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    Dell M4300 vs. T61P

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by lskeys, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. lskeys

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    Both are workstation notebooks. And I know this is a Lenovo forum, but do anyone know how the two different laptops compare? Also, are there any laptops that you thinks is comparable or better than the T61P :radar:
     
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    The Dell M4300 is almost the same as the Latitude D830 and you can assume how they compare since that is an often discussed topic. The thing about the M4300 is that its video card - FX 360M (8400M GS) is much weaker than the FX 570M (8600M GS) found in the T61p.

    The real competitor of the ThinkPad T61p is the HP Compaq 8510w.
     
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    I thought the 570M was equivalent to the 8600M GT?
     
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    Nope, the FX 1600M is based on the 8600M GT.
     
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    Hmm. According to Wikipedia (yeah I know), The 570M, 8600M GS and 8600M GT have the same memory bandwidth of up to 22.4GB/s.

    However, the 1600M is 25.6GB/s, which matches the specs of the 8700M GT (an overclocked 8600M GT).

    It also seems to suggest that the 570M is based on the G84 (8600GT) chipset.

    Nvidia's site doesn't seem to be very helpful. Can you point to something that backs it up? The cores for the 8600M GS and GT are different, and it would actually make a big difference in shader performance and texture fillrate.
     
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    Well, I'm not sure any more, so you might be right. I just find hard to believe that they would put a 8600 GT in a ThinkPad... it would be great though.

    As for the 1600M, when this card was announced the 8700M wasn't out...not that is an evidence or something, otherwise, it's more logical yes.
     
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    Yep, I'm super-confused about the whole thing, and Nvidia's not making it easy to tell (guess they'd rather not have people know that the more-expensive Quadros are just rebadged consumer cores).

    I'm also a little surprised that Lenovo would go with a top-of-the-line gfx card for the T-series, but hey that would be a pleasant surprise.

    Guess we'll be able to tell in time. Just gotta wait for it to ship and people to run some diagnostics/benchmarks.
     
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    That's what I've been going on for the last few weeks as well.

    Problem is, I think if you look at the 8600M GS, it ALSO has up to 22.4GB/sec bandwidth. And the kicker is the 8600M GS is actually based on the 8400M GT, but overclocked. In fact, the 8600M GS is clocked significantly higher than the 8600M GT, and yet has lower texture fillrate and shader throughput.

    My gut feeling is that FX 570M is an 8600M GT, and the FX 1600M is an 8700M GT. But we'll see as soon as these things ship out :)
     
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