    Does every y510p overheat?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by suavemike, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. suavemike

    suavemike Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've been looking at getting a y510p with the 755m sli. It's basically come down to either the y510p or a toshiba qosmio. My big question is does every single y510p overheat? I have done a ton of research on this laptop and all I see over and over again is people saying that you need a cooling pad and you have to repaste or undervolt your cpu. All of that makes absolutely no sense to me. Why would I ever undervolt my cpu? Thats like paying for a ferrari and then pulling some of the spark plugs so it can't perform well. Why wouldn't I just buy a smaller cpu? Also I don't understand how a company can stay in business if their laptops overheat after 15-30 min of use. Finally I don't understand buying a cooling pad. I want something PORTABLE. If I wanted to lug around even more stuff then why buy this laptop? Why not keep my desktop and lug all of that around. Seriously.... I just dont' get it.. .So I have convinced myself that MOST y510p's must run just fine without repasting thermal paste or cooling pads or undervolting. because if it takes all of that then this laptop is a disaster. BUT.... I'm hoping someone can back up what I am thinking before I spend my hard earned money on a clunker that I will have to return and then get something else.....
     
  2. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Jam a GPU inside an optical drive with rather poor ventilation, it's a recipe for overheating. On the bright side, Single-GPU editions of the laptop and Y410p's run a lot cooler, don't have microstutter and have respectable battery life (a user reported 6 hours on the y410p at 90% brightness doing low intensity tasks).
     
  3. zalbard

    zalbard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Inexpensive + slim = overheating.
    Expensive + bulky = good cooling.
    Very expensive + slim = decent cooling...

    Your laptop falls into the first category.
     
  4. Zero000

    Zero000 Notebook Deity

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    The IdeaPad line is known to be junk overall.

    BTW the y510p isn't like a Ferrari , it's more like a Kia with performance mods. What did you expect?
     
  5. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Inexpensive + Good Cooling = Loud
     
  6. suavemike

    suavemike Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't know why you would say it's junk when it has great ratings unless you are one of those elitist people that has to have a $2000 laptop in order for it not to be junk
     
  7. suavemike

    suavemike Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have no desire to purchase a 755m in a single configuration. Not enough power. 765m minimum but really I want a 770m but the only one i can afford is a qosmio 70x and i haven't heard alot of good things about that laptop although i had a qosmio a few years ago that i loved.
     
  8. Zero000

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    Many types of laptops over the years have become cheaper and cheaper and consequently the quality has dropped.

    Ideapads may look nice but they aren't quality machines. Of course they can be better optimized for gaming than a regular laptop but that doesn't mean they are reliable and well built.
     
  9. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Sadly elitism is something that is very prevalent on the internet and cannot be avoided.

    I just ignore people like these. If they get personal just flag their posts.

    Not everyone's made out of money, and not everyone wants to spend all of their hard-earned money on a laptop. I understand why premium laptops are better, but whether they are worth it is entirely up to you. On the other hand, you also have to realize that bang-for-buck is not always everything.
     
  10. Alasjaka

    Alasjaka Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've played many games so far on my y510p, and it hasn't over heat.
     
  11. suavemike

    suavemike Notebook Enthusiast

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    I went ahead and bought a y510p. Microcenter was selling it for $1099 with 16gb RAM, 8gb+1TB hybrid drive, 755m sli.

    So far I am VERY happy with my purchase. I've ran Tomb Raider on ULTRA settings for over an hour and my 1st GPU hits about 80c and my second hits 85c. That's without a cooling pad and without repasting. I ordered some mx-4 just in case I decide to repaste at some point but right now I am thrilled. This laptop is amazing and also I heard alot of complaints about the hard drive but mine boots very quickly. Maybe 20 seconds tops. Sorry but its not worth it to me to spend $300 on a SSD to save 13 seconds on boot ups.

    So for all of the people out there looking for this laptop and seeing all of the negativity, its not always true. I'm sure there are some bad laptops out there that maybe didn't get enough thermal paste or something but there are some great models too. And for a $1100 laptop to perform as good and in some cases better than a $2000 laptop, that's pretty awesome!!!!
     
  12. cycro27

    cycro27 Notebook Guru

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    Remember an SSD doesn't just save boot up times, it also saves time when opening applications, transferring files etc. But, what you're saying is absolutely true, it seems hit and miss with this laptop, some people get models that are amazing, while others get ones that over heat very easily.
     
  13. suavemike

    suavemike Notebook Enthusiast

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    And the honeymoon is over.... :-(

    I played more tomb raider and my 1st GPU hit 87c and my 2nd GPU hit 96c. I let it cool down for a little while and after 15 minutes it was back up to the same temps. This is on a desk in my basement. Thanks to another polar vortex hitting here in Michigan, my basement was a balmy 65f at the time. So I was pretty annoyed with this performance. The laptop headed back to Microcenter last night and the purchase went into newegg for a Cyberpower Fangbook x7 150. It is essentially a GT70 rebranded. In comparison to this Y510P.

    Same amount of RAM (16GB)

    Same CPU but the Y510P throttles it's CPU when the GPU is under load so I expect better performance with the fangbook

    8gb+1TB hybrid drive on the Y510p vs 750gb 7200 RPM drive on the fangbook (but the fangbook has another drive bay so I plan on installing an SSD that I currently have)

    15.3in 1080p screen on the Y510p vs 17.3in 1080p on the fangbook. Obviously the fangbook is a massive brick of a machine that looks like a damn transformer but I will just have to deal with lugging this massive thing around.

    755m sli on the Y510P vs 770m on the fangbook (the 755m sli edges out the 770m in many different benchmarks and games BUT it also overheats the damn thing. And its not a massive difference in performance. Plus SLI doesn't always get along with every game. So I think in the long run I will be happier

    Finally $1179 vs $1199 on the fangbook.

    I'm hoping overall I will be happier with the fangbook. My only other option is the toshiba x70 but I have heard so many better things about the MSI GT70 that I think this will be the better choice for me.
     
  14. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Sorry to hear about your experience with the Y510p but unfortunately it is a common one. If I were in the market for a budget gaming notebook at this time I would not have considered the Y510p with its well-documented history of problems, but thankfully I got my Y500 (a cooler and less throttling machine which performs just as well with a little OC) around this time last year. Sounds like you did the right thing by returning the Y510p. GLHF with the new Fangbook. :)
     
  15. lavium

    lavium Newbie

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    I see a lot of people having problems with the Y510P and overheating. I am considering buying the Y510P but only the single 755M version. I understand it won't have a ton of power and I won't be able to play Tomb Raider on Ultra/High, but that's fine. I'm mostly looking for a nice laptop that can play most games on medium, but if this turns into a space heater with a single GPU then it's no good.

    Does anyone know if the same heating issues apply with single GPU versions?
     
  16. kyo86sg

    kyo86sg Notebook Consultant

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    My guess is yes, the reason is the use of a SINGLE heatsink for both the processor and Graphics card and a SINGLE fan trying to cool both down, Repasting is not ideal as you got to dissemble the entire chassis to have access to the heatsinks. I got the Y510P SLI version last week and my temps are hovering 65-70 degrees on idle and goes to 90-105 when gaming.

    Its like living on the edge, where the laptop could shutdown anything and killing the components of the mainboard very quickly.
     
  17. lavium

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    Have you tried disabling the SLI (or removing the ultrabay) to check if your temps are that bad? 90-105 when gaming is just not ok. And 65-70 when web browsing would be awful enough. I'd like something cool when I'm not gaming, and something reasonable when gaming. Maybe laptops just aren't there yet.
     
  18. octiceps

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    GPU throttling temperature is 97C and CPU thermal shutdown temperature is 100C. Not sure how you're even able to use the notebook at all with those temperatures...

    They are there already, just not this one. For example ASUS and Alienware gaming notebooks with great cooling systems have been around for years.
     
  19. lavium

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    So what would you recommend then? From what I've read a lot of the overheating problems are from the SLI people. It's hard to find a thin, light 15.6" notebook with some gaming capabilities for <$1000. If there's one that's not a total brick with a great cooling system then that'd be fantastic.