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    Crazy-bright/hot colors on W510 FHD screen

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Sheridan Thinkpad, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. Sheridan Thinkpad

    Sheridan Thinkpad Notebook Enthusiast

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    I posted about this on the W510 owner's thread but haven't seen much from other users on this issue. The reds on my non-multitouch FHD screen are practically radioactive. Greens look pretty funky too. I tried adjusting settings on the nVidia control panel but could not get the reds or greens to calm down at all.

    And just to be clear, I am sure this is not a case of me having to get used to a new screen. Five other people have looked at it and agree the colors are just way, way, way too hot.

    Is anyone else here having the same issue?
     
  2. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

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    others on the m6500 thread (dell) with the RGBLED FHD screens are having similar issues...much talk over there as to calibrating. Mighty wanna take a look....it's the massive thread :)
     
  3. not.sure

    not.sure Notebook Evangelist

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    IIRC, a guy with a W510 reported here that the crazy colors went away after he did something. Don't remember what it was and I'm too lazy to search. Installing windos or swapping disks or something like that.
     
  4. Durazing

    Durazing Notebook Geek

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    you didnt get the in palm rest color sensor/calibrator?
     
  5. Sheridan Thinkpad

    Sheridan Thinkpad Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the tip, will take a look.

    I figured since I'm not a professional photographer and don't need my prints to be 10000% accurate to what's on the screen that I'd skip on that option. Have owned seven laptops and never have had a problem like this.
     
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    ooxxoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Wide gamut screens are actually worse than normal monitors for us everyday users. The colors on normal applications get oversatured.

    It's even worse if you don't have it calibrated.
     
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    dansari Notebook Guru

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    I was the other way around. At times I am very enthusiastic about photography, but because I'm not a pro I opted for the HD+ display and paid a bit extra for the Pantone colour calibrator (the FHD without Multi-Touch option was there when I ordered). The HD+ display is fantastic compared to the CCFL-backlit ThinkPad displays.
     
  8. Sheridan Thinkpad

    Sheridan Thinkpad Notebook Enthusiast

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    I took the liberty of copying a reply from the owner's thread that popped up last night that addresses this topic.

    If accurate, this is a major, major bummer, and I wonder if all those who like me bought this screen for the higher resolution and thought wide gamut was just a buzzword for "more awesome" are going to be in for a very rude surprise when they get on the internet for the first time.

    There has got to be a way to address this problem with the drivers, no? Please let there be some sort of algorithm that desaturates the colors a little bit and turns the screen less radioactive.
     
  9. ZoinksS2k

    ZoinksS2k Notebook Virtuoso

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    Grab the ICC profiles from this post.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=382939&page=48

    I'd recommend reading most of it. The Dell folks have pretty much covered everything in only 485 posts :)

    If you find a good setup, might be nice to start a W510 FHD Color adjustment thread. If the Dell thread is any indication, this config question will get raised quite a bit once Lenovo starts high volume shipments (may this day come soon).

    Lastly, I'd recommend anybody getting the FHD to get the embedded color sensor. If not, there are aftermarket options:
    http://www.pantone.com/Pages/products/product.aspx?pid=562
     
  10. hahnebalboa

    hahnebalboa Notebook Enthusiast

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    If the internal FHD screen is calibrated does that also change the display of an external monitor connected to the computer? I am waiting for my W510 to arrive and I am starting to become concerned that I did not order the color calibrator. I normally use an external large screen monitor, except when I am traveling, so it is important that the external monitor be calibrated separately from the internal monitor.

    Is there a way to set the computer to use a different color profile when using the external monitor?
     
  11. mythos1453

    mythos1453 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm quite a noob at these stuff but I have the impression that when you calibrate a monitor, you calibrate the monitor itself not the PC/laptop

    .i.e. you tell it how to interpret and represent the signals sent by the PC.
     
  12. theZoid

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    that's some good info for me as that was the one I would order, i.e. the FD+....
     
  13. hahnebalboa

    hahnebalboa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone with a W510 confirm this? I don't know how the calibration is done, since I am still awaiting the computer. But I was afraid that the calibration was done through a Windows color profile, in which case it would affect the internal and external monitors. If the auto-calibration sensor only affects the internal monitor, that would be great!
     
  14. Walter K

    Walter K Notebook Consultant

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    Yes it works correctly with different displays. With aftermarket software for calibration you can change it on the fly... :)

    Best, Walter
     
  15. Walter K

    Walter K Notebook Consultant

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    ad Crazy-bright/hot colors on W510 FHD screen:

    If accurate calibration is possible with W510 display you should use software that works with color management...

    e.g. Mozilla Firefox for surfing! :cool: As desktop pic you should use an Adobe-RGB pic - for not burning colors in your eyes...

    Best, Walter
     
  16. grandmacpubah

    grandmacpubah Notebook Enthusiast

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    as I said in my post, you should calibrate it, and that may reign it in a little if the default icc profile is way off. However, the principle I talked about is the same. The colors will never match.

    Even if using a color managed web browser like firefox, how many people upload icc profiles with their images? Photographers and honestly that's about it. There is no way to upload an icc profile when developing websites, i.e., through css files etc..

    Unfortunately it just is what it is. I would also caution anyone from trying to make the srgb color space look "right' on your wide gamut monitor. You are desaturating all you colors, and when you go to do any photo work, or design work, or anything involoving color, what you create on your screen is going to look completely different for the rest of the world.

    Color profiles and wide gamut monitors etc...is a really involved topic and you can find boat loads of info on it.

    With all that said, a wide gamut monitor is not for your everyday user, they will think something is wrong with the monitor. People who use wide gamut monitors, like me, use them for a specific purpose, and have learned to accept that colors in everyday browsing will look too saturated.