Difference between T60 2007/1951/2623?

1) I see there are different part numbers for machines that look identical in specs...is there a chipset difference? Motherboard? Something which is not removable ect?

Some T60 2007xxx models are more pricey than 2623xxx even with inferior components. Bare in mind, we cannot configure our own here in Canada. When I asked sales rep. why that is, he said in Canada, a different sales strategy is being used.

2) As well, can anyone tell me how good Lenovo sale prices get around Christmas or Boxing day (here in Canada specifically)?

3) Might as well keep this all in one thread. Which machine of these two would you recommend purchasing, assuming Vista will eventually be placed on the machines (I would want ALL features of Vista to work), very little games/graphic intesive programs to used?:

There is a $500 jump from i) to ii) & iii). Something tells me, it may not be worth it...I also ask you, granted the price jump is taken, which of ii) or iii) is the better buy baring in mind the future?

i)
Intel® Core Duo processor T2400 - 1830MHz Genuine Windows XP Professional RAM: 512MB HD: 80GB DVD Recordable 24X Max

Detail: Operating System: Genuine Windows XP Professional Screen: 14.1 SXGA+ TFT 1400x1050 Onboard Graphic Chipset: ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 Onboard Audio: Intel High Definition Audio Included Modem: 56Kbps data/14.4Kbps fax Hard Drive Controller: Serial ATA Battery Type: 6 Cell Lithium-Ion PCMCIA Support: 1 Type I/II and 1 ExpressCard/54 or 34 External Speakers: 2 (Internal Speaker) Warranty: Three years parts and labor (system battery: one year) 3 Year Depot

ii) 2007GCU
Intel® Core 2 Duo T7200 - 2000MHz Genuine Windows XP Professional RAM:1024MB HD: 80GB CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG

Detail: Operating System: Genuine Windows XP Professional Screen: 14.1 SXGA+ TFT 1400x1050 Onboard Graphic Chipset: ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 Onboard Audio: Intel High Definition Audio Included Modem: 56Kbps data/14.4Kbps fax Hard Drive Controller: Serial ATA Onboard Network Contoller: Gigabit Ethernet- Integrated 1000Mbps,100Mbps,10M Battery Type: 6 Cell Lithium-Ion PCMCIA Support: 1 Type I/II and 1 ExpressCard/54 or 34 External Speakers: 2 (Internal Speakers) Warranty: Three years parts and labor (system battery: one year) Wireless:Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG

iii)200762U
Intel® Core processor Duo T2500 - 2000MHz Genuine Windows XP Professional RAM: 1024MB HD:100GB DVD Recordable 24X Max
Bluetooth Wireless (1-05), Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (Mini-PCIe), ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi Wireless (07-05), ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi Wireless(Mini-PCIe), ThinkPad 11b/g Wi-Fi wireless (Mini-PCIe) (I don't require all the wireless technology present in this machine, but it's there by default)

Detail: Operating System: Genuine Windows XP Professional Screen: 14.1 SXGA+ TFT 1400x1050 Onboard Graphic Chipset: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 HyperMemory Onboard Audio: Intel High Definition Audio Included Modem: 56Kbps data/14.4Kbps fax Hard Drive Controller: Serial ATA Onboard Network Contoller: Gigabit Ethernet- Integrated 1000Mbps,100Mbps,10M Battery Type: 6 Cell Lithium-Ion PCMCIA Support: 1 Type I/II and 1 ExpressCard/54 or 34 External Speakers: 2 (Internal Speakers) Warranty: Three years parts and labor (system battery: one year) 3 Year Depot Wireless:Bluetooth Wireless (1-05), Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (Mini-PCIe), ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi Wireless (07-05), ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi Wireless(Mini-PCIe), ThinkPad 11b/g Wi-Fi wireless (Mini-PCIe)

Note the differences in RAM, Processor, and Video Card. (Any of the HD amounts is sufficient).

What i'm thinking is it would nice to have Duo 2 Core, for the future, and would also be nice to have X1400 video card. RAM of 1024MB would eventually be liked. (Can upgrade in the first option).

To have both a Core 2 Duo and the X1400, is another $400 leap from options ii) and iii). < I'm thinking that price is bound to go down.

A DVD burner is nice, but I see the price of external ones are dropping, and one can be had for under $100, so it isn't a must in the laptop.

I know this thread is long, but your input is much appreciated.

 

As far as the parts go they are identical. Only difference is how they are sold. The 2007 I believe is sold through educational channels..ie colleges and universities. 1951 is entry level. 2623 is considered top seller.. pretty much pre configured a certain way and ready to go targeting small and mid sized businesses.

 

2007 isn't just educational, it's also Large Enterprise, or anybody who has enough gumption to call Lenovo for themselves. 2007-7ju is what the OP should get. And the price on it is not too bad through that visaperks.ca website $2300 Canadian. To get to it go to the 10th page on the view all T models list.

 

The OP? Police department?

 

Original Poster.

 

Yes I have seen that one, actually further down and the 14" model is listed. That one is ~$1000 more than the i), the first machine mensioned. Ideally, that would be the machine I would probably purchase, but I can't yet justify the price jump for the components included. Plus, I want to be sure that heat won't be an issue because of the upgraded video card and C2D processor.

 

What is the 'combo' DVD drive? I am assuming it can burn CDs but only Read DVDs, correct me if i'm wrong.

 

I can let you know on the heat issue when mine gets here on Wednesday.

And yeah it can't burn DVD's. The thing is this though, everything can be upgraded easily in the future except video card, screen, and cpu, so I say put the money you have in the screen and CPU departments. Maybe this means getting only 1gb ram instead of 2gb, or a 5400rpm hard drive instead of a 7200, or no DVD burner, but ram, hdd, and cd player (especially cd player in a thinkpad) can all be easily upgraded at some future date.

 

Good point. The CPU and video card are of my greatest concern. But to have a Core 2 Duo with the X1400 (the ideal video card in this case), takes me to only the one option, that listed on page you mensioned. So I have to ask myself, would I rather have a Core 2 Duo, and give up the X1400 (go with X1300), as well as a DVD burner (but like you said - can be upgraded later) OR should I go for a Core Duo with the X1400 and gain a DVD burner and 20GB of HDD space (which, like you said, aren't a big deal right now).

The tradeoff is between the processor and video card (both machines have same screen).

Option 3: If you answered the Core Duo above, and feel video card is not a very big deal, should I keep ~$500 in my pocket, and go with option i) from original post?

 

I just realized something: are you looking at 14" screen? The one I mentioned is 15" flexview...which would be a big difference.

 

Yes, the 14" model is the one I am interested in.

 

i dunno but from what u wrote, I'd say punt the C2D and get the 200762U for $1499. YGM

Use the $500-$1000 saved towards your next machine.
A brand new C2D thinkpad will cost about $1000 later next year. Use the savings from this to upgrade for free later. Buying new leading edge with the notion of "future proofing" is folly. The rule of thumb is to buy 1-2 generations old, then use the savings to upgrade later.

 

That model is $1999 in Canada. But a C2D machine (with inferior graphics) is $25 less.

Perhaps I should go with neither the C2D or the higher end graphics, perhaps that is what you meant. THAT would be under $1500 CAD but with only 512 MB of RAM.