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    Disable 'Allow files on this drive to be indexed'

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MDDZ, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. MDDZ

    MDDZ Notebook Deity

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    I have a SSD and a new T510. The system is working. I read somewhere on the internet about optimization the use of SSD. One of the optimization thing is:

    Disable 'Allow files on this drive to be indexed'

    When I did this on the SSD drive (C drive), I have two options

    Apply changes to drive C:\ only

    Apply changes to drive C:\, subfolders and files.

    Which one should I select?

    Thanks for your help!

    Regards.
     
  2. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    To drive C:, subfolders and files. Otherwise, the indexing will the disabled only in the root C:\ folder.
     
  3. MDDZ

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    Thanks so much for the info.

    Best.
     
  4. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    Cheers, np. Btw, it will ask you something about permissions. I just pressed "Ignore All". I never noticed any negative impact of that. :)
     
  5. zhaos

    zhaos Notebook Consultant

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    I am wondering why such a thing is recommended. I think search indexing is very useful. Whenever I need a file, i press the windows key, and start typing the name of the file, and it pops up in the start menu. For me, it's much faster than looking for the folder the file is in. I would hate to disable that if I bought an SSD.
     
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    Well, the manual search on the SSD is really fast even without indexing. Besides, I used it almost never.

    The other kind of search, Windows Search that just goes through the Start Menu (and probably few more folders) is what I use generally and that works as good as before.
     
  7. flipfire

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    I usually just disable the Windows Indexing Service.

    Even without indexing, searching is quite fast on a SSD.
     
  8. dlai

    dlai Notebook Consultant

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    One needs to think differently with a SSD. Because access time on a ssd is instantaneous, indexing is not needed. On a ssd, it does nothing but increase the number of writes to the ssd, which reduces the life cycle. That's why it's better to disable it.
     
  9. fem

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    and what about prefetching/superfetching on an SSD?
     
  10. MidnightSun

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    Microsoft recommends that you leave it on for optimal performance.

    I have search indexing enabled on my X25-M, since I use it it quite often to search tons of files for specific words. Seeing as it won't need to reindex what hasn't changed, I figure there'll be minimal impact on my SSD's life.
     
  11. Renee

    Renee Notebook Virtuoso

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    "One needs to think differently with a SSD. Because access time on a ssd is instantaneous, indexing is not needed. On a ssd, it does nothing but increase the number of writes to the ssd, which reduces the life cycle. That's why it's better to disable it."

    No. The search time involves no movement but it is much faster but not instantaneous. Indexing does not increase the number of writes to a location. Impact will be as Midnight Sun says-minimal.
     
  12. dlai

    dlai Notebook Consultant

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    Just going by what was posted in the OCZ forum on how they suggested setting up a ssd in Win7:

    Guide * Windows 7 Ultimate Tweaks & Utilities *

    To each his own I say.
     
  13. MidnightSun

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    But those are posted in the OCZ forum by an end user, and don't represent what OCZ recommends. In all honesty, I'd say those tweaks are either A) automatically done by Windows, B) are unnecessary/have no basis in actual evidence, or C) are not all that great ideas (ie, disabling System Restore). I generally say that unless you know exactly what you're doing and how it'll impact your hardware and usage, you should probably trust the Windows/manufacturer default and avoid mucking around in settings.

    As you said, to each his own.
     
  14. dlai

    dlai Notebook Consultant

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    Mucking around? All of the stuff in the OCZ thread has also been posted on our forum here as well:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...g-ssd-tips-tricks-benchmarks.html#post6127614

    So what if it's on an OCZ forum, they can be applied to all ssd's. It's all worked fine for me and others here as well, including disabling system restore. You might want to read the post by Les with his reasoning that in many if not all cases, having system restore enabled severely restricts if not eliminates the functionality of TRIM.

    Here is an article by Les regarding disabling system restore:

    http://thessdreview.com/optimization-guides/system-restore-and-your-ssd/

    Of note is the recommendation by Intel about their SSD's, which you are currently using.

    Even the highly recommended tool SSD Tweak has disable system restore as a default:

    http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4926-ssd-tweaker.html
     
  15. MidnightSun

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    My point was not so much where it's posted, bur rather that such settings changes are not official and OEM-recommended. As you should well know, not everything posted on NBR is 100% fact that you should blindly follow.

    Yes, I actually have read Les' article, although I had not read the Intel Readme note, so thank you for the link.

    I would prefer, and personally would recommend, however, suffering a minor performance impact for the security that System Restore provides (although it's not perfect by any means). In any case, I run Intel's performance optimizer tool every 2-3 weeks while I have lunch or dinner, and have never noticed it taking an extraordinary amount of time to run.

    Whether or not a tweaker is highly recommended or not is again beside my point. CCleaner has many tweaks in it that I would never recommend, although it is a highly-recommended tool that I, too, use.

    My point was that because Windows 7 was designed with SSDs in mind, it is entirely fine to stick with the default settings that automatically go into effect when an SSD is installed (ie, automatic defragmentation is disabled), and that fiddling with other settings is largely unnecessary (and sometimes may have negative impacts). As I said before, if you know exactly what you're doing and the exact hardware implications your changes will have, feel free to tweak settings. But if you don't, it's probably best you leave them alone.
     
  16. MDDZ

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    I am not quite sure it is right. If I need to search for something, that thing usually should not be on the SSD, my OS drive. I have a dedicated 500GB drive for data.

    Regards.

    >>As I said before, if you know exactly what you're doing and the exact hardware implications your changes will have, feel free to tweak settings. But if you don't, it's probably best you leave them alone.

    A perfect point!