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    Current/New X220 IPS Screens--Any Better?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by BrendaEM, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    Hi

    Are the new X220 IPS screens better than the older ones, as far as ghosting is concerned, or is it more of the same?

    (Thank You)
     
  2. sniper_sung

    sniper_sung Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it's improved with the new FRU parts. However I haven't bothered to replace mine as I don't do heavy Photoshop-like stuff on it.
     
  3. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Not really sure how you expect it to be better when they're still from the same source.
     
  4. hotsauce

    hotsauce Notebook Evangelist

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    How do you tell which FRU you have? I need to send my brand new X220 tablet back because of a group of bright pixels and suction marks behind the glass.

    I'd hate to go from the newer screen (Nov 2011 manufacture date) to an older, refurbished screen...but it doesn't seem I have a choice...
     
  5. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Not to downplay others concerns, but I think the ghosting issue is way overblown. I think it's one of things if you go looking for it, you can find it, but in the six months I've had my X220i, I've never seen it.
     
  6. k2001

    k2001 Notebook Deity

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    It might only affect a selected number of the panel, while the new panel have a stricter quality control because of all the complain that people posted on the web.
     
  7. Rambler

    Rambler Notebook Consultant

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    My X220 was purchased two months ago in September and my screen is great.

    I was concerned myself after reading all of the stories relating to screen and general quality issues.

    I'm happy to report that I have no dead/bright pixels or bleeding at all.

    I'm very happy with my system particularly the IPS panel.
     
  8. erik

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    is that circular reasoning in action? :D

    the physical design was updated to mitigate image retention.   some panels still do it if pushed hard enough, requiring 30+ minutes of the same image.   other panels, like my current one, won't show image retention no matter how hard i try.

    fwiw, i've tested all three variations of this panel.   photo 1 / photo 2
     
  9. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    hum.... iMac 27 inch used IPS that had ghosting problems and they are eliminated in the second generation. LG is the manufacturer of these IPS LCD
     
  10. BrendaEM

    BrendaEM Notebook Consultant

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    Having built a desktop computer to do my heavy-lifting computing chores, I'm trying to choose between an x120e and an x220 for my light chores, as well as well trying to choose between the non-IPS and a non-IPS screen on the x220.

    Thank You: ZaZ, Snipper_Sung, sgogeta4, hotsauce, k2001, Rambler.

    I'm sorry Eric, but I disagree as the Windows taskbar usually shows during normal usage, and computer users do toggle between full-screen and non-full screen in applications while using MS Windows. Writers lament over paragraphs. Photoshop users toggle pallets on and off. People frequently use an application, and then switch them to check the email, or do instant messaging.

    Lead_Org, I don't quite understand how Apple is relevant as we were discussing Lenovo displays.
     
  11. mariol90

    mariol90 Notebook Consultant

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    it is relevant by showing that newer LCDs can be better than the old ones, as the OP was asking. even from the same manufacturer.
     
  12. Sally4

    Sally4 Notebook Geek

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    My X220 has one of the older IPS screens. I have never found any problem with ghosting or light bleed - and believe me I have looked hard for it.
     
  13. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    brian5 Notebook Evangelist

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    @Thors.Hammer

    I don't need to see anything negative about the X220 IPS screen right now -- I'm waiting for my X220 to arrive after trying to find an ultra light weight notebook, that does all I want it to do, for months.
     
  15. themouse

    themouse Notebook Consultant

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    It looks like the new panels are solid based on that thread.
     
  16. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    If you read the two links I provided about the IPS screen, they indicate the issue is resolved.
     
  17. themouse

    themouse Notebook Consultant

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    I'm so excited for my x220 tablet... if only they could ship the damn thing.
     
  18. brian5

    brian5 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey, I was just kidding. I DO NOT THINK THAT THERE IS ANY ISSUE. Otherwise, I wouldn't have ordered the X220 IPS after many weeks of research...
     
  19. Thors.Hammer

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    No problem. I am glad Lenovo squashed the problem fast.
     
  20. seiyafan

    seiyafan Notebook Evangelist

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    I received my X220 today, when I boot to windows I noticed some light leakage from the lower left corner of the screen, does it mean the current IPS screen still has problems?

    update: I just checked the screen in a full screen youtube video, I don't notice any light leakage anymore, so strange. But it is definitely present on the windows 7 boot logo screen.
     
  21. vēer

    vēer Notebook Deity

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    Perhaps its Win7 boot artwork?
     
  22. erik

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    since the boot process is at 100% brightness and the boot screen is completely black, this exacerbates the backlight effect.
     
  23. seiyafan

    seiyafan Notebook Evangelist

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    ic, as a update, i pinched the lower left corner of the LCD panel a bit and it seems the leaked light has reduced somewhat.