Did you get jipp`d out of your UWB (T61p)? Now what?

Have any of you called Lenovo to complain? Are they going to send the parts to you when they become available? Can you install it yourself? Are they offering a discount or credit in lieu of that feature/technology or because they couldn't deliver the goods? Don't just take their BS...Get something back.

 

I plan to contact Lenovo and complain. I have my original quote that included UWB. Was forced to cancel my order because it was screwed up in there system and reorder the "same system". All order where done over the phone. If I make any progress I will post the outcome.

My laptop was delivered today. Most likely not going to have time to ***** until next week.

 

mine delivered today with all parts wusb and UWB

 

Sweet. I have confirmed UWB installed on (2) T61p so far.

I called Lenovo today, and they told me to wait and order in 2-3 MONTHS if I wanted this feature....a bunch of BS from the toll both operators in Customer Service.

Anyone else? They announced ALL T61p's to come with UWB...lets compare notes to get you something in return.

 

what is UWB?

 

Similar to Bluetooth...except BT=3 MBps compared to UWB= 100Mbps

Think of the Classic "USB vs Firefire" competing technologies... UWB = Ultra Wide Band

see:
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9741017-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

 

Very cool.

 

My order from 7/26 shipped 8/10 with USB/WUSB, arrived today. Iz all good.

 

Got yours from another thread, your the other one. I think you and Brusso99 might have the only 2 UWB configured lappy's in the country!

 

Because you know so many people have UWB devices, it's a shame that you didn't get it.

/sarcsm

You guys act like UWB is a must have feature and they're ripping you off.

 

does UWB come on the t61p 14"? never saw the config option, but a shaded box showed up when config'ing the 15" t61p

Thought the UWB is just a given on all the Ps?

 

/dripping

actually, I think UWB is something I paid for in my purchase price, and they ARE ripping me off by not sending me WWAN either. That said, WWAN doesn't work with ITM, so I figure they owe me UWB.

 

wisdom, you lucky gun.
i ordered 7/25 and my ESD is still 8/27. original order included UWB/WUSB.

 

mine has it too but as xnviews said its not a must have feature

 

you guys can have my wusb and uwb parts after i smash this thing over the extremly high pitch hd drive sound that will absolutly drive you crazy. its just about the worst thing i have had to deal with and its just about to make me consider this laptop unusable in quite places... ugh!!!

 

If it's advertised and included in the price, yes they are being ripped off regardless of how useful it is or isn't.

 

I must have missed something. Did Lenovo start sending non-UWB laptops to people whose order stated UWB?

All I see is
1) large delay for most people who ordered their notebook with UWB
2) some had to cancel their order from a glitch and reordered when the UWB option was not there

It's a pointless technology for most in its current form - so I wouldn't be worried about it...but if Lenovo is sending laptops w/o wusb when their order said it would include it - this is something to worry about.

 

Received my T61 with UWB or Wireless USB.
Ordered 07/20/2007
ESD 08/22/2007
Delivered 08/14/2007

 

What size T61?

 

Its a pointless technology? The ability to communicate without wires at a rate of 100 Mbps verses the current 3 Mbps ? I wonder how many other products/technologies would have been snuffed out if more shared your overly simplistic views? Why did we need USB when we had Firewire?? Any time you have competing technologies, we all usually win in the end from the resulting innovations.

If you've paid for it, why don't you have it?

 

If you paid for it, then yes you definitely should recieve it with the laptop. I bought my laptop knowing I didnt pay for it...I didnt see it in the overview nor as a customizable option. http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-67709

Current it IS pointless. How many bluetooth devices do you use? I use 0. In the future when UWB docking stations become standard, and that 100Mbps is increased to 480Mbps+ like we are expecting - then hell yes this is a necessity. Right now, 100Mbps is a JOKE for connecting devices.

I've heard alot of people talk about how they are so excited about Wireless USB - this being the main reason they want this. As you pointed out - this runs at 100 Mbps. This is a BLUETOOTH upgrade...NOT USB.

USB2.0 (480Mbps) still blows WUSB(100Mbps) out of the water and is the main reason I wouldn't connect a single damned USB device up to it.

How does the ease of not having to connect a single cable overcome the fact it will take more than 4 times as long to transfer something?

 

Hmm - this is only 100Mbps now? I read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_USB as saying it's 480Mbps at 3 meters, and 110 Mbps out to 10. 110Mbps is still blazing fast 30 feet from your desk. Get bluetooth to do that! Hah! I use 3 bluetooth devices every day - a mouse, a cell phone, and a headset. If my external HDD was bluetooth - I'd consistently be using it. Unfortunately it isn't. You have to read before you leap, friend. I thought the same thing - until wiki educated me

 

Stand corrected! Read the 10 meter part.

 

Nod. I was complaining about having to wait for WUSB too, until I realized it *was* 480Mbps at shorter distances. That kicks ass though. 480 should be plenty.

 

So, those who order 15.4" T61p's are not able to get WUSB? Has Lenovo explained anything?

 

Right now, yes.

I wouldnt write off the possibility of putting it in later. There IS a part number for the WUSB in the hardware maintenance manual - thought I am unsure if the module is soldered in or not.

interestingly there is also an error code that refers to: "Unauthorized Wireless USB card is plugged in - Power off and remove the Wireless USB card." Not sure what this means exactly..do these adapters have to be authorized?

 

Sorta. I believe it's like the miniPCI wifi cards. They have to be explicitly whitelisted or they won't work. I can get more info from a friend who was doing some hacking to get his to work.

 

Does anybody know why the stopped selling it? Is it a supply issue or?

 

That would be awesome.

Where do they get whitelisted? Is it a bios type function/setting?

Where did he grab his module from?

 

I sent an email on Monday, I received this response the am to my inquiry about whether or not my T61 was actually configured w/ UWB:

Dear XXXXXX,

Thank you for contacting Lenovo, the makers of ThinkPad and ThinkCentre
products!

In regards to your Lenovo Order xxxxx, their is no Wireless USB on this order. If you would like to make the change please advise, however this will delay your order.

If you have further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us at
1-866-42-THINK (84465) option number 2,

We will be happy to assist at that time.
Once again thank you for contacting Lenovo.

***Please reply to this e-mail for further assistance.***

Sincerely,

Lenovo Websales Team
www.lenovo.com/think/us
__________________________________________________________

I have since sent another email inquiring about the timing of delay, and whether I could buy the parts, have them shipped and install myself-

I 'll keep you guys posted.

T61 w/ 15.4" w/NVidia NVS 140
re-ordered 8/12 ESD 8/31

 

the uwb only for vista?

 

I believe it will work on any USB 1.0 & 2.0 compatable system.

 

I ordered 7/11, and mine has Wireless USB (as specified in Thinkvantage Access Connections). If I have Wireless USB, do I automatically have UWB?

 

They are the same thing.

 

Well, I see a few of you guys have been trying to be as clever as me =)
Today I ordered 1/20 UWB cards from Pennsylvania. We'll now have to see if the antenna, and the soldered wire connecting the antenna to the UWB card come all together. If they do, that'd be great. If not, I kind of wonder if the chip will work like that, or if you just need to do something else to hack it to make it work.

If Lenovo can hack their systems to accept the UWB, then we can find a way to do it too. I AM concerned about finding a way to get the antenna into the lcd bezel though...

 

Actually, it is certified as wireless USB.
Pictures were taken from T61p 15.4"


See picture from www.mobile01.com

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=240&t=379897
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=240&t=379897&p=2#3382171
Ultra-Wideband card

 

So it looks like we are looking for:
42T0885 WUSB Adapter
93P4520 UWB antenna assembly

We could probably buy these easily through a lenovo certified service shop or something: http://d03bphrb.partner.boulder.ibm....nsf/PublicSPPartnerSearch?OpenFrameset&NL=en

Anyone have pictures of a partially dismantled LCD bezel/area etc that shows where the antenna is wired? Also some innard pics of a thinkpad w/o the UWB?

 

http://www.tpuser.idv.tw/articles/santarosa-test-2.html



you can you google translate.....

 

Awesome, thank you.

 

You can order an after market Wireless USB card given your laptop actually came with the UWB antenna.

 

Does it come pre-wired though? That is what I'm wondering.

 

On some parts lists, i remember reading NO UWB as a part, that probably means you dont have the antenna. Looks like Lenovo is screwing us over and leaving us no option for upgrades.

 

I have no issue taking apart the LCD to wire it myself if I have to.

I'm not sure if there is a more thorough parts list somewhere else...but my status page shows:

42V8192 SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7700
42V8012 VBB MS WIN VISTA HOME BASIC
42V8568 SBB MS WINVISTA HM BS32 US ENG
42V8288 SBB 15.4 WUXGA TFT
42X0819 SBB NVIDIAQUAD FX 570M W/WWAN
41W2060 VBB 1GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 1DIMM
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
42V8297 SBB UN(TRCKP TOUCHPAD)FINGERRE
42V8167 SBB 160GB HDD,5400RPM+DISKENC
42V8193 SBB INTEL TURBO MEMORY 1GB
42V8172 SBB DVD REC.8XMAXDUAL LAY UB-S
42X0806 VBB PC CARDSLOT SM CARDSLOT
42V8177 SBB INT.WIRE.WIFI/LINK4965AGN
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
39T6651 SBB 9 CELL LI-ION BATTERY
39T6442 SBB COUNTRY PACK NORTH AMERICA
42X1524 SBB LP-US ENGLISH

obviously lacking that NO UWB part (though I know what you are referring to). We have the part numbers for both the wiring cables I guess it is, and the module itself. I am lacking the cable part number so this may point to no pre-wiring in itself. I wonder why some people's specifically say no uwb.

That would be odd if they pre-wired some and not others..

 

6459CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM
ESD: 07/30/07
6459CTO CTO THINKPAD T61 WIDESCREEN-3Y
42V8190 SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7300
42V8011 VBB MS WIN VISTA HOME PREMIUM
42X1954 SBB MSWVISHMPRM64 US ENGLISH
42V8287 SBB 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT
42X0818 SBB NVIDIAQUAD NVS 140MW/WWAN
41W2059 VBB 1GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 2DIMM
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
42V8297 SBB UN(TRCKP TOUCHPAD)FINGERRE
42V8164 SBB 80GB HDD,5400RPM
42V8172 SBB DVD REC.8XMAXDUAL LAY UB-S
42X0805 SBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARDSLOT
41W1501 SBB INTELPRO/WL3945ABGUSCNLAAP
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
42V8187 SBB THINKPAD WIRELESS USB ADPT
41W1508 SBB 6 CELL LI-ION BATTERY
39T6442 SBB COUNTRY PACK NORTH AMERICA
27R1769 SBB PSTN CABLE
42X1524 SBB LP-US ENGLISH
42V8063 SBB MS WAU ENGLISH NA-U MODELS
42X1233 SBB NEWINTELLAB_DUALCORE/CEDUO
42X1455 SBB GEO LBL US,WLAN,BLT, UWB
42V9665 SBB FCC, LABEL
42X1482 SBB BLUETOOTH W/ ANTENNA
42X1483 SBB BLUETOOTH SCREW
42V8635 SBB 15WSXGAW/BTW/OWWANW/UWB
39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED MODEM
42X0843 SBB CL.PLATE T61 WLAN WPAN
41W2300 SBB LOGO PLATE
42V8607 SBB INT.WLAN ANTENNA 15.4"
42X0877 SBB MT 6459 SYSTEM LABEL
42X0850 SBB MECH MISC PARTS
42V7972 SBB MS LABEL (VISTA PREMIUM)
42X0995 SBB PC CARD SLOT EXP.CARD SLOT
42V8612 SBB ST LCD COVER/BEZEL 15.4"
42V8600 SBB UWB ANTENNA
42X0840 SBB NVIDOANVS140M W/WWAN,W/AMT
42V8299 SBB 512MBPC2-5300 DDR2 667MHZ
42T6638 SBB PACK. US, 15.4"

This is what I ordered back in 7/11, you can see the parts list is much conprehensive. Check out the parts I bolded.

 

I'm assuming 15WSXGAW/BTW/OWWANW/UWB is the installation code for the wiring only...not an actual part.

This leaves just the antenna and the module part codes to find elsewhere.

This list is extremely comprehensive. Is this from your status page or some other location? Mine is like half that size - and ignores all the service items.

 

This was my order status page from 7/11. They changed it somewhere at the end of July.

Antenna and module codes are there too...

42V8600 SBB UWB ANTENNA
42V8187 SBB THINKPAD WIRELESS USB ADPT

 

Did you email the parts list to yourself from the status page? check text & detailed info..

 

Just did that. It is essentially the same 'short' list with the exception of the addition of the warranty as the last item. Still quite different from the long list others have.

 

When I look at the status page it looks like this:


1 6459CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM
08/31/07 $1,277.20 $1,277.20
42V8190 SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7300
46P4166 VBB MICROSOFT WINXP PROFESSION
42V8376 SBB MS WIN XP PROF.US ENG.
42V8287 SBB 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT
42X0818 SBB NVIDIAQUAD NVS 140MW/WWAN
41W2060 VBB 1GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 1DIMM
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
42V8297 SBB UN(TRCKP TOUCHPAD)FINGERRE
42V8169 SBB 100GB HDD,7200RPM
42V8172 SBB DVD REC.8XMAXDUAL LAY UB-S
42X0805 VBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARDSLOT
42V8177 SBB INT.WIRE.WIFI/LINK4965AGN
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
41W1508 SBB 6 CELL LI-ION BATTERY
39T6442 SBB COUNTRY PACK NORTH AMERICA
42X1487 SBB LP US ENGLISH

When I go to Email/Print quote "button", click :

Method= Email
Format= Standard & Text Only
Next 3 : NO/NO/NO
Extended Product Info: YES

I get this emailed description:

____________________________________________________________
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION QTY PRICE/EA TOTAL
=================================================================================
SYS.6459CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM 1 $1,277.20 $1,277.20
6459CTO CTO THINKPAD T61 WIDESC 1 $1,277.20
42V8190 SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO 1 $0.00
46P4166 VBB MICROSOFT WINXP PRO 1 $0.00
42V8376 SBB MS WIN XP PROF.US E 1 $0.00
42V8287 SBB 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT 1 $0.00
42X0818 SBB NVIDIAQUAD NVS 140M 1 $0.00
41W2060 VBB 1GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 1 $0.00
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH 1 $0.00
42V8297 SBB UN(TRCKP TOUCHPAD)F 1 $0.00
42V8169 SBB 100GB HDD,7200RPM 1 $0.00
42V8172 SBB DVD REC.8XMAXDUAL L 1 $0.00
42X0805 VBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARD 1 $0.00
42V8177 SBB INT.WIRE.WIFI/LINK4 1 $0.00
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PA 1 $0.00
41W1508 SBB 6 CELL LI-ION BATTE 1 $0.00
39T6442 SBB COUNTRY PACK NORTH 1 $0.00
27R1769 SBB PSTN CABLE 1 $0.00
42X1487 SBB LP US ENGLISH 1 $0.00
42X1232 SBB NEWINTELLAB_DUALCOR 1 $0.00
42V9665 SBB FCC, LABEL 1 $0.00
42X1482 SBB BLUETOOTH W/ ANTENN 1 $0.00
42X1483 SBB BLUETOOTH SCREW 1 $0.00
42V8631 SBB 15WSXGAW/BTW/OWWANW 1 $0.00
39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED M 1 $0.00
42V8654 SBB CL.PLATE T61WLAN BL 1 $0.00
41W1749 SBB GEO LABEL US WLAN B 1 $0.00
41W2300 SBB LOGO PLATE 1 $0.00
42V8607 SBB INT.WLAN ANTENNA 15 1 $0.00
42V8229 SBB MS LABEL (XP) 1 $0.00
42X0877 SBB MT 6459 SYSTEM LABE 1 $0.00
42X0850 SBB MECH MISC PARTS 1 $0.00
42V8601 SBB NO UWB ANTENNA 1 $0.00
42V8239 SBB ODD SW DVD REC 1 $0.00
42X0995 SBB PC CARD SLOT EXP.CA 1 $0.00
42V8612 SBB ST LCD COVER/BEZEL 1 $0.00
42X0840 SBB NVIDOANVS140M W/WWA 1 $0.00
42V8300 SBB 1GB PC2-5300 DDR2 6 1 $0.00
42T6638 SBB PACK. US, 15.4" 1 $0.00


-------------------------------------
Subtotal Without Shipping & Handling $1,277.20
Total after Miscellaneous $1,277.20
Shipping via UPS Ground + $0.00
Sales Tax + $98.99
-------------------------------------
Grand Total + $1,376.19

 

We need someone to find the part number on the UWB Antenna. Not even Lenovo tech support knows what part I'm talking about, neither does their parts department. They all think it's a wifi card/antenna i'm looking for.